2022 Engine changes....
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That part about the mufflers “silencers” changing colors suited to the type of riding that’s done sounds a lil...hawdabeeleeve! The part about how the exhaust is tuned for sound (is) believable though as Kawasaki did the same to my Z900RS. On mine, the volume and ’bark’ of the exhaust is dealt with in the breadbox sized Cat under the bike. Several guys have changed mufflers with almost no change in volume or tone. Once the Cat is deleted the baffling of the mufflers determines the sound but, it doesn’t change colors. 
Thin walled headers can change colors but I’ve never seen a muffler change colors. It will be interesting to see how ‘each rider can add a unique personal touch to their bike’ by the different colors and “hue” of the silencers. Whaaaaa?
Thin walled headers can change colors but I’ve never seen a muffler change colors. It will be interesting to see how ‘each rider can add a unique personal touch to their bike’ by the different colors and “hue” of the silencers. Whaaaaa?
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I heard the clip with the Akrapovic slip ons and the new bike doesn't sound any better than the stock system which tells me the slip ons are probably choked out too.That part about the mufflers changing colors suited to the type of riding that’s done sounds a lil...hawdabeeleeve! The part about how the exhaust is tuned for sound (is) believable though as Kawasaki did the same to my Z900RS. On mine, the volume and ’bark’ of the exhaust is dealt with in the breadbox sized Cat under the bike. Several guys have changed mufflers with almost no change in volume or tone. Once the Cat is deleted the baffling of the mufflers determines the sound but, it doesn’t change colors.
Is like to see that big boxed Cat opened up to see just how intricate the baffling is, on mine and the new Busa.
I'd imagine it's pretty intricate...and choking the bike out pretty good.
I recall one time I over packed the cans on my RD and boy did it ever kill the performance...in those days it was all trial by error...I would go down the road and each mile or so take a bit of the packing out until the bike would wind out properly...
I modded a set of stock cans for my Busa by removing the end plate chrome ‘beauty’ cover and drilling nine 1/2” holes in the ‘real’ end plate and five more in the next baffle plate. Ran it without beauty cover which covers the nine holes but doesn’t actually restrict the air flow but the sound was too loud. Running it with the covers reduced the sound to ‘just right’ but didn’t seem to restrict the air flow. The dyno runs compared to stock cans showed a lil flat spot in the mid range and a loss of five hp, 155 vs the best pull with stock cans @ 160. something, not quite 161, I can’t remember exactly.
I couldn’t feel any hp loss but I could feel the lack of let’s say, ‘urgency’ the mid range had with the stock cans. The sound though is really nice, a low rumble at idle and a nice roar accelerating. The decel sound is also sweet! But, overall, mile after mile, the droning sound of louder pipes is not desirable. I like the sound of the motor as it winds up and loud pipes drowns that out. Mine is old enough, even though it’s a CA. smogged version, to NOT have that huge Cat underneath like my Z has.
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Because every internet hater reading the claimed hp/tq numbers seems to think that...
...right....gotcha....well, @ChrisMooreMafia seems to think it will make power and he's a man who knows...that's good enough for me.Because every internet hater reading the claimed hp/tq numbers seems to think that...
Even the other generations of Hayabusa weren't screamers until the aftermarket and tuners caught up to them...this bike will be no different.
Could and should Suzuki have made it over 200 RWHP out of the gate? Absolutely....
Dai.
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It’s based on stock vs stock performance as per Suzuki has released, it’s quicker to 60 but does the same quarter time as a Gen 2.Because every internet hater reading the claimed hp/tq numbers seems to think that...
One shouldn’t be spending more money to “unlock” hidden performance that should’ve come standard with the money they’re asking.
It is what it is, others are excited for the arrival whilst others including myself would either keep their current steeds because they’d ride them the same, not enough upgrades or value for money or simply buy something else.
There is something to be said about upholding the "walk the walk" theory...the very name "Hayabusa" is all about the "talk the talk" now, even the tuners and aftermarket will struggle with this one I reckon.
Yet every 1,000 right now has a restricted ECU that doesn't make near the claimed HP stock and people aren't complaining about spending money modding those bikes to bring them back to full power...
Dai.
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That would depend on the country and comparable prices. In Australia,i can buy a brand new 2021 GSXR for $19,000 ride away which is hindsight is quicker than the new Busa whilst being $8k cheaper and if you were to spend $8k on each,the gap would further increase.
If they priced it at $24k max,i would consider one but paying European prices for a jap bike with already old technology and less power is a backwards move in my opinion.
As I've previously stated,if you're upgrading and releasing a new generation,it's not a smart move to go backwards in any department regardless whether there is hidden magic waiting to be released.
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I got a deal on my '19, brand new, 0 miles for about 8k less than the gen3. If that price gap wasn't so wide I would consider the new one. I've always looked at the Busa like a Big Block 454 Chevelle not a big block Vista Cruiser. Again, I would get one but the numbers don't add up for my situation.
Quicker means acceleration, how do you know it's quicker when the bikes aren't even released. If Suzuki is rating it quicker than the old bike in 0-60, 1/8, etc aren't you putting the buggy before the horse a bit..lol.
How much did you pay for your 2019? Every area is different so it may be for some, not the case for me especially factoring in the upgrades for price.
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Less than 11k out the door. That's why I was saying the numbers would not add up for me. I would definitely get the gen3 if for no other reason than to have the first of a new generation, but again the price between the two wouldn't make sense in my case.
Looking at what was done for the Gen3 I believe they built it with the aftermarket in mind. A pipe, tune and stacks I think would be more than enough to get the job done which would put it over 20k which unfoutunately is even more out of my price range. I still can't wait to see what you guys do with it!
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