Is Tolerance Overrated?

[Bumblebee]

Define miracle.

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I saw lots of examples...mostly in combat...people who shouldn't have been alive lived through nothing else but a miracle...

i did see one involving a guy I knew on his FZR1000....he lost it and went over an embankment....the entire lower area was covered in large trees except for one spot where there was just enough space for his bike to go through....but the odds of hitting that one spot was incredibly low...he did though and didn't even get a scratch and he didn't even drop the bike....I would have liked to have a miracle to get the thing back up the embankment though....

 

[Zerks]

I’m not sure what “leftist religion” Mr Smith is referring to or why a deity is deemed necessary. I’m not even sure what his definition of a leftist is. The generalization of people by their political allegiance is a cancer all over the world especially here.
Reasonable bigot? I have no words.

Well... I can't speak Mr Smith, however, I can assure you George Soros and his ilk demonstrate what the leftist do. These people want to control most aspects of your life like self defense. The latest Daniel Perry case will show you how defending yourself or others is outrageous behavior. By the way, it wasn't a choke hold... the hold squeezed an artery in his neck like a rear naked choke and he passed out. Then Perry tried to revive him.

The point is the left is on its way to making self defense a criminal act. Its coming because in the world of leftist right is wrong.

 

[Bumblebee]

Well... I can't speak Mr Smith, however, I can assure you George Soros and his ilk demonstrate what the leftist do. These people want to control most aspects of your life like self defense. The latest Daniel Perry case will show you how defending yourself or others is outrageous behavior. By the way, it wasn't a choke hold... the hold squeezed an artery in his neck like a rear naked choke and he passed out. Then Perry tried to revive him.

The point is the left is on its way to making self defense a criminal act. Its coming because in the world of leftist right is wrong.

The hold he had the person in was a typical CQC hold trained to Marines and other branches....it is designed to incapacitate but held too long kills...and is taught as such....I was taught this as well...

I'd say he panicked and held the hold too long...getting taught how to do it is much different than actually doing it.

 

[Red05]

Well... I can't speak Mr Smith, however, I can assure you George Soros and his ilk demonstrate what the leftist do. These people want to control most aspects of your life like self defense. The latest Daniel Perry case will show you how defending yourself or others is outrageous behavior. By the way, it wasn't a choke hold... the hold squeezed an artery in his neck like a rear naked choke and he passed out. Then Perry tried to revive him.

The point is the left is on its way to making self defense a criminal act. Its coming because in the world of leftist right is wrong.

A reasonable response but why did you post that long diatribe by Smith? It doesn’t add to the conversation; basically a long winded rant against anything he doesn’t believe in. I agree with you about the Daniel Perry case. I don’t think he wanted to hurt him, but it has nothing to do with Smith. Did you watch the video in the link? Why does that club call itself The Satan Club when they don’t worship or even believe in satan? I understand Atheism but that name seems like they’re purposefully trying to antagonize rather than create conversation, sort of like you posting that Smith nonsense.

 

[Zerks]

I saw lots of examples...mostly in combat...people who shouldn't have been alive lived through nothing else but a miracle...

i did see one involving a guy I knew on his FZR1000....he lost it and went over an embankment....the entire lower area was covered in large trees except for one spot where there was just enough space for his bike to go through....but the odds of hitting that one spot was incredibly low...he did though and didn't even get a scratch and he didn't even drop the bike....I would have liked to have a miracle to get the thing back up the embankment though....

Off subject for a moment... This story reminds me of what happened on Angeles Crest road back in the 90s when I had a V65 Sabre and my buddy was riding his Gixxer 750.
I was leading and going along as a good clip into a right hander... probably doing about 50 to 60 mph and he was right behind me last time I looked. A brown truck was coming the other way and I heard rubber screeching on the road just after he passed me. When I straighten up and look behind me I don't see my buddy anywhere. It turns out he bailed out of that corner right in front of the truck so the rubber I heard was the truck going hard on the brakes. Luckily for my buddy Dave he had a huge wide area of hard panned dirt to find a way to slow down as it was sloped a bit downhill there. At the edge of the area was a berm about 8 ft high. Dave braked all the way to the berm and then rode up on it to almost the top where he was able to turn right and ride the berm back down. We both ended up walking up to that spot where he almost crested the berm. Had he gone over the top it would have been a horrible landing where trees and rocks littered a 30 to 40 degree slope. If it had happened serious injury would have resulted and a tow truck with a winch cable would have been the only way to recover that motorcycle.

That happened on the way to Vegas.

On the way home we took Angeles Crest Highway again.... this time he went off the road again and fell... broke the left clutch lever and bent the shifter lever but was able to make it home. That was the last time we went riding together.

 

[Zerks]

A reasonable response but why did you post that long diatribe by Smith? It doesn’t add to the conversation; basically a long winded rant against anything he doesn’t believe in. I agree with you about the Daniel Perry case. I don’t think he wanted to hurt him, but it has nothing to do with Smith. Did you watch the video in the link? Why does that club call itself The Satan Club when they don’t worship or even believe in satan? I understand Atheism but that name seems like they’re purposefully trying to antagonize rather than create conversation, sort of like you posting that Smith nonsense.

I posted it because I share some of the same opinions as he does. When people are mimicking sexual acts to young impressionable kids in school it is not teaching them anything that improves their lives. It doesn't prepare them in the ways that prepare them for the world where they need to bring value to the economic system that drives the world we live in now.

Satan Club? Is that something we should value? I would guess it's about shock value to get peoples attention.

 

[busabobh]

Our society as a whole is in decline, over reaction is the norm. Common sense is uncommon. I’m old and like the way things and people use to be. My generation is responsible for much of what’s wrong with the world today, and there’s no going back. I’m sorry .