You have got to be kiddin me...

It should have a R labeled on the white part of the plug, indicating its a resistor type plug.  I was told this by the parts person when I stressed that I need the plug to be a R type NGK plug.
Hmm....I'll take a look at 'em. Thanks, playa!

If by chance them punk-azz idiots sold me ones that aren't a resistor type, what repurcussions am I lookin at?
 
It should have a R labeled on the white part of the plug, indicating its a resistor type plug.  I was told this by the parts person when I stressed that I need the plug to be a R type NGK plug.
Hmm....I'll take a look at 'em. Thanks, playa!

If by chance them punk-azz idiots sold me ones that aren't a resistor type, what repurcussions am I lookin at?
Bikey, wont startie ?
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It should have a R labeled on the white part of the plug, indicating its a resistor type plug.  I was told this by the parts person when I stressed that I need the plug to be a R type NGK plug.
Hmm....I'll take a look at 'em. Thanks, playa!

If by chance them punk-azz idiots sold me ones that aren't a resistor type, what repurcussions am I lookin at?
Bikey, wont startie ?  
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ok, ok...I'm an idiot, playa.
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Times are hard, ya know? Hehe...
 
Check all over for a vacum leaks. That's what it sounds like.

Do you have the plug wires on in the right order?

On the throttle bodies, are they seated with no gaps between them and the head? Make sure nothing is pinched.

Do the plugs look good?

Did you test the compression? If so, is all the cylinder PSI almost even?

Are all your lines and connectors hooked up in the right order?
How about the vacumm lines on the throttlebodies under the airbox? The ports that you hook a vacumm gauge up to, to sync the throttle blades. Make sure they're plugged or lined the way they need to be. Jinkster's "How to sync your throttle blades" how-to has a great description and pics on how these lines are supposed to run.

Maybe they're is still some gunk in the fuel lines. Remove it, use some carb cleaner and a air blower to clean it out. A few pieces of dirt in there can mess with the fuel system.
Also, check the fuel delivery throughout the fuel pump.

Is any of your ECU, throttle bodies or wiring of different years?  An earlier ECU isn't friendly with any late model hardware. Make sure it's matched to the right year groups.

Was there ever any rags stuffed into the throttle bodies to keep dirt out of them that might of been sucked into the motor?(I've seen this first hand on a few cars)

I'd start with one area and work my way over everything that can interfere with the Busa's engine operation. Eliminate every possibility. Whatever is left over, no matter how remote or improbable has got to be the problem.


Pac, you'll beat this.
 
Also, make sure the 2 vent tubes at the rear of the tank are not clogged and that your tip over switch is in working order.
 
Check all over for a vacum leaks. That's what it sounds like.

Do you have the plug wires on in the right order?

On the throttle bodies, are they seated with no gaps between them and the head? Make sure nothing is pinched.

Do the plugs look good?

Did you test the compression? If so, is all the cylinder PSI almost even?

Are all your lines and connectors hooked up in the right order?
How about the vacumm lines on the throttlebodies under the airbox? The ports that you hook a vacumm gauge up to, to sync the throttle blades. Make sure they're plugged or lined the way they need to be. Jinkster's "How to sync your throttle blades" how-to has a great description and pics on how these lines are supposed to run.

Maybe they're is still some gunk in the fuel lines. Remove it, use some carb cleaner and a air blower to clean it out. A few pieces of dirt in there can mess with the fuel system.
Also, check the fuel delivery throughout the fuel pump.

Is any of your ECU, throttle bodies or wiring of different years?  An earlier ECU isn't friendly with any late model hardware. Make sure it's matched to the right year groups.

Was there ever any rags stuffed into the throttle bodies to keep dirt out of them that might of been sucked into the motor?(I've seen this first hand on a few cars)

I'd start with one area and work my way over everything that can interfere with the Busa's engine operation. Eliminate every possibility. Whatever is left over, no matter how remote or improbable has got to be the problem.


Pac, you'll beat this.
Whew...this is gonna be a good one. Dayum.

haven't checked for vac leaks...don't exactly know how. Good place to start, though.

Plug wires in right order.

Nothin pinched on the TB's...they look to be seated properly.

Plugs are new...just replaced. Guess I'll pull them out and look again.

Haven't checked for compression. How would I do that? I'm hoping I don't hafta tear into the engine. That's a whole lotta work.

Lines and connectors are hooked up in the right order, I believe. Vac lines under the TB's and airbox appear to be ok. I hope I don't hafta synch the TBs...that looked real complicated.

Don't think there's any gunk in the fuel lines...they seemed to be clear. I'll check 'em again, I guess. Sigh.

Fuel delivery throughout the pump should be fine. At least, I think so. I hear it suckin gas from the tank, so that's a good thing. Oh gawd...please tell me I don't hafta take it apart again and remove the all the insides.

ECU is from a 99, as is the wiring harness. All matchin there.

No rags inside the TB's. Did my best to make sure that nothin got into the TB's. I knwo that's really bad juju for the engine.

Sigh...starting over again. Yay. Damnit....


Thanks, man...I appreciate the encouragement. I'm so tired of all of this, though. Fudge...
 
i see you said you changed the filter and installed an external one....does that mean you didnt put another filter back inside the pump? does it not matter if there is a filter inside or not as long as there is one on the outside? also there are actually 3 filters in the pump....the other 2 are screen mesh filters. did you clean those off? one is located at the regulator, very tiny....the other is at the end of the pump housing where the fuel enters. also there are mesh filters on the fuel injectors. and also if you have a 99-00 tank, there is a mesh filter in there. so that would be a total of 8 filters to check. have fun
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i see you said you changed the filter and installed an external one....does that mean you didnt put another filter back inside the pump? does it not matter if there is a filter inside or not as long as there is one on the outside? also there are actually 3 filters in the pump....the other 2 are screen mesh filters. did you clean those off? one is located at the regulator, very tiny....the other is at the end of the pump housing where the fuel enters. also there are mesh filters on the fuel injectors. and also if you have a 99-00 tank, there is a mesh filter in there. so that would be a total of 8 filters to check. have fun
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Yup...the paper filter inside the pump has come out. Don't know about the filter on the inside and the outside...that could restrict flow. Possibly?

Mesh screens for the return line and the feeder line have been checked and cleaned.

Where is that mesh filter in the tank? Are you talkin about the filter that sits atop the petcock? If so, I have replaced the whole fuelcock as well.

I took a look at the injectors, I didn't see an screens. That's odd. I'm gonna take 'em off tonight to double-check the screens since I didn't see any the first time.

Hopefully I can figure out why she's not bein a good lil girl and running like a champ for daddy. I may end up purchasing another paper filter to stick into the pump whilst I sort out this external filter dilemma.
 
i would put the stock filter back in. and the filters for the injectors....when you take the injector out. the black plastic piece on top is the filter. it is hard as hell to pull out and even harder to push back in. here is a pic with it partially removed

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aaaah!!! I see now!


hey...how hard was it to take out? I'm takin I can't just muscle the thing out...looks like something would break...
 
yeah its a biaaatch and a half
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i used a very small flathead to pry it up a little, then i used my teeth to pull it out the rest of the way
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it didnt tear any doing it that way but putting them back in, i tore one a little. i used a small allen key about the same size of the hole to push it back in.....thats the part you have to be careful. those pieces are very rezilliant though.

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hmmm....I see. Dunno about using my teeth, though. I'd be afraid to lose one. SPecially my front teeth.
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Thanks, man...now I know where to look tonight! I'm hopin all that all my probs are bein caused by a clogged injector screen.
 
no problem, hope you figure it out. taking that pump out and apart is a pain, but i would put the oem filter back in....ive heard of ppl running without the injector screens but im not sure about using an external filter and not the pump filter.
 
Yah...me too. RSD's bike had an external filter set-up, no problems reported by him for the 50 clicks he had on it.

I guess I'l'l see what happens tonight. The last thing I want is to put that old filter back in and then have it clog up the injectors.
 
I am not sure this is relevant but I had the same problem with my WRX. I had a lot work done-bigger injectors/turbo/fuel pump and Iridium Plugs-and one day it wouldn't run properly, stalled, then wouldn't start. To make a long story short, the plugs were fouled-and they were brand new. It seems that the Iridium plugs fouled much quicker than the standard plugs. All I did was replace the plugs with the stockers and it started and ran fine. Might be something to think about-if you have the stock ones available-throw em in and give em a shot.
 
I am not sure this is relevant but I had the same problem with my WRX.  I had a lot work done-bigger injectors/turbo/fuel pump and Iridium Plugs-and one day it wouldn't run properly, stalled, then wouldn't start.  To make a long story short, the plugs were fouled-and they were brand new.  It seems that the Iridium plugs fouled much quicker than the standard plugs.  All I did was replace the plugs with the stockers and it started and ran fine.  Might be something to think about-if you have the stock ones available-throw em in and give em a shot.
hmm...that is an idea. Just can't bear to think that the $40 I paid for these damn plugs went to waste so early. I'd be hella pissed.

I'll check the stealership today and see if they have the stock plugs available. Wouldn't hurt to try, I guess.
 
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