Who Obama really is...
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Again, what conspiracy and who was part of it? Please explain (your) theory.
I said that type of situation is where conspiracy theories come from.
@Bumblebee explained it well, and I agreed.
What else do I need to explain?
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How do you know with absolute certainty that certain entities working inside our government with black op budgets for the said entities personal use are not in play here? What part of National Security needs protection in a situation like this? Sometimes the truth needs to come out regardless of who will be found negligent in the end when the investigation has defined the events details.
I think one common mistake when people consider these kind of events is that they think whomever is behind these acts of mayhem, by ordering them, think these people are normal people. By ordering this mayhem , I mean, who is ordering the stand down? is it the person who is portrayed as the person in charge or is it somebody above them? How do we know the designated person in charge isn't under the threat of death to himself and his family?
Yes Bee, some unknown details would have made the stoppage of the senseless killing risky for law enforcement to attempt. Does that mean the oath given by active police on duty in that situation doesn't apply when shots are being fired and people are dying inside a building and not in view?
The attack on gun ownership has been relentless for decades in this country... since it still hasn't stripped Americans from owning guns completely then what are the odds that certain factions in the anti gun lobby isn't willing to go to more extreme and illegal means in attempting to accomplish the objective of removing guns from law abiding citizens?
What kind of affects does taking guns away from citizens have on a governments discretionary behaviors when it comes to human rights? What does history show us?
....are you in a basement right now....???
I certainly hope so.....
I really don't know what world you live in but I'm sure glad I don't live there...
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Our history shows us plenty of documented evidence that shows what happens when people think they can get away with something. To think otherwise is foolish.
I don't have a basement... 99% of homes in California are slab homes... nobody wants to deal with shifting ground movement out here... especially builders where the class action lawsuit industry for defective homes already has a solid presence in Socal.
If anyone needs tinfoil hats, PM me...I have extras!
lmao!
lmao!
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Any thoughts on Elenin fellow science geeks or tinfoilers. | Random Thoughts
Just curious why Elenin isn't news. It's a tough tangle of internet crap mixed with sparse scientific data from reliable sources. What little reliable data I have gathered, I'm compelled to the thought that something isn't right. Too many coincidences that are troubling. Orbital track...
Some of these people should be wearing them outside in a thunderstorm...maybe a lightning bolt will rattle a little sense into them....View attachment 1652394Any thoughts on Elenin fellow science geeks or tinfoilers. | Random Thoughts
Just curious why Elenin isn't news. It's a tough tangle of internet crap mixed with sparse scientific data from reliable sources. What little reliable data I have gathered, I'm compelled to the thought that something isn't right. Too many coincidences that are troubling. Orbital track...www.hayabusa.org
There's this in all things....but to dwell on it and live in a world where it dominates ones entire life isn't healthy....
We have countless threads and posts on the election which occurred years ago yet people are still wrapped around the axle about it. I will say Trump was very effective in garnering followers in his quest to upset the American democracy...these followers are still trying their best to upset the process.
I shudder to think of what will happen during the up-coming election.....
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The reasons for dwelling on it are life changing and life altering for millions of Americans as the left attempts to derail the bedrock documents this country was set upon at the start over 240 years ago.
Exhibit A
Consider the State of the Union speech president Trump gave where he emphasized that America will never become a socialist nation. What did Nancy Pelosi do? She tore up his speech as a way to put on a political show for all to see that she opposed that message and many other points contained in that speech.
Much progress has been made to subvert our most basic freedoms. The 4th Amendment privacy protection was revealed in 2013 when Snowden showed us the NSA and others were complicit in abusing Americans right to privacy.
The 2nd Amendment has been under attack for decades. No need to explain that.
The 1st Amendment is also under attack and the most obvious act of it just came and went when the leftist got shut down in their quest to form an agency to stop disinformation from making it into the court of public opinion across this nation. What was it called? The Ministry of Disinformation? Right out of the Nazi playbook... not that it is really nessasary... the MSM is already tucked away nicely inside the leftist arm of the dimtard party.
Its all coming to a point where we either preserve our founding documents and principles... or we get bent over and let the totalitarian oligarchy run roughshod over the citizens that want nothing to do with it.
Its all a crap show of divide and conquer with heavy emphasis on problem, reaction, solution situations playing out and getting mixed results. The amount of shock and awe we are witnessing is continuing to push the leftist agenda front and center one way or another.
So Bee... should we give up our guns? Should we simply shut up and not have our voices heard? Should we give up all privacy and let our lives become an open book to any and all that want to probe into our private lives?
Why would anybody want to steal an election?
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Or how about we have a thread on the topic rather than trying to make it a topic of every thread you enter?
Pelosi tore up the SOTU she had. And Obama was verbally called a liar during his SOTU address.
So who is the better example of disrespect?
Look Im sorry you think being left means socialism. Because it's just like using their view of the right as all Republicans are racist.
I have many liberal friends who have no desire to become Socialist. To paint with these broad brush strokes is part of the problem we have. And you are displaying this problem.
It's a bad look on you.
I am not a liberal. I think as a party it has largely failed our nation with it's policies. But it's becoming hard to tell the difference between the 2 parties nowadays.
We are becoming a joke to the world now.
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Do we know who called Obama a liar? I agree people say stupid things at poorly timed moments. If I were sitting next to the person that said that to Obama I would tell him to shut up.
I have to ask you... Is Obama the same guy that said you can keep your doctor and your medical insurance plan? Sometimes people can't help themselves so they just blurt out the word liar.
All roads lead to Rome... and if Rome is burning it becomes a pretty hot topic. I would say Rome is on fire right now... and based on the sentiment of your response to mine it appears you thinks its on fire too.
So... in the final analysis... we already are a socialist nation to a large degree. The difference is the Feds still haven't taken over the bigger part of business in America... however... the Feds do have alignment with major many corporations due to the subsidized level of corporate welfare, crony capitalism and all the other benefits that come from being buddies with bureaucrats, lobbyist and politicians. AKA... the good ole boys club... ( of Rome! ). lol !
The reason we have become a joke in the world is due to corrupt leadership... we have rotted from the inside out. Staging phony wars on false pretenses is a good way to set a country on a destructive course for everyone involved... it seems the leadership of this country is usually appeasing a destructive force that has no conscious, morals, or ethics. Inscrutable governments is the cause for over 100 million of mostly innocent deaths in the last 120 years. The reason its inscrutable to the average citizen is due to the level of propaganda that mask the truth until its too late to change it. Ukraine is the latest example.
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Being a leftist is now in the category of extremist in my humble opinion... and toxic to the rights, freedoms and liberties detailed in the US Constitution.
The reason is simple as to why I focus on the topics of the day. It's due to the pivotal status of our country as it teeters between tyranny or liberty.
If the country is lost to some communist style of governance... wouldn't you want the issues identified before its too late to do something about it?
Why gripe about somebody pointing to the source of this countries woes? Is it not worth discussing before you can no longer legally discuss it?
Is it bad to be pro freedom and calling out the perps from over reaching and irresponsible governance?
Have I met the proper level of political correctness in using the words I have chosen to express myself so far?
I have no problem pointing out what doesn't work when it comes to the leadership we have right now.
Does that make me look bad?
Here is one of the most powerful story tellers I have ever had the pleasure of hearing speak. Towards the end he mentions the words of an Air Force General used to explain the a Soviet fighter pilot. ( Viktor Belenko ) that defected to the US back in the 80s. Its about the power a country can garner when its people are free to do the activities that make a country great.
By the very definition an extremist is an idealistic view of either far right or far left...whether that view is religion or political alignment.
There are no true communisms operating on this planet, we use that term far too often in the wrong context....
Power corrupts and if there are no checks and balances in place to control that power, it gets out of hand...we see this all the time in socialist and totalitarian regimes where one person has more power than they are able to wield. Large company CEOs have a tendency to gravitate towards this ideology and only the board of directors keep them in check.
There are no true communisms operating on this planet, we use that term far too often in the wrong context....
Power corrupts and if there are no checks and balances in place to control that power, it gets out of hand...we see this all the time in socialist and totalitarian regimes where one person has more power than they are able to wield. Large company CEOs have a tendency to gravitate towards this ideology and only the board of directors keep them in check.
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You just summed up the Trump years.
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No doubt about that... as Obama spied on the Trump Campaign and was supported by the FBI, CIA, DOJ and the pathetic minions they employed like Fusion GPS, Mueller, Christopher Steele and the MSM as well as others all conspired to attack president Trump for years. The Jan 6th committee ( a mock trial ) is another example of a wrecking crew ( 6 democrats and 2 Rinos ) all picked by Pelosi to paint with broad strokes the image of the former president. They are failing miserably and delaying broadcast sessions because the ratings are in the tank for the crap show they are producing. Just like the 2 failed impeachment proceedings and the Russia investigation... a big fat ZERO with a couple exceptions like the one where CNN filmed the arrest of Roger Stone so the democrats could get a photo op. What was Roger charged with? Was it that somebody got their feelings hurt?
It was Pelosi's responsibility as speaker of the house to make sure the US Capitol is protected and Pelosi knew that a large crowd would be in DC around the date of January 6th. It was no secret that large crowds were expected... so... does the January 6th Committee question Pelosi during these meetings about what was in her power to do prior to Jan 6th? No... we aren't going to look at how this event could have been controlled... that isn't how the left rolls.
The word Mc Carthyism comes to mind...
McCarthyism - Wikipedia
Regardless of popular belief....Trump wasn't exactly a choir boy who was shy and innocent before entering the fray....he has shown his true colors time and time again and they are not cheery, happy colors either.No doubt about that... as Obama spied on the Trump Campaign and was supported by the FBI, CIA, DOJ and the pathetic minions they employed like Fusion GPS, Mueller, Christopher Steele and the MSM as well as others all conspired to attack president Trump for years. The Jan 6th committee ( a mock trial ) is another example of a wrecking crew ( 6 democrats and 2 Rinos ) all picked by Pelosi to paint with broad strokes the image of the former president. They are failing miserably and delaying broadcast sessions because the ratings are in the tank for the crap show they are producing. Just like the 2 failed impeachment proceedings and the Russia investigation... a big fat ZERO with a couple exceptions like the one where CNN filmed the arrest of Roger Stone so the democrats could get a photo op. What was Roger charged with? Was it that somebody got their feelings hurt?
It was Pelosi's responsibility as speaker of the house to make sure the US Capitol is protected and Pelosi knew that a large crowd would be in DC around the date of January 6th. It was no secret that large crowds were expected... so... does the January 6th Committee question Pelosi during these meetings about what was in her power to do prior to Jan 6th? No... we aren't going to look at how this event could have been controlled... that isn't how the left rolls.
The word Mc Carthyism comes to mind...
McCarthyism - Wikipedia
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All the good he might have done is all forgotten and he will always be remembered the world over as a failed US president...the US definitely deserves better than this legacy. Trump made it all about himself and how his butt was hurt when he lost something his ego just wouldn't allow.
Hard to say what is in his future....justice is supposed to be swift...in this case it seems to be taking forever to sort out.
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So how does your Trump loving logic explain Trump's own team explaining to him that what he wished to do was illegal? Or explain how they stated he had become disconnected from Reality? Or explain that this is how our Constitution works in an election process? Or explain how the Georgia Republican leader told Trump there is no way he could find any votes to overturn the results? All of these people work for the LTs? All of these people just stupid? All of these people just don't have the skills needed to expose a fraud being carried out by the LTs? Creative video editing?No doubt about that... as Obama spied on the Trump Campaign and was supported by the FBI, CIA, DOJ and the pathetic minions they employed like Fusion GPS, Mueller, Christopher Steele and the MSM as well as others all conspired to attack president Trump for years. The Jan 6th committee ( a mock trial ) is another example of a wrecking crew ( 6 democrats and 2 Rinos ) all picked by Pelosi to paint with broad strokes the image of the former president. They are failing miserably and delaying broadcast sessions because the ratings are in the tank for the crap show they are producing. Just like the 2 failed impeachment proceedings and the Russia investigation... a big fat ZERO with a couple exceptions like the one where CNN filmed the arrest of Roger Stone so the democrats could get a photo op. What was Roger charged with? Was it that somebody got their feelings hurt?
It was Pelosi's responsibility as speaker of the house to make sure the US Capitol is protected and Pelosi knew that a large crowd would be in DC around the date of January 6th. It was no secret that large crowds were expected... so... does the January 6th Committee question Pelosi during these meetings about what was in her power to do prior to Jan 6th? No... we aren't going to look at how this event could have been controlled... that isn't how the left rolls.
The word Mc Carthyism comes to mind...
McCarthyism - Wikipedia
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Its not about Trump for me... its about truth and justice. When you have a populist president the democrats with leftist ideology go nuts and attack whomever the populist person is. These people on the left want complete political control and are willing to do anything they can if they think they can get away with it.
You are like so many others and underestimate the intelligence of people whom are familiar with the tactics of the left.
Margot Cleveland at The Federalist
Jan. 6 Committee Ignores Clear Evidence Of Broken Election Laws
QUOTE: In its attempt to blame former President Donald Trump for the crimes committed on January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol, House Democrats have spent the week focused on Trump's unsupported claims of widespread election fraud. The Jan. 6 select committee and the legacy media outlets promoting the show trial completely ignore, however, the verifiable evidence of systemic violations of election law, illegal voting, and the constitutionally deficient execution of the November 2020 election—including issues Trump challenged following the election.
Georgia provides a peach of an example. President Biden won Georgia and the state's 16 electoral votes by a margin of 11,779 individual votes, but before the state certified the results of the November 2020 election, Trump challenged the outcome, raising several issues both in and out of court. Trump hammered accusations of fraud in Fulton County, claiming counterfeit ballots secreted in suitcases
( we saw this on video after the polls were said to have been closed and several people in those offices started pulling out boxes from under draped tables with ballots in them and ran those ballots through the voting machines over and over). I bet you didn't see that video.
and vote-flipping by Dominion Voting Systems gave Biden the victory. But Trump also contested the Georgia results based on evidence indicating that tens of thousands of illegal votes were improperly counted.
While Trump's legal team argued illegal votes in some 30-plus categories were improperly included in the final election tally, violations of Section 21-2-218 of the Georgia election code alone closed the gap between the two presidential candidates. That section provides that state "residents must vote in the county in which they reside, unless they changed their residence within 30 days of the election" and "outside of the 30-day grace period, if people vote in a county in which they no longer reside, 'their vote in that county would be illegal.'"
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