Attention Ladies of the org

i think you should set up a web cam on your date so we can all keep an eye on you - no pressure, just to make sure things are going smoothly.
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Ben, since you talk to her all the time I would just tell her that you are really looking forward to spending some time with her away from the workplace, and getting to know her better. Just tell her you would like to do something that she would enjoy and ask her if she has anything special that she would like to do.
 
Don,

Stop overthinking it. Stop trying to plan it out. Relax be yourself and enjoy the evening. Dispose of any pre-conceived notions and/or expectations.

Don
 
If you really want her to like you and woreship the ground you walk on, all you have to do is be an a$$hole to her. Whenever I tried being nice to a girl I liked, most of the time it didnt work. One time I was kinda seeing a girl but wanted to break it off so I started being a a$$ to her and she liked me more and more...


Ok, just relax and be yourself and have fun and you should do just fine.
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No! Some people get the a$$hole thing and confidence mixed up. If you're confident and know what you like/dislike than she will respect that. A girl who likes a guy being a d*** to her is not a confident person herself...

I haven't been on a first date in a long time and never dated a lot before I met my husband. I had a high school sweetheart, joined the Navy and met my husband. We met on deployment so our first date was the first day of liberty in Jebel Ali! How's THAT for romantic!

Sometimes you just have to play it by ear on the first date. You have a pretty good idea of what kind of person she is so go off of that. If she's kind of a shy, nice girl she jsut might like dinner and a movie. If she's loud and crazy she might like going to the bumper cars or something. I would say if it's nice weather, take her for a bike ride. That's romantic to me!

Don't be worried about her meeting you. Maybe she's not telling her father that she's meeting a non-Menonite and just told him she's going to get some milk or something!
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Daisies/ Lillies yes, no roses. That's an advanced relationship level flower.

Women do have the BS factor (Jules) and know when you're over-exaggerating or trying too hard. It sounds to me that she's got an idea of what kind of person you are already so I don't think things would be too bad. Don't worry about the first date. It's never the easiest for anybody! We are not as critical and judgemental as you think! We just want to go out and have a good time with you!
 
Just because she's Mennonite doesn't mean she's Old Order and doesn't drive or have electricity. There are a LOT of different sects that can claim the same Anabaptist roots that the Amish and the Mennonites do. Every sect has a different interpretation of the original teachings of the Dutch Tarfur that came about around the time of the Protestant Reformation. Every community has their own separate Ordnung, or set or rules that they're expected to follow.

I live within walking distance from the most hardcore of the Old Order Pennsylvania Dutch Amish. No electricity, no fossil fuel of any kind, no powered machinery, no manufactured clothing of any kind, the men and women sit in separate rooms during worship and are not allowed to see each other, the music is a capella and unaccompanied, no colored clothing other than blue, black, gray and white, no work or exchange of goods or money on Sunday, no education past eighth grade, no photography or reproduced images, the ladies aren't even allowed to have mirrors. A quick drive through Amish country after dark and you can see them sitting at the window with the lamps turned up high so they can see their reflections in the glass to put their hair up before they go to bed.

They're amazing people, the hardest workers you've ever seen in your life, and they can drink like you wouldn't believe. Seriously, you've never seen a party until you've seen an Amish barn party. They're generally distrustful of most outsiders, they call us "Yankees" as a group (though the accent makes it sound like "Jankkees") or "English" when referring to an individual. (As in the phrase "come in and have a drink, Aaangliskh") But if you grew up in the surrounding community they're a lot easier going. When I was in high school I used to deliver notes between families for their non-telephone correspondence. I consider it an honor that I've gotten the chance to know some of them personally, even though they still call me "Anaglish" in that derisive tone and constantly bum my cigars.
 
ok, so here's my 2c.  She's a mennonite, if you arent sure what all that entales, I'd recommend looking it up online and make sure you are aware of their customs and traditions.  For example, I dated a mormon girl, well 2 actually.... suggesting that they go to a bar and hang out wasnt a good plan and would have been shot down.  Things like that, not saying you should convert or anything but be aware of whats acceptible in her mind (and more importantly her parents).

Flowers are good; small, simple and definitely not RED.  Pink, white are good.  yellow maybe not as much or just get a mix of a few different ones is probably best.  If you arent sure, go with something simple and hope she's not allergic, ask your local florist and don't get them at Walmart or Target (those are ok once you are already in but not for getting in).

Dont sweat the driving herself, could be part of her parents or religious stuff... could be that she's not 100% sure about the date but honestly I'd bet its the former rather than the later.

Ruby Tuesdays is fine, see if she wants to share an app to test the waters some.  Try to mimic her ordering with yours...as in if she's going to get a salad, dont get ribs.  Get something that is simple and easy to eat, not messy... girls dont generally want to watch you clean yourself on the first date or be with the guy thats practicing for the food eating championships.
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 And definitely dont order anything alcoholic to drink!  No beer, no wine nada.  If you want her to get in the car with you, you have to be 100% sober.

Finally as has been mentioned, just be yourself.  You've already impressed her enough to get the date, just be the same guy you always are with her and see how it goes.  Give her a couple of ideas after dinner and see if she's interested in them.  As mentioned before, doing something keeps those weird silence moments away.  If not try a place like the mall where you can walk around, chat and maybe grab a snack/coffee. If she isnt interested dont push it, just tell her you had a good time and that you'd like to do it again sometime...let her say something like "me too" and then you can ask for the second date in the next few days.

Most importantly, just have fun
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oh yeah... we all expect a follow up report Sunday morning to find out how it went
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I want to see your wardrobe now....

This reminds me of that english show "coupling" where he goes on date with cell phone in his ear and 5 coaches...
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yeah... moobs are bad ummkay ... keep those tucked away for the first few dates
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ok, so here's my 2c.  She's a mennonite, if you arent sure what all that entales, I'd recommend looking it up online and make sure you are aware of their customs and traditions.  For example, I dated a mormon girl, well 2 actually.... suggesting that they go to a bar and hang out wasnt a good plan and would have been shot down.  Things like that, not saying you should convert or anything but be aware of whats acceptible in her mind (and more importantly her parents).

Flowers are good; small, simple and definitely not RED.  Pink, white are good.  yellow maybe not as much or just get a mix of a few different ones is probably best.  If you arent sure, go with something simple and hope she's not allergic, ask your local florist and don't get them at Walmart or Target (those are ok once you are already in but not for getting in).

Dont sweat the driving herself, could be part of her parents or religious stuff... could be that she's not 100% sure about the date but honestly I'd bet its the former rather than the later.

Ruby Tuesdays is fine, see if she wants to share an app to test the waters some.  Try to mimic her ordering with yours...as in if she's going to get a salad, dont get ribs.  Get something that is simple and easy to eat, not messy... girls dont generally want to watch you clean yourself on the first date or be with the guy thats practicing for the food eating championships.
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 And definitely dont order anything alcoholic to drink!  No beer, no wine nada.  If you want her to get in the car with you, you have to be 100% sober.

Finally as has been mentioned, just be yourself.  You've already impressed her enough to get the date, just be the same guy you always are with her and see how it goes.  Give her a couple of ideas after dinner and see if she's interested in them.  As mentioned before, doing something keeps those weird silence moments away.  If not try a place like the mall where you can walk around, chat and maybe grab a snack/coffee.  If she isnt interested dont push it, just tell her you had a good time and that you'd like to do it again sometime...let her say something like "me too" and then you can ask for the second date in the next few days.  

Most importantly, just have fun
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Thats about the best stuff i've heard here . Dude when I was single , I always got her flowers (nothing to fancy) present them at her car when you OPEN the door for her ! Make it a small bunch and if she wants to leave them in the car thats okay , and find a place that is different for dinner like a place with a view ( I like a place here that is like bennie Hanas its a Japanese steak house) . Do some research on places to eat . Call ahead and explain to the waiter or waitress that you would like a nice table (even Ruby tuesdays has beetter place to sit ). It doesn't have to be an expensive resturant. Don't do a movie , you can't talk at them . Ask about her likes and BE Interested . Be carful on what you oder , don't be a pig . Manners are very important !!! I never try to kiss on the first date unless she makes the move . ! If things are going good and we are taking a walk maybe I would take her hand . Is there anywhere fun you can go ? I know winter sucks for first dates but. If she likes bowling then that would be good . Walking around the mall is okay because you can find out what her tastes are like . Good luck , and just be yourself remeber she said yes hen you asked her out . If things don't go well don't be discouraged there's alot of women out there!
 
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