This will get me to jump ship QUICK!!!!!

[Guest]

This is honda were talking, it wont be how much it exceeds the others by.......
But the way it exceeds them.
Remember all the posts about the 1600V6 and I responded with the exact bike mentioned now. This one is reality!
Oh yeah, Im in line for the 1000 as well.

 

[OB_THE MOTORHEAD]

top speeds will be limited.so why would the worry about aerodynamics?

 

[OB_NumbNuts]

Mr Bear, whats AFC, NFC and NFL??????

Nuts

 

[Guest]

Makes you wonder then how Erion racing is kicking *** in the Formula Extreme class with there 929 if you can't get any hp out of it!! The beast has awoken and its ready to eat.

 

[OB_cbxchris]

Not defending honda but the last bike they made that was impressive was the 1979 cbx...they talk the talk but NEVER back it up. I`ve got several honda`s....I just never look thier way for performance. Fit,finish and dependabilty are what keeps them in bussiness....just my 2 cents

 

[OB_BarryW.]

RPM,
Since Kurtis Roberts also won a F-Extreme race this year on Erion's STOCK demo bike after lunching the engine in the race bike, I'd say their success is due a lot more to the rider than the bike.

 

[OB_daddy long stroke]

remember, the R1 had been out since 98 when honda released their 929 with an awesome whole 122 rwhp! its slower top end, slower around the track, slower quarter mile and has less h.p. than suzuki's new 750, or the R1....and its ugly. you can be sure that the new gsxr 1000 will have at least 140 rwhp, and weigh under 400 lbs. if honda does get the most powerful bike title, for some odd reason, it will be very short lived. probably one model year.

 

[OB_THE MOTORHEAD]

well the busas claimed dry weight is 476!!!and the 12 is like 468 or so.so it looks as though it would be a typical hona just = the competition again.like the big talk the did on the 929 crushing everyone.honda typically over complicates the things they do.although they do have the deepest pockets in the motorcycle industry.they have the knowhow but do they have the balls to whip but?no!!

 

[OB_Ruff Ryder]

I have not owned a Honda since my 1973 Trail 70,mark my word,Honda will not topple the Hayabusa or the ZX-12R,its not their nature.

 

[OB_fshaia]

What the Honda will probably do will be reliable, No cranks going through the motor,
No cut out, no cam chain tensioner problems,
I am a Suzuki man but I am a little pissed at Suzuki right now, they cant seem to make a decent tensioner, and why the hell didnt they put the fuel pump inside the tank ? I guess when you push the limits of performance you must accept the problems. I still love my Busa though

 

[Guest]

The 929 did exactly what it intended to do. Its way more refined than the R1 and is able to post better lap times with more riders of different skill levels because of its ease of operation. The only thing it gives up to the R1 is torque, its handling and brakes are superior and its lighter. In the serious twisties or on the track the 929 gets the nod over the R1. Every time.
This 1300XX will do what its intended to do as well. Not only in the numbers game, but ease of operation, technology, build quality and refinement. It might only be a small step in times and speeds, but it'll be a big leap in technology and refinement over the other 2.

 

[OB_Mr Bear]

I totally agree with Chris. I was thinking back to the last time Honda really went out on a limb and built a sport bike to blow everyone away. It was the 1979 CBX, and it flopped in the showroom. Honda definitely has lots of bean counters, and they keep the R & D guys and the racing guys on a short financial leash. If it won't turn a profit, Honda won't build it.

 

[OB_daddy long stroke]

I DONT THINK HONDA "PLANNED" ON BEING out performed, or outclassed by a 750. last mag i looked at had the r1 faster around a track (by a slight margin)than the 929, and had the srad 750 faster than both of them.. the r1 with slight mods can make 145 rwhp. i think youll be lucky to see 130 with a 929...and its ugly.

 

[OB_Mr Bear]

NumbNuts, NFL, AFC, and NFC are terms which apply to American professional football, gridiron. The AFC and NFC are the two conferences, two halves of the league. I was drawing an analogy between the performances of the two conferences, and two large rival companies, like Suzuki and Kawasaki. In the two conferences of the football league, there is often an imbalance in talent among the players. One half of the league is clearly stronger than the other half. The situation holds for several years before it reverses itself.

I think something similar occurs among the large motorcycle manufacturers, Kawasaki and
Suzuki in particular. It seems like the balance of power has shifted in favor of Suzuki in recent years. They may have the best engineering talent, which is allowing them to win in the competition for sales. I don't know if the analogy is apt, but it seems similar to me. The pool of top talent shifts over time, in favor of one organization or the other.