WTH is up with our government?

The Goverment holds press conferences daily on all sorts of things.
The Media is there, and they report what they are told.
They then relay this information to the public(cleverly edited if it may help ratings).
The public then discusses it.
Makes it easy to change the coarse of a nation in a generation or two.
A few of us will always see through the holes in the fence.
The rest have fallen to misdirection, ignorance, and now most commonly, outright stupidity.
 
What do you think happens if Hilary wins?
We continue down to where we've been headed...out.
What do you think happens if Trump wins, IF?
I'de imagine the nationwide rioting after the ballots were confirmed would make it quite conveniant, I mean nesaccery, for king Obama to impose some state of martial law. Not to mention a dozen other scenarios not even related to the election.
That can go for as long as it's convenient, for the powers that be to align the new government exactly as they want.
Which will be more of our rights gone at best.
Pay attention, things are getting interesting, unfortunately it doesn't look good.
 
Most are asleep and refuse to open their eyes! It would mean having to meet reality face to face. They are not capable! They are afraid to come from their cocoon for fear of seeing what they have created. Those same folks will expect us to defend them when it's time. Well I have news for ya, make it easy and wear a red hat while tooling around in your Prius.
 
Most are asleep and refuse to open their eyes!

It would mean having to meet reality face to face.

They are not capable!

They are afraid to come from their cocoon for fear of seeing what they have created.

Those same folks will expect us to defend them when it's time.

Well I have news for ya,
make it easy and wear a red hat while tooling around in your Prius.

 
Interesting every post in this thread is by a registered member, moderator or donating member. Interesting.

Well, (Pondering) what other group would you expect to see posting? Every member that signs up on the site is a "Registered Member" and then the statuses change after that. You will never see
"guest" posting. Is there something specific that I am missing on this one Arch?
 
Well, (Pondering) what other group would you expect to see posting? Every member that signs up on the site is a "Registered Member" and then the statuses change after that. You will never see
"guest" posting. Is there something specific that I am missing on this one Arch?
Seems logical to me!
 
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  • I didnt realize everyone else is "registered" My point is if I cared about this site I wouldn't support this sort of stuff. Or maybe its about getting hit rates or something.
 
And by "sort of stuff" you mean concerned Americans? I'm not sure I'm tracking with your statement.
 
13013 don't feed them! They will starve without food! Knowing is power, lies, deception, greed, half truths and the like cannot sustain their way!
 
What do you think happens if Hilary wins?
We continue down to where we've been headed...out.
What do you think happens if Trump wins, IF?
I'de imagine the nationwide rioting after the ballots were confirmed would make it quite conveniant, I mean nesaccery, for king Obama to impose some state of martial law. Not to mention a dozen other scenarios not even related to the election.
That can go for as long as it's convenient, for the powers that be to align the new government exactly as they want.
Which will be more of our rights gone at best.
Pay attention, things are getting interesting, unfortunately it doesn't look good.

I certainly hope not, but frankly, If that's gonna happen, lets freakin' get on with it now, and expose it for what it is while we still have a chance. I'd rather my generation have to fight this fight than my child's. Declaring martial law would be his final act, and I don't think it will come to that. It is time, however, to righten the sinking ship.
 
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I certainly hope not, but frankly, If that's gonna happen, lets freakin' get on with it now, and expose it for what it is while we still have a chance. I'd rather my generation have to fight this fight than my child's. Declaring martial law would be his final act, and I don't think it will come to that. It is time, however, to righten the sinking ship.

We may not have to wait until after the election.
I don't see how we can righten the sinking ship.
And how much more needs exposed?
Hillary has been caught red handed, and the trail would most likely bring alot more down with her.
With the evidence the public has, the government simply wanted the guys at Benghazi dead, someone please explain otherwise.
Obama and Hillary did what? Allow it!
Hillary knowingly used her personal Blackberry in many foreign countries. Exposing all that top secret info to the world. That same info the goverment still refuses to release. Seems convinient. You don't think she could have been persuaded to turn her head, in exchange for money and position do you?
And Trump's advisor is in trouble for saying she should face a firing squad for treason?! She should!
She scoffs at all of it, and walks free.
There are no consequences for our officials.
Our options are, revolt, take our torches and pitchforks to DC and clean house, or,....get used to it.
If Hillary wins, nothing good happens. If Trump wins, the country implodes.
Pick your poison.
 
I don't see how we can righten the sinking ship.
She scoffs at all of it, and walks free.
There are no consequences for our officials.
Our options are, revolt, take our torches and pitchforks to DC and clean house, or,....get used to it.
If Hillary wins, nothing good happens. If Trump wins, the country implodes.

Let me just interject my personal opinion here... Nothing more than my opinion and the vantage point that I look from if you guys will indulge me for a sec. This opinion may not be a popular one, many scoff and will laugh it away, some will turn away and yet some will relate to it.

CAPTAINS OPINION (Belief & Faith) from here on down.......
Not picking on you at all sixpack, you know that I respect you but I am going to use your post as an example.

  • There is an assumption that "we" the people built this country, that "we" the people need to right the sinking ship.
  • There are no consequences
  • Our only options are, Revolt, Old school takeover or settle with what we have.
  • Hillary = bad / Trump = bad

Here is my take..... neither of these candidates are in charge, not Hillary, not Trump or Russia's Putin, not ISIS, not a country or any other person on this planet. The creator of this Universe is in charge, he controls all things, knows all things, and sees all things. As a Christian I have to use the bible as the infallable word of the Almighty. This is what faith is really about.

A few character traits of God:

Omniscience means that God is all-knowing or that He has unlimited knowledge. His infinite knowledge is what qualifies Him as sovereign ruler and judge over all things. Not only does God know everything that will happen, but He also knows all things that could have possibly happened. Nothing takes God by surprise, and no one can hide sin from Him. There are many verses in the Bible where God reveals this aspect of His nature. One such verse is 1 John 3:20: “...God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.”

Omnipotence means that God is all-powerful or that He has unlimited power. Having all power is significant because it establishes God’s ability to carry out His sovereign will. Because God is omnipotent and has infinite power, nothing can stop His decreed will from happening, and nothing can thwart or stop His divine purposes from being fulfilled. There are many verses in the Bible where God reveals this aspect of His nature. One such verse is Psalm 115:3: “But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases.” Or when answering His disciples' question “Then who can be saved?” (Matthew 19:25), Jesus says, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:26).

Omnipresence means that God is always present. There is no place that you could go to escape God’s presence. God is not limited by time or space. He is present at every point of time and space. God’s infinite presence is significant because it establishes that God is eternal. God has always existed and will always exist. Before time began, God was. Before the world or even matter itself was created, God was. He has no beginning or end, and there was never a time He did not exist, nor will there be a time when He ceases to exist. Again, many verses in the Bible reveal this aspect of God’s nature to us, and one of them is Psalm 139:7-10: “Where can I go from Thy Spirit? Or where can I flee from Thy presence? If I ascend to heaven, Thou art there; If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, Thou art there. If I take the wings of the dawn, If I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, Even there Thy hand will lead me, And Thy right hand will lay hold of me.”

I stand firm and know that nothing escapes Gods plans, while he gives us free will he is in control, nothing takes him by suprise. There has been a long standing argument on our forefathers and if this country was founded on God and his word. You don't have to go very far in research to see the documents that many of our forefathers identified as Christians and let their Faith drive the decisions they made. I am not going to argue the past but I will tell you what my plan for the present and future is.

All things were created to bring Glory to God the Father, God is Holy, Perfect and Loves us. He desires to have a relationship with us but we (individually and as a country) have turned away. I have watched arguments on CNN, newspapers, FOX news other media outlets and even on this site and seen first hand close friends argue and never change anyone's mind. I personally believe what we have is a heart problem across our country. We don't value life collectively, look at murders, violent crimes against others and just vicious attacks that we have not seen in this country in the past. I came to a point where I had to stop the rhetoric and realize that this problem is so far beyond anything that I can do that I needed to go back to what I know to be true... God is in control, the best thing I can do for our country is to pray for intercession, to lift the name of Jesus high, be a light reflecting Christ when the world gets darker each day. I will continue to get up early and read my bible, continue to love my neighbor and I am going to step that up and fight this battle in our country with love and prayer and put it back into the hands of God the Father.

My goal isn't to offend anyone but to simply tell you my opinion and what I believe.

Philippians 4:6
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.

2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

James 1:22-25 ESV
But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a mirror. For he looks at himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing.
 
Jesus didn't come to take sides...He came to take over! And one day (very soon I believe) we will all bow and praise His Holy name. But until that day, we are to continually die to ourselves and reach a lost and hurting world for His kingdom.
 
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