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A friend of mine who is very financial astute and who follows a lot of things has mentioned something he heard.

It was regarding everyone who owns an EV being given a carbon credit and you are allowed to use so much before you have to pay extra in order to get more credit. If for some reason too many people are applying for carbon extensions or a person doesn't apply, they (the government) can shut down your ability to drive your EV by cyber locking it....

The tech is already there for this to be a reality.
 
Huh? The credit is applied as a rebate or tax form., which is conveniently cancelled out in many states by having to pay for lost revenue in petroleum products. It has nothing to do with how many miles a vehicle is driven. That is here in this country, and I would have to read that Canada is any different before I would believe such an outlandish claim. That's utterly ridiculous.
 
Red05 said:
Huh? The credit is applied as a rebate or tax form., which is conveniently cancelled out in many states by having to pay for lost revenue in petroleum products. It has nothing to do with how many miles a vehicle is driven. That is here in this country, and I would have to read that Canada is any different before I would believe such an outlandish claim. That's utterly ridiculous.
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He follows the financial world....

Nothing is outlandish these days even if you think it is.....

If the government can force EV on the masses, I wonder why implementing a personal carbon credit would be any different..

It makes perfect sense to me.....I don't like the idea nor do I promote the idea though....
 
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That sounds an extreme amount like a conspiracy theory. The credit to the consumer is monetary. To even theorize that the U.S. or Canadian government would control how you spend it is ludicrous. Next your friend will say the government will audit how much sun can hit your flower beds.
I realize you want to augment your "why not EVs argument, but frankly Bee, I'm embarrassed to read that.
 
Red05 said:
That sounds an extreme amount like a conspiracy theory. The credit to the consumer is monetary. To even theorize that the U.S. or Canadian government would control how you spend it is ludicrous. Next your friend will say the government will audit how much sun can hit your flower beds.
I realize you want to augment your "why not EVs argument, but frankly Bee, I'm embarrassed to read that.
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Be embarrassed all you want....

I'm not the one saying or coming up with this....and frankly it wouldn't surprise me one bit that governmental overreach would be the norm in the coming years...he wasn't saying this will happen tomorrow or maybe even in his and my lifetime....

This guy follows the financial world at a level that the rest of us don't and as we know, in the end the financial world controls everything.

This forum and this thread is about discussion and making us think.....once it stops being that sort of platform....what is it?
 
Red05 said:
I don’t know Bee. Good question.
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I just thought it to an interesting insight into what some people are thinking outside this forum on what the future might hold for us...

Maybe a personal carbon control measure could be a thing of the future...each person is allotted so many carbon footprint points a year to be used at their discretion and if they go over, they pay...???
 
Bumblebee said:
A friend of mine who is very financial astute and who follows a lot of things has mentioned something he heard.

It was regarding everyone who owns an EV being given a carbon credit and you are allowed to use so much before you have to pay extra in order to get more credit. If for some reason too many people are applying for carbon extensions or a person doesn't apply, they (the government) can shut down your ability to drive your EV by cyber locking it....

The tech is already there for this to be a reality.
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For a industrial not for the average Joe.

www.investopedia.com

Carbon Credits and How They Work

A carbon credit allows the holder to emit a limited amount of carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases. Several states and countries participate in these programs.
www.investopedia.com www.investopedia.com
 
jellyrug said:
For a industrial not for the average Joe.

www.investopedia.com

Carbon Credits and How They Work

A carbon credit allows the holder to emit a limited amount of carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases. Several states and countries participate in these programs.
www.investopedia.com www.investopedia.com
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.........yet.......

What the future holds, nobody knows or their not saying (out loud).

The government can re-program the term "credit" in anyway they deem fit.....

We have credit cards issued to individuals after all...
 
Bumblebee said:
Maybe a personal carbon control measure could be a thing of the future...each person is allotted so many carbon footprint points a year to be used at their discretion and if they go over, they pay...???
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I would totally believe this as a plausible scenario for some of the political aspirations of all things green.

When water was rationed you got fined if you used too much. They can and still do read the water meters remotely. All of utilities have been remotely monitored the whole time I have lived in my current house.

So yeah I'd totally believe they'd know how to watch it.
 
TallTom said:
I would totally believe this as a plausible scenario for some of the political aspirations of all things green.

When water was rationed you got fined if you used too much. They can and still do read the water meters remotely. All of utilities have been remotely monitored the whole time I have lived in my current house.

So yeah I'd totally believe they'd know how to watch it.
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People here pay for water and sewer on top of property taxes...and these rates aren't set, you produce or use more, you pay more.

I have a well and septic so avoid those thankfully...
 
Bumblebee said:
.........yet.......

What the future holds, nobody knows or their not saying (out loud).

The government can re-program the term "credit" in anyway they deem fit.....

We have credit cards issued to individuals after all...
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Your friend’s scenario left out use of combustion engine vehicles. Why not create an account for everyone tracking how much gas they use? Why wouldn’t this hypothetical situation include that use? Simply because it doesn’t bolster the anti EV argument. Doesn’t matter if the world is ready for electric vehicles. Nobody knows that for sure and it will work itself out.

What matters is that we don’t lose our sanity over it. Unfounded fear of fanatical, overreaching control by our two respective governments is the first step to chaos in thought. Keep your head on straight; it’s easy to wander in debate.
 
I took part in making a commercial for a vegetable slicer today. They let me play with it for 10 or 15 minutes than asked me a series of questions about it on camera. I sweat more in that segment than I have in the gym for a while. They actually gave me a slicer at the end, pretty cool, modern version of a vegamatic, only mandolin or guillotine style, with more options. Great for french fries.

Wander like that? :lol:
 
Red05 said:
I took part in making a commercial for a vegetable slicer today. They let me play with it for 10 or 15 minutes than asked me a series of questions about it on camera. I sweat more in that segment than I have in the gym for a while. They actually gave me a slicer at the end, pretty cool, modern version of a vegamatic, only mandolin or guillotine style, with more options. Great for french fries.

Wander like that? :lol:
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Sure...it's on topic......it's electric afterall......

.....and seeing as I started this thread, I don't get offended if it wanders around....

That's what makes this forum so great.
 
Bumblebee said:
From Toyota who in my opinion are the leaders in the auto industry..

Toyota Says It's Not 'Anti-EV,' It's 'Just Being Real'​


MSN

www.msn.com
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I have never been able to figure out why the Toyota Mirai has not taken off? Only California and where there is Hydrogen filling; the concept seems to work just fine.

BMW is now bringing an IX5 Hydrogen Cell vehicle to CA as well, as the infrastructure is available there.
 
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Red05 said:
Can’t blame them. Their priority is to sell vehicles.
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....and lead the industry...

Their vehicles are known to be the most reliable, long lasting on the roads these days...

They could have put a lot less engineering into their vehicles to make them more disposable which equates to more being sold.
 
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