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[Oz22]

Ottawa outlaws remote car starters – to save the climate​

With the New Year kicking in, the City of Ottawa reminded the plebs that new idling times for all automobiles on private or public land were now in effect:

ICYMI – #OttCity has new idling times for vehicles on public and private property to help reduce greenhouse gas emissions and improve air quality.
Learn more about these updates to the Idling Control By-law: Vehicle idling times changing to improve air quality | City of Ottawa pic.twitter.com/oLu02UuSl2
— City of Ottawa (@ottawacity) January 2, 2025

Ottawa is the Canadian capital, where average temperatures range from -9C (15F) in December, -14C (6F) in January and Febuary, to -7C (19F) in March. The new time limits on pre-heating your car will allow one minute of idle time per hour for unoccupied vehicles.

That means using the remote starter to melt off the ice and warm the car up before piling into it for the morning commute is now verboten. It’ll also mean you’ll have to get out there in the -14C weather with your ice-scraper because there’s no way a minute of idle time is enough to defrost or de-ice your windshield.
zerohedge.com/news/2025-01-04/ottawa-outlaws-remote-car-starters-save-climate

 

[Bumblebee]

Ottawa outlaws remote car starters – to save the climate​

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With the New Year kicking in, the City of Ottawa reminded the plebs that new idling times for all automobiles on private or public land were now in effect:


Ottawa is the Canadian capital, where average temperatures range from -9C (15F) in December, -14C (6F) in January and Febuary, to -7C (19F) in March. The new time limits on pre-heating your car will allow one minute of idle time per hour for unoccupied vehicles.

That means using the remote starter to melt off the ice and warm the car up before piling into it for the morning commute is now verboten. It’ll also mean you’ll have to get out there in the -14C weather with your ice-scraper because there’s no way a minute of idle time is enough to defrost or de-ice your windshield.
zerohedge.com/news/2025-01-04/ottawa-outlaws-remote-car-starters-save-climate

I'd sure like to see them trying to enforce that.......they barely have enough cops to do this...

I'm about an hour and a half from Ottawa...

On that note, I went for a 45 minute walk this morning, when I started off, a neighbor was idling his SUV and when I came back it hadn't moved but was still idling.....

 

[Bumblebee]

@Oz22 here's the excerpt from the Ottawa news......it's slightly more complicated and generalized than what you posted....

Ottawa's new anti-idling rules begin on New Year's Day: Here's what you need to know

 

[Red05]

I'd sure like to see them trying to enforce that.......they barely have enough cops to do this...

I'm about an hour and a half from Ottawa...

On that note, I went for a 45 minute walk this morning, when I started off, a neighbor was idling his SUV and when I came back it hadn't moved but was still idling.....

There’s a woman at the gym with an Escalade that I’ve seen run for an hour easy. There’s no way to enforce such a law but it seems several people are guilty of meaningless gas usage.

 

[ottafish]

Here's a doozy -
There's a area in our state - local government that is mandating for residents that they need to get a permit just to do an oil change of a car/bike on their own property or inside their garage. Plus permits to store unregistered cars on their property - regardless if it's a project or a recent purchase awaiting inspection for registration.

And of course - big fines if you want ignore the permit system.. There's online petitions, local rate payers meetings. It's caused quite the upset and people are a little angry about it

 

[Oz22]

Money grab. They'll stake out the obvious hotspots and let the rest slip through the net.

 

[ottafish]

Money grab. They'll stake out the obvious hotspots and let the rest slip through the net.

The local Melb car community is a bit vocal in their expletives as you can imagine..

 

[Bumblebee]

Good 'ol government overreach........

We look back on history and see how governments controlled their citizens and are now seeing it in person......

I guess the day when EV go mainstream and the auto-drive system is perfected, individuals owning a vehicle won't be a thing so this will all be moot.

The future model I saw as predicted by Neil deGrasse Tyson sees all vehicles on hiways to be auto-driven and will interact with each other to avoid accidents and save power and if someone wants to own and drive an ICE, they will have to be in a closed circuit and not on public roads/hiways.

...........and this day is coming....when is the only question.

 

[TallTom]

Good 'ol government overreach........

We look back on history and see how governments controlled their citizens and are now seeing it in person......

I guess the day when EV go mainstream and the auto-drive system is perfected, individuals owning a vehicle won't be a thing so this will all be moot.

The future model I saw as predicted by Neil deGrasse Tyson sees all vehicles on hiways to be auto-driven and will interact with each other to avoid accidents and save power and if someone wants to own and drive an ICE, they will have to be in a closed circuit and not on public roads/hiways.

...........and this day is coming....when is the only question.

Here ya go Bee.

Reports: Justin Trudeau Is Expected to Resign This Week

A Globe and Mail reports suggests it'll happen by Wednesday

www.newser.com

 

[Bumblebee]

Here ya go Bee.

Reports: Justin Trudeau Is Expected to Resign This Week

A Globe and Mail reports suggests it'll happen by Wednesday

www.newser.com

One fear we all have is unless there is an election called and the liberal party is thrown out, who knows what we will get in his place...his entire caucus sucks.....and there's nobody in there who anyone would want for a prime minister....

 

[TallTom]

One fear we all have is unless there is an election called and the liberal party is thrown out, who knows what we will get in his place...his entire caucus sucks.....and there's nobody in there who anyone would want for a prime minister....

Looks like he announced it today.

So you guys don't get to have a choice in how he's replaced?

 

[Bumblebee]

Looks like he announced it today.

So you guys don't get to have a choice in how he's replaced?

No, it's the same as when Harris took the reigns from Biden.....a linear post.....

 

[Oz22]

I guess the day when EV go mainstream and the auto-drive system is perfected, individuals owning a vehicle won't be a thing so this will all be moot.

lol, that coming from a guy who lives in a freezing climate? You know how useless those things are up there, takes half the battery capacity just to keep the cabin and the battery warm. I'll tell you one thing though, speaking of government control, those EV are fully controllable and full of cameras and sensors so when the government decides it's time it'll tap into all that data and you won't be able to wave out the window without getting a fine. You might as well be driving with a traffic cop beside you with his ticket book open.

 

[Bumblebee]

lol, that coming from a guy who lives in a freezing climate? You know how useless those things are up there, takes half the battery capacity just to keep the cabin and the battery warm. I'll tell you one thing though, speaking of government control, those EV are fully controllable and full of cameras and sensors so when the government decides it's time it'll tap into all that data and you won't be able to wave out the window without getting a fine. You might as well be driving with a traffic cop beside you with his ticket book open.

Hell, I'm not saying I would like it or probably even be alive if and when it happens....

Lots of ICE vehicles are in the same boat, they have cameras, sensors and can be controlled....each day my wife's car gets a download from the "mothership" and a friend of mine has a BMW that he has to pay a monthly fee for heated seats....

Sadly this "utopia" of self driving cars is coming at some point.....

 

[TallTom]

No, it's the same as when Harris took the reigns from Biden.....a linear post.....

Umm well no that isn't how things are supposed to go. They skipped right over the Democratic process and just appointed her as their choice.

That's a topic for another thread.

So there isn't a vice Prime Minister to take his place in the event he quits? If not then there is no election? Someone else from his dysfunctional party gets appointed?

Man the U.S. is turning into Canada more every year!

 

[Bumblebee]

Umm well no that isn't how things are supposed to go. They skipped right over the Democratic process and just appointed her as their choice.

That's a topic for another thread.

So there isn't a vice Prime Minister to take his place in the event he quits? If not then there is no election? Someone else from his dysfunctional party gets appointed?

Man the U.S. is turning into Canada more every year!

His deputy prime minister resigned before Christmas and her replacement hasn't been named....so......not sure who will replace him....

 

[TallTom]

His deputy prime minister resigned before Christmas and her replacement hasn't been named....so......not sure who will replace him....

Seems like it would be nice if the citizens of Canada had a say.

Silly thinking I know.

 

[Bumblebee]

Seems like it would be nice if the citizens of Canada had a say.

Silly thinking I know.

Same concept as to what happens in the US if the President were to resign......his vice would be sworn in.

 

[TallTom]

Same concept as to what happens in the US if the President were to resign......his vice would be sworn in.

Yes but yours resigned also. I guess our 3rd in line isn't voted on here either.

 

[OldBusaGuy]

Here's a doozy -
There's a area in our state - local government that is mandating for residents that they need to get a permit just to do an oil change of a car/bike on their own property or inside their garage. Plus permits to store unregistered cars on their property - regardless if it's a project or a recent purchase awaiting inspection for registration.

And of course - big fines if you want ignore the permit system.. There's online petitions, local rate payers meetings. It's caused quite the upset and people are a little angry about it

It's sad that laws like this need to exist, but there is a need for them. Take changing oil for example. What do most people do with the oil? They bring it to the local recycling place. What do some others do with it? Either pour it on the ground or flush it down the toilet or dump it in the public drains in the streets where it ends up in lakes and streams. That ruins it for the responsible people that recycle it properly.

Same goes for extra cars sitting around. I used to be against zoning laws when I was a young lad. But as I grew older and saw more of how the world works, I changed my mind about that. Say that you have a nice, well kept home in a nice neighborhood. Someone new moves in next door and starts a junk yard. They don't start with a hundred vehicles. They start with one, then two, and before you know it, you have a full blown junkyard.

And like a lot of laws, there is selective enforcement. We have that same law where I live and I have a parts car sitting in front of one of my garages for the last few years. I have almost all of the parts that I need off of it and it will be heading to the shredder soon, but nobody complains so it isn't a problem. The vehicle is also almost completely shielded from public sight with bushes and trees, so not a lot of people even know that it's there. But if some neighbor complained about it like happened to one of my brothers, the local government would have no choice but to do their jobs and enforce the ordinance.

If we all thought the same way, we probably wouldn't need many laws at all.