ZX12 is no threat (yet)

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Please do give us the URL! I find that very interesting because that would contradict the 208 mph, 9.30 quarter mile performance of the bike that was tested here in the U.S. Actually there were three U.S. test bikes, then one was totaled on a road course. Hmmmm....
 
This is some funny poop!!!
I for one could care less about the ZX12R,albeit I always like to see new big bore bikes,but the hype surrounding this one is getting OLD!
 
It IS tiring...all this discussion and, sometimes, bragging about a machine that does not yet exist.

When a ZX12 does finally appear beside me on the street or the track, I will consider it my personal responsibility to blow the good time thing into the weeds.

I hope that all reasonable and responsible Hayabusa owners will join me in this just and honorable cause.
 
9.3 quarter mile time??!!! Sorry - I'm going to need to see that URL/report as well. Seems that every new story that comes along the times get better and better when the storyteller suffers from green envy.
Even the far fetched "insider" reports I've seen produced by conventional sources haven't been that dillusional.
 
I have heard that they had a few zx-12's but each prototype was set up for different things. one top end,one handling,one quickness etc... I think they might be having a hard time squeezing it all into one package, One of the hayabusa prototypes also did over 200mph. but that was lessened by a complete package, you know you can't believe everything you hear. If you like at an old Cycle World article just a few months before the bus was released they had new information(according to their sources) of a new GSXR1500 well we know now that was the Hayabusa they were referring to. I am not trashing the Kawasaki but you shouldn't count your chickens before they hatch. The New Motorcycle Models will be at the show in September right? Right?
 
According to today's MotorCycleNews the ZX12 will remain science fiction for a few more months.
Not even it's parents will admit it's existence (let alone performance)
They're re-juggling the swingarm and the aerodynamics - so the article says.
With less than 180hp and less than 200mph, I don't think you Suzuki people have anything to fear for the rest of the year.

I don't get it: Has Kawasaki run out of steam?
 
If this rumour is true then it is quite sad. I was looking forward to a real top speed war between the Zuke and the Kwaka. Suzuki will be feeling safe and not feel the strain of having their balls in the vice, and therefore no need to up the Busa specs. Being a Kawasaki fan I am starting to wonder who in the f**k is in charge of what to build and when.
 
Oh no! the ZX-12 AGAIN!!! Will it be faster than my bike? un oh gonna have bad dreams now. Hmmm is my hair going grayer even faster worring about it? And, god forbid will performance anxiety rear its ugly head? ARRRRRGGGGHHHHH. ;)
 
The article says that the bike was ready for last year, but they were taken by surprise because of the Bus. They tried to boost it a bit so that it smoked Suzuki, but it still doesn't do much.
Not only does it lack horsepower, the aerodynamics are not up to scratch either, making it unstable at 180mph. I didn't get the idea that they exceeded 180. They still deny it's existence, so they're not very confindent or proud about it.

What the *hell* is wrong with the people who turbocharged the GPz750 and then de-tuned it for the public?
 
Now thats a rumor. Sounds like a fact. Looks like a war. Sure am glad i bought a Suzuki Hayabusa six months ago, no problems, still fast, now thats a fact-
"Hayabusa Rules the World"-another fact.

ducmanic
Los Angeles
Thanks JohnnyBoy for the reality check!
 
If I lead you to the source would you believe it? Didn't think so. You guys say you have heard enough about the ZX-12, but you ask for more. For a bike that is not being released, you certainly have many opinions about it. If it's not quicker and faster, it won't come out. If it is, it will. Anyone with any common sense could figure this one out. What sells most big bores is power and speed... if it can't up the ante, we won't see them until it does.

Maybe some of you guys should spend more of your time riding those beautiful, lightning quick and fast Busa's. This talk seems to be a big waste of time for most. But for sake of arguement, plenty of guys have 9.50's and 60's on stock Busa's... why couldn't a lighter, more powerful bike (assumed) run 9.30's?
 
Kevin - that sounds like a roundabout way of saying you can't produce a legitimate, verifiable source for the post that YOU made CLAIMING a 9.3 1/4 mile time for the untested (by independant sources) 12. We've had months of 12 BS floating around and if YOU are going to post stuff like this don't be shocked or taken aback to be asked to BACK IT UP - even if they are pre-production numbers. Based on your most recent post it sounds like an ASSUMPTION on your part rather than numbers the independant testers/reviewers will achieve. Kind of reminds me of the last time your were posting this "stuff"! :)

As far as asking for this stuff one should note that it is you KAW guys with green envy who are initiating these threads. In fact the original author of THIS thread runs a ZX-11 site if I'm not mistaken! One could ask the question : Why do those with GREEN envy come to OUR site to post this stuff?!!

[This message has been edited by Todd (edited 25 August 1999).]

[This message has been edited by Todd (edited 25 August 1999).]
 
Just my opinion.....zx12 is no threat (yet)?
And i don't think it ever will be.
As far as performance,it might match it...maybe.
Straight line performance top speed,no.
Roll-ons it will probably match it.
The zx12 may outrun it in the 1/4 by a couple hundredths of a second,but i don't think that matters.
Stories of mid-9's in the 1/4 and speeds of 210mph(cough,cough)bullshit!
It don't have the aero's of the 'BUSA or the looks....so who cares.
Zx12 will be a hyper superbike.
Busa is a hyper superbike tourer.
Make your choice.
I think everyones decision should be made on looks alone.
The zx12 WON'T be the next level motorcycle this soon.....manufacturers need some time to advance after the Hayabusa onslaught!
 
Todd, the reason behind me not mentioning actual times and speeds in my original post was to prevent conversations like this to happen. Your memory must also recall that I did have the info, just chose not to share at the time. I, for one, wanted to see the delivered goods.....

"I am confident that I received some good information (power, top speed, 1/4 times, price, weight, etc.), but only time will tell."


Kevin
 
My point is: It's not possible to remember what I never knew. You never gave the specs passed on to you by your source back when you first mentioned you had spoken to an "insider". Then at a later date you posted 9.3 seconds with no source or attribution of the "new" time. In fact in wasn't until TODAY that you actually attributed the post you made on Aug 25th with the 9.3 sec claim (which listed no source) to the insider. Now I feel like I'm talking to my wife who thinks my memory is bad because I don't remember something she NEVER told me.
Like I said I'm NOT a mind reader. One would have to GUESS or make an ASSUMPTION from your past postings about speaking to an insider that ANYTHING you might post at a later date was information obtained from the source mentioned in the past post since you didn't indicate so until TODAY. If there is one thing I have learned riding bikes it would be NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING - especially when it comes to traffic! :)
 
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