It's Taylor. What she said about the perceived equivalence between mistakes and failure is something we need a constant reminder of. I've never been a big fan of her music but that speech was well delivered.
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No no, she’s just like all the rest. Just ask Bee
I don’t dare draw a parallel between her life and mine. Way too many variables.
Another thing she said in that speech: it’s all up to us. Our lives. Everybody gets advice and comments from family and friends. Celebrities of her magnitude get them from millions, but ultimately it’s up to her to decide the importance of speaking up or not. Outside of her singing, dancing and song writing she is just another person with things to say. She has the courage to speak up despite the chance of some of her fans firing her and for that she has my respect.
I am pretty sure you are not honest with yourself. If she nominated Trump, this post from you would not show.
On a philosophical point, I understand Trump's warped sense of humor, but most don't, he seems not smart enough to be presidential some times, or rather say nothing.
His post below on Truth Social and the Dems, I guess you and Wuzza as well will be disgusted?
To me this conversation is about whether celebrities should voice their personal opinions publicly. Period. As usual, you attempt to slight my genuineness.
Alice Cooper’s comment that you posted, insults every fan by implying a celebrity’s stance will affect their own, and at the same time he is using that very tool by voicing his opinion publicly, as is his right.
There's little difference between her and all the other "bubble gum" artists out there...half of them have honorary degrees and half of them all donate to charities (mostly for a tax write off).
Sometimes you surprise me....
As we've seen by Trump......people can be easily influenced by celebrities so much so they will do just about anything the celebrity tells them....
If these celebrities all get up on their soapboxes, it could be a dangerous thing if the wrong message is sent tot heir fans as it has several times in the past....
You can’t eliminate that dynamic. In this country it is defended by the first amendment. If someone is diverted by Trump’s rhetoric or Zerks’ posts, it is on that someone alone.
It’s still better, in my humble opinion, than the alternative.
It's gonna rain cats and dogs and thunder, because for the first time I have something I do agree with Wuzza.
Taylor Swift is a self made massive success, there is nothing bubblegum about her, no scandals and a great role model for all her young fans.
I don't support the first amendment, it has gone beyond reasonable toleration and if it continuous down that path will eventually destroy America.
We need a President who kicks a$$ into jail for burning a flag, painting historical monuments, sporting Hamas flags and the list goes on.
Nowhere else in the world will one find this level of behavior acceptable.
Not at all, I just think you are very human, with emotions, empathy and admiration for where it is due.
It’s awesome that you can make that that statement. That inalienable right is the reason I won’t move away no matter who is in the White House.
I appreciate that, at the same time you question my ability to draw a conclusion based on critical thought. I prefer to examine other opinions based on the merit of the opinion alone.
Maybe, I have just been around many countries, done business in many places and my statement is based on fact.
Free speech has some boundaries within the law. The moment you include violence against someone if free speech you will be arrested. I believe in free speech and freedom of expression, there should be more boundaries though, as mentioned in my post above. The rest of the Western World has this right, we don't.
Who awards the merit? You?
Under Biden's Administration, that dynamic was eliminated. Ask Mark Zuckerberg, what he was forced to censor.
Of course. If based on my interpretation and experiences, who else? Do you not draw conclusions based on your beliefs and personal code of ethics? I’m always intrigued by alternate conclusions. It’s part of the process.
I’ve never endorsed censorship and my opinion is not swayed by who transgresses. Still living here. Always.
If an entity doesn’t want something known, don’t create it. The decision to get a vaccine is the choice of the individual.
I look at that very different from the way you do:
1.) It is not important for me to be correct, or be corrected. If I am incorrect, no sweat, I change my opinion and accept yours.
2.) There are three sentences in my vocabulary:
I think --- means I really am not sure, but lean towards an opinion.
I believe - means I am pretty sure, but not 100%, I may be wrong.
I know --- Fact based, I am 100% sure my opinion is correct.
The last one, "I know", if you prove me wrong with facts or new information, I will change my opinion, again, no sweat.
BTW: I believe we have met in person, some 20+ years ago or close. I introduced myself, started a conversation, you got distracted by something, I wasn't sure you heard me and mingled somewhere else.
Which bashes did you attend?
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