american flag upside down

[Devious]

(HT_USMC @ Dec. 15 2006,11:02)

(RCKTMAN @ Dec. 15 2006,05:47) ok whatever!!!!!!! bottom line is: shipem out and lets start all over again. theres no excuse for the way YOUR government is handling this........... we spend too much time worrying about hurting their feelings and not enough time worrying about whats good for this country. i get my pay check and sit back and marvel at why the hell i pay these F'in idiots a dime.


ITS NOTHING A LARGE FENCE AND A BUNCH OF SNIPER RIFLES CANT HANDLE.


AND NO IM NOT SORRY.............

I'm shocked that I actually agree with you on a topic Rocketman.  I was certain we would never see eye to eye on anything but... here I sit in total agreement.

Well I'll just be damned...
The last time I even hinted at something like this I was called a Racist, among other things...
I have tried in the past to point out outrageous crap like the Flag thing down here in South Texas...
I see it all the time. People down here will put a sticker off the Mexican flag on top of an American flag on the back of their (uninsured) cars...
Most of the Restaurants and stores in this area fly the Mexican flag only...
You guys in the North have no idea just how far crap like this has gone. Down here the Illegals have taken over almost everything...
Local governments, City Councils, Police and so forth are almost all Hispanic now in this area...
And no longer fear the Law or the Gov...
Now I don't have a problem with the Hispanics being in charge of things...
As long as they are Legal Citizens...
What I do have a big problem with is that they openly turn a blind eye to all the Illegal/Undocumented people here...
If you want to see just how far this has gone, come on down and I'll show you around...
I have no doubt you will leave here both pissed and very scared for the future of my Country...
The United States of America...
Not the United States of Mexico...


David

 

[AES]

(HT_USMC @ Dec. 15 2006,09:02)

(RCKTMAN @ Dec. 15 2006,05:47) ok whatever!!!!!!! bottom line is: shipem out and lets start all over again. theres no excuse for the way YOUR government is handling this........... we spend too much time worrying about hurting their feelings and not enough time worrying about whats good for this country. i get my pay check and sit back and marvel at why the hell i pay these F'in idiots a dime.


ITS NOTHING A LARGE FENCE AND A BUNCH OF SNIPER RIFLES CANT HANDLE.


AND NO IM NOT SORRY.............

I'm shocked that I actually agree with you on a topic Rocketman.  I was certain we would never see eye to eye on anything but... here I sit in total agreement.

i can drag it to a little more of an extreme if you like. Im just the type of person that leaves emotion out of decision making. I dont care how people feel about the things i say....... there is RIGHT and there is WRONG. its probably the police officer in me. i believe that if you leave the politics and feelings out of decisions concerning our country or anything for that matter things will naturally go in the right direction.

In a country this size NO SINGLE GROUP OF PEOPLE are gonna vote you out. "WE" need one leader that will just step forward and say, "Guys, i know that you are not gonna agree with everything i am about to do BUT I have an obligation to the AMERICAN CITIZENS TO MAINTAIN THE ORDER AND DIGNITY OF THIS COUNTRY, and THAT is exactly what i intend to do." If they could just get those words out of their mouths anything they did after that would'nt matter.

When you consider that they have no rights because they are here illegally it really clears up a lot of red tape that would otherwise create problems.


but like i said, throw them back on the other side of the fence "in a diplomatic fashion if you must" and lets start over again.

 

[PDBusa]

I actually had INS contact me and express interest in an illegal for deportation. I had him collared for 4 Felony counts of sex crimes. He will do 5 years here then be deported. So I figure he'll be back on street here in 5 years and 3 months.

No respect for America. As a nation we need to wake up.

 

[AES]

The easiest way to get them back to mexico is stiff penalties for anyone that is caught hiring an illegal to work for them............. and im not talking peanuts im talking $5000.00 first offense $10,000.00 second offender. AND THEN "we shut your business down" 3rd time offender. they could start in the home building industry, landscaping, roofing and any construction jobs.

 

[psycobusa]

(Devious @ Dec. 15 2006,11:25)

(HT_USMC @ Dec. 15 2006,11:02)

(RCKTMAN @ Dec. 15 2006,05:47) ok whatever!!!!!!! bottom line is: shipem out and lets start all over again. theres no excuse for the way YOUR government is handling this........... we spend too much time worrying about hurting their feelings and not enough time worrying about whats good for this country. i get my pay check and sit back and marvel at why the hell i pay these F'in idiots a dime.


ITS NOTHING A LARGE FENCE AND A BUNCH OF SNIPER RIFLES CANT HANDLE.


AND NO IM NOT SORRY.............

I'm shocked that I actually agree with you on a topic Rocketman.  I was certain we would never see eye to eye on anything but... here I sit in total agreement.

Well I'll just be damned...
The last time I even hinted at something like this I was called a Racist, among other things...
I have tried in the past to point out outrageous crap like the Flag thing down here in South Texas...
I see it all the time. People down here will put a sticker off the Mexican flag on top of an American flag on the back of their (uninsured) cars...
Most of the Restaurants and stores in this area fly the Mexican flag only...
You guys in the North have no idea just how far crap like this has gone. Down here the Illegals have taken over almost everything...
Local governments, City Councils, Police and so forth are almost all Hispanic now in this area...
And no longer fear the Law or the Gov...
Now I don't have a problem with the Hispanics being in charge of things...
As long as they are Legal Citizens...
What I do have a big problem with is that they openly turn a blind eye to all the Illegal/Undocumented people here...
If you want to see just how far this has gone, come on down and I'll show you around...
I have no doubt you will leave here both pissed and very scared for the future of my Country...
The United States of America...
Not the United States of Mexico...


David

i can completly relate to what devious is trying to say. i was born and raised in MS and the only mexicans i saw worked at the guadalajara resturant. they stayed under the radar and most everyone ignored them but i moved to TX about a year ago and its totally out of control over here. i would've never thought i could get this bad.

i had a bad experience with a mexican prosecutor lady over some tickets and i can tell you first hand she talked to all the other mexicans very nice and politely but when it came to the blacks and me the only white guy, she was short and rude....damn i wish i could've roundhouse kicked her azz is in the face. i sat there and watched as one mexican after another were called up to the front with tickets for no ID. the prosecutor was like...ok mr/ms so&so, you need to go to such&such office and have and ID made so i can drop your tickets. im setting you a new court date to give you time to do this.....im sitting there thinking to myself, those people are illegal as hell, why arent ya'll doing anything about it.

a kid born in the US from an illegal automatically becomes legal...that kid grows up and lands a job in government like say a prosecuter. its not right because that kid is going to be sympathetic to the illegals and im betting that is how alot of this crap got started. it took a little time a now the shid is finally hittin the fan.

my uncle was selling a cheap beat up vw for $250 and an illegal he knew wanted it. my uncle talked to the dmv to find out if he could sell it to an illegal and they said he could bring the illegal there to fill out a little paperwork and they would sign the title over to him. he just wouldnt be able to register it.....WTF!!! a known illegal can go into a government building to have a car signed over to him which they know is going to be driven without registration and be able to walk out as free as he entered.....shids crazy down here

they have a law here which prohibits the police from trying to find out if you are illegal or not after being pulled over for a traffic violation...how the hell did that happen?

it wasnt too long ago an illegal shot and killed an officer here in houston.....shids getting way out of control down here

all i can say is the shid is way deeper than the people who dont have to wade in it think.

 

[heavybusa]

Sad times.

 

[AES]

I FIGURED FOR SURE THIS TOPIC WOULD GET MORE BUSINESS.

 

[BusaWizard]

Whats next this is getting rediculious.

 

[MrGxr]

I would like to reply to this using strong langauge and terms such as invaders, Vermin, erradication, war, etc... but then I may come across as a bigot who is against the Mexican culture and people...

In reality, I am not against any religion, race, sexual orientation or whatever... WHAT I am AGAINST is anyone who desicrates, insults, disrespects and/or in anyway harms the United States of America or her Flag...

You want to come over here... do it the right way and live a good life, but you better be support America and her people not the country you came from.

You want to sneak across the border... you should be shot as a enemy trying to invade America or at least shot for trespassing.

Yes, I live in New Mexico and yes we have a problem. What can be done about this problem... well according to our Governer "Bill Richardson" (remember this name because the lying thief is feeling the waters for a run at the Presidency) let's let them in, give them ID cards and drivers licenses and they can have our jobs if they want them... seems to me the whole country is heading this way... WHY?

Because as George Carlin says "its the pu$$ification of the people"...

We have a Government that allows this crap to happen under the disguise of "rights and freedoms"... its bullcrap and time it ends. There is a small group of individuals out there causing all kinds of crap for the rest of us and then foreign country literally starts an invasion and they support it by providing them benefits and means to stay...

If the majority would just stand up and say enough is enough, maybe we can get control of the Country again and make it the place our Forefathers invisioned.

We were once a melting pot of all kinds of religions, races, beliefs and all considered themselves Americans and were proud and protective of this Country... what has happened?

Sorry... see I should not have gotten started and if I have insulted or offended anyone... well... then I have insulted or offended you.

This ticks me off and I don't really care if you agree or not....

This rant may not make sense, but I am pretty peeved right now about this situation we have allowed ourselves to get into... I served for the others to have the rights and freedom that America offers, but you need to a Citizen... not an invader.

 

[1 BAD 2K]

I AGREE & UNDERSTAND WITH EVERYTHING SAID SO FAR! THIS HAS GOTTEN WAY OUT OF HAND SO I THINK IT'S TIME FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CITIZENS TO VOICE THERE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROBLEM TO THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS SOPOSE TO BE PROTECTING OUR RIGHT AND FREEDOMS! IF OUR GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I THINK WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE WRIGHT TO DO IT OUR SELFS.

I THINK WE AS LEGAL CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY THAT OUR FOREFATHERS FOUGHT TO GIVE US OUR FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS. I THINK THAT THIS PROBLEM COULD BE EASILY FIXED IN 30 DAYS. HERE'S HOW

1 ILLEGAL ALIEN ROUND UP SEASON
2 $25 PERMITS TO ROUND UP AS MANY AS YOU CAN IN 30 DAYS (ALIVE CAPTURE ONLY)
3 $50 PERMITS TO SHOOT ANYTHING CROSSING OUR BOARDERS ILLEGALY
4 ANY COMPANY COUGHT WITH ILLEGALS WORKING FOR THEM WOULD HAVE THEIR ASSETS TURNED OVER TO THE STATE AND GOVERNMENT.
5 ALL ILLEGALS YOU TURN IN RESULTS IN A TAX DISCOUNT( I.E 1 TURN IN =$100 REBATE ON YOUR TAXES)
6 HAVE THE ROUND UP EVERY 3 MONTHS
7 HAVE ILLEGALS TURN IN AT ANY BOARDER
8 SPANISH IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE SPOKEN EXCEPT IN THEIR LEGAL HOUSE,CHURCH,STORE, RESTURANT, NEIGHBORHOOD.
9 ILLEGALS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RECEIVE ANY SERVICES OF ANYKIND(I.E. MEDICAL,SOCIAL SERVICES, SCHOOLING, DRIVER LICENSES,)
10 IF THEY WANT TO STAY IN THIS COUNTRY THEY MUST REGISTER FOR A 1 YEAR WORK PERMIT AND PAY $10,000 PERMIT FEE.

IF WE DO THIS I FEELTHIS WILL RELIEVE THE BURDON ON OUR COUNTRY AND OUR GOVERNMENT, NOT TO MENSION HELP REDUCE THE GOVERNMENT DEBIT!!!

 

[GMbusa]

When i heard of people raising money in the Government to put water stations in the desert for the illegals when they're coming here. I almost lost it bad.

 

[dadofthree]

(yamahor @ Dec. 14 2006,21:44) My plan...

If I see an upside down AMERICAN FLAG flown under a MEXICAN flag in AMERICA, I'm walking up to the pole, lowering both flags, and reraising the AMERICAN FLAG right side up, with the Mexican flag either left on the ground, or put upside down UNDER the American flag. The mexican flag being ABOVE the AMERICAN flag is a HUGE sign of disrespect, so said illegals (as I'd only assume would disgrace the country they live in) would have a show of disrespect back.

+1

 

[Rhythm]

(300Busa @ Dec. 14 2006,21:07) My grandfather always said that the flag upside down meant that the country was in distress.  He always put his stamps upside down in the time of war.

Thats what it means !

 

[Rhythm]

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[Poppy]

(yamahor @ Dec. 15 2006,00:52)

(300Busa @ Dec. 15 2006,00:48) isn't it unconstitutional to fly any flag higher than the american flag?

Unfortunately, I'm sure it's protected by freedom of speech somehow... even though illegals don't have the constitutional rights we have...

It's not unconstitutional to fly the flag upside down, just plain disrespectful. At least in the way presented.

 

[Over_Easy]

Just sad...unfortunately if nothing extreme is done by the guv't. it's going to get to the point where one day people will start taking action into their own hands...class warfare.

 

[Aquaman]

I found this to be kinda funny..... So true!

 

[BigmanZ]

Basically, if you see somebody flying the american flag upside down in thier front yard...you should do what I do. Kick down their front door because obviously they are in danger and trying to get a message out to their neighbors that they need immidiate help.

 

[NightCrawler]

A while back my job raised the standards for our weekly bonus. Me being one of the fastest at the work place, it didn't bother me one bit. 2 or 3 of the slower guys realized they were losing $150 to $200 per week due to the change. The funny thing is they came complaining to me about their problems.

- the standard is too high.
- they are taking away our money.
- I have mouths to feed.
- I'm going to quit if they don't lower it.
- I go home too tired.
- blah, blah, blah.

I simply turned to them and explained I had nothing to do with it and they are speaking to the wrong person. I quite frankly didn't care because I'm still making my money. I went on to say that if they have a complaint they should take it to someone who can actually do something about it as opposed to steppin' to someone who has no authority ...

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Oh ... and by the way ... did anyone here know that that incident took place at an American high school (California)?

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The pictures are true. They were taken at Montebello high school on Monday, March 27, 2006. The students were part of a walkout aimed at influencing Congress, which was debating immigration policy and the potential of cracking down on illegal immigrants in the country. Although the flag-raising took place at Montebello high school, officials of the Montebello Unified School District were quick to point out that the protesters were not students from Montebello high school. Assistent Superintendent Robert Henke said the high school was under a lockdown and all the students were in their classrooms. He said that the 800 to 1000 students were from neighboring school districts such as the El Rancho Unified School District and the Whittier Union High School District. They marched to Montebello high school, lowered the flags, replaced the school flag with a Mexican flag, flew the U.S. flag upside down, and stole the California flag that had been on the pole.

 

[tinmann840]

this might be unrelated but , My drill instructor at Parris Island told us that Walt Disney after receiving what in th Corp is know as a "Big Chicken Dinner " (bad conduct discharge) would display it on his Sunday night show The Wonderful World Of Disney , frame and upside down .