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Blanca BusaLess said:
Ooops
www.dailymail.co.uk

Ford delays $12billion investment in next gen EVs

Ford has said it will slash spending on EVs because it can't sell enough to offset costs, revealing it lost $47,000 on each electric car it sold last quarter.
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They are their own worst enemy. I looked into buying the EV van they were touting. On the surface you believe they are going to price out similar to the ICE version. That was a crock of crap! They ended up being about double. And it was a year before they even build it.
 
If you could turn off traction control that 911 might launch better and smoke it, but it’s still pretty cool that that truck’s that fast.
 
Looks like the Cybertruck still got a win on the 1/8th.

0-60 it is way ahead at 2.9 seconds

Cybertruck top end is only 130 mph, so on the 1/4 it has never been a match for the Porche.
 
As it happens my sister called me pretty upset asking if I had any insights to help. She remembers me suing Ford. She has a Model X. Still under warranty. Picked up a crack in the windshield (not sure how), that finally got bad enough it failed safety inspection. So she called her insurance carrier USAA. Yes it's covered. They sent her to Safelite. Who proceeded to change it. $100 deductible. They had the car for 3 days. She picks it up. Driving home notices a lot of wind noise.

Takes it back. They claimed they replaced it again after another 3 day stay. Driving home. Same wind noise.

After 3 times Safelite says we can't do it any better. Tesla won't give us Tesla windshields. Aftermarket are just a little bit different. So she calls USAA again. Well we won't authorize Tesla because it's $3K just for the windshield and Tesla will only allow Tesla to replace it. For an additional $1500. If you want to go that route you have to go out of pocket.

She has had her car at Safelite 3 days each time. Because it's not due to an accident she doesn't have rental car benefits.

She is more than a little pissed with a crack from no apparent reason, and unless you go the Tesla route you won't get a decent replacement screen.

I told her to put pressure on USAA. I have no idea if they have to replace with OEM or not. I haven't seen her policy. But I'm sure an attorney can get a windshield replaced correctly.

I don't have USAA so I can't say if it's just a USAA thing. But she is pissed at Tesla not making good on a windshield that cracks for no apparent reason. They push back saying it has to be due to road event. But she had no event. It just developed a crack during the cold snap they had there.

So there's a story from the trenches of ownership.
 
TallTom said:
As it happens my sister called me pretty upset asking if I had any insights to help. She remembers me suing Ford. She has a Model X. Still under warranty. Picked up a crack in the windshield (not sure how), that finally got bad enough it failed safety inspection. So she called her insurance carrier USAA. Yes it's covered. They sent her to Safelite. Who proceeded to change it. $100 deductible. They had the car for 3 days. She picks it up. Driving home notices a lot of wind noise.

Takes it back. They claimed they replaced it again after another 3 day stay. Driving home. Same wind noise.

After 3 times Safelite says we can't do it any better. Tesla won't give us Tesla windshields. Aftermarket are just a little bit different. So she calls USAA again. Well we won't authorize Tesla because it's $3K just for the windshield and Tesla will only allow Tesla to replace it. For an additional $1500. If you want to go that route you have to go out of pocket.

She has had her car at Safelite 3 days each time. Because it's not due to an accident she doesn't have rental car benefits.

She is more than a little pissed with a crack from no apparent reason, and unless you go the Tesla route you won't get a decent replacement screen.

I told her to put pressure on USAA. I have no idea if they have to replace with OEM or not. I haven't seen her policy. But I'm sure an attorney can get a windshield replaced correctly.

I don't have USAA so I can't say if it's just a USAA thing. But she is pissed at Tesla not making good on a windshield that cracks for no apparent reason. They push back saying it has to be due to road event. But she had no event. It just developed a crack during the cold snap they had there.

So there's a story from the trenches of ownership.
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There's been many reports that insurance rates will be skyrocketing for EV owners due to instances like this.

That and as soon as they are involved in an accident they are easily written off...
 
I think it's over saturation. China had a huge automotive year in 2023, expanding exports exponentially, by 60 something percent. Too much too soon, coupled with a poor Chinese economy has caused a bursting of the Chinese auto bubble, not totally unlike the dot com bubble bursting in 2000. I read some say it was interest rates, but it sure looks like a saturation of a market that people didn't think had boundaries. Read about what happened then and look at internet businesses and sales today.

It's interesting to me how polarizing the EV discussion is. I read another forum that has a thread on it as well, and there the pro EV people outnumber the others inversely to this forum. Like here, it's a long, involved discussion with plenty of disagreements.

Driving home today I pulled up next to a person on a Zero motorcycle, the first one I've seen on the street. Looked pretty cool. I put down my window so I could hear it take off and I did hear a whirring noise, but pretty darn quiet for a bike.
 
jellyrug said:
Uh oh……

www.foxbusiness.com

Tesla Cybertruck owners claim $80K, stainless steel vehicles developed 'corrosion,' 'rust': reports

Two members of a Cybertruck owner's forum claimed that they found "orange rust spots" and "corrosion" on their brand-new trucks, which cost almost $80,000.
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Yes well to expected since the metal sheet probably comes from China like everything else. There is SS like they use on boats, and there is SS like they use on backyard BBQs. We know now which grade the Tesla is clad with. Still I don't understand all the complaints though, I would have though a nice patina of rust would have added to the trucks general appeal? I mean it looks like it came out of 1970's junkyard anyway. A sort a rusty homage to a DeLorean.

That is the old 1970's Gas powered version, not the electric version that obviously bought out the band name. But the website //delorean.com/ is broken so I assume they went bankrupt like all the other little startups. The vid below, by some fat woman with too much makeup describes it. The car can give you a virtual hug, and kiss. How cool inane is that.



Since September (2022) buyers have been able to sign up for a $US88 ($AU130) one-off membership to the DeLorean 'Alphas Club', which grants access to a platform that allows buyers to pay a further $US2500 ($AU3715) to secure a "build slot".
This pre-order is claimed to guarantee a "randomised production slot" in the form of a non-fungible token (NFT) – a digital image of an Alpha5 which is authenticated through online servers to be one of one. Reborn electric DeLorean production slashed before it begins, ruled out for Australia

Doesn't get any flakier than that does it
 
We've been down this road before, grandiose promises to hide all the downsides.

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Only a few fan boi left now <thankfully>

Oh, one more thing of note on the body rust issue, the mainstream media are doing a nice coverup and blaming "rail dust" but that assumes the trucks are moved by rail, and that the Tesla dealer doesn't clean them before sale, which all dealers do, even for second hand cars. The process of cleaning off rail dust is as old as cars themselves. No, the Tesla Cybertruck isn't rusting - here's what is actually happening
 
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Oz22 said:
Yes well to expected since the metal sheet probably comes from China like everything else. There is SS like they use on boats, and there is SS like they use on backyard BBQs. We know now which grade the Tesla is clad with. Still I don't understand all the complaints though, I would have though a nice patina of rust would have added to the trucks general appeal? I mean it looks like it came out of 1970's junkyard anyway. A sort a rusty homage to a DeLorean.

That is the old 1970's Gas powered version, not the electric version that obviously bought out the band name. But the website //delorean.com/ is broken so I assume they went bankrupt like all the other little startups. The vid below, by some fat woman with too much makeup describes it. The car can give you a virtual hug, and kiss. How cool inane is that.



Since September (2022) buyers have been able to sign up for a $US88 ($AU130) one-off membership to the DeLorean 'Alphas Club', which grants access to a platform that allows buyers to pay a further $US2500 ($AU3715) to secure a "build slot".
This pre-order is claimed to guarantee a "randomised production slot" in the form of a non-fungible token (NFT) – a digital image of an Alpha5 which is authenticated through online servers to be one of one. Reborn electric DeLorean production slashed before it begins, ruled out for Australia

Doesn't get any flakier than that does it
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One of the biggest issues with these "knock off" brands is getting any sort of service done...with all the new and complicated tech in vehicles these days, having a robust service plan is important...
 
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