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There is bad cops and not so bad cops, never met good cop.
Shame on you Vic
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Some "cops" became cops because of the bad treatment and azzez out there doing a bad job of it.

After being jacked up so much at home (LA) I stopped talking noise and walked a mile in their shoes.

I was a damn good Police Officer (LAPD 3 years)
And now I'm a damn good Troop (Texas State Trooper 11 years and Counting)

I treat everyone like I want my family or I to be treated.

WALK IN MY SHOES A WHILE THEN....... LETS TALK!
 
I am not attacking Butters, so much as saying "Yeah Dude, I hear you but..." I've been there before and can see it playing out...

Call it backhanded empathy...
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OH and Butters, and everyone else on the board, When I spout off and call your Mom names or whatever, don't think for a minute, that I am spouting off because I am a Admin and you cannot respond in kind...

Bullcrap, have at me, tell me I'm ugly and smell bad, I may stomp my feet, call you names, and post up a rabid rhino picture, but I will never, WARN, BAN, BLOCK, OR EDIT posts calling me on the carpet for my own BS... That's not fair.

If you attack me in an unwarranted personal manner? I'll likely take the same action I take when any of the Mods/Admins are attacked. I'll delete the post, PM you, Ban you and mail you a dead squirrel...

But damnit, if I'm diggin and poking and sounding off about something you don't like, or agree with??? Tell me where to go or at least make a recommendation, it's much more interesting and it's only fair...

Fortunately, it would seem that not many of you have ANY TROUBLES telling me where to go and what to do when I get there...
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But just in case anyone new to the Board or forums in general... High Post count and Admin status doesn't mean a person gets a free ride if they are being a creep, mean, or playing rough... And I will.
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Did you start smoking again and are trying to quit Rev? I'm just asking
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Nothin' but love man, nothin' but love
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I thought this fell directly into the friendlier kinder revlis plan. I am just delicately pointing out in my own soft spoken way that things rarely go Sideways without help.
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There is bad cops and not so bad cops, never met good cop.
Shame on you Vic
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Some "cops" became cops because of the bad treatment and azzez out there doing a bad job of it.

After being jacked up so much at home (LA) I stopped talking noise and walked a mile in their shoes.

I was a damn good Police Officer (LAPD 3 years)
And now I'm a damn good Troop (Texas State Trooper 11 years and Counting)

I treat everyone like I want my family or I to be treated.

WALK IN MY SHOES A WHILE THEN....... LETS TALK!
What is your definition of good trooper?

Maybe it`s just my bad luck but I never meet a good respectful cop. I met great persons who happened to be a cop but never on the road.

I can write a book about racial profiling, rudeness and unprofessionalism of those LEOs I interacted with. I`ll take my words back, not all the COPs are bad, little percentage of them I met ON THE ROAD were all very unpleasant.


I`m not a criminal, I never been arrested, I never been involved in an accident in my 25 years on the road, not even once. I`m law abiding citizen, paying my taxes and working with LEOs for the last 8 years. I`m also an immigrant who got in this Greatest Country in the whole world 11 years ago, legally. I learned the language, it was not easy since I was 30 at the time.
I will never get rid of my accent, unfortunately. Maybe that is my problem only, they hear the accent and treat me like criminal?

I would be very thankful to anyone who can change my perspective on LEOs, so far nobody succeeded.
Those bad apples makes all of you look bad. If you are one of them, well, just think about it next time you on the road making up your quota.

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I thought this fell directly into the friendlier kinder revlis plan. I am just delicately pointing out in my own soft spoken way that things rarely go Sideways without help.
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It's clearly the "softer, squishy" Rev program
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You're just so damn cute! *pinches cheeks*
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There is bad cops and not so bad cops, never met good cop.
Shame on you Vic
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Some "cops" became cops because of the bad treatment and azzez out there doing a bad job of it.

After being jacked up so much at home (LA) I stopped talking noise and walked a mile in their shoes.

I was a damn good Police Officer (LAPD 3 years)
And now I'm a damn good Troop (Texas State Trooper 11 years and Counting)

I treat everyone like I want my family or I to be treated.

WALK IN MY SHOES A WHILE THEN....... LETS TALK!
What is your definition of good trooper?

Maybe it`s just my bad luck but I never meet a good respectful cop. I met great persons who happened to be a cop but never on the road.

I can write a book about racial profiling, rudeness and unprofessionalism of those LEOs I interacted with. I`ll take my words back, not all the COPs are bad, little percentage of them I met ON THE ROAD were all very unpleasant.


I`m not a criminal, I never been arrested, I never been involved in an accident in my 25 years on the road, not even once. I`m law abiding citizen, paying my taxes and working with LEOs for the last 8 years. I`m also an immigrant who got in this Greatest Country in the whole world 11 years ago, legally. I learned the language, it was not easy since I was 30 at the time.
I will never get rid of my accent, unfortunately. Maybe that is my problem only, they hear the accent and treat me like criminal?

I would be very thankful to anyone who can change my perspective on LEOs, so far nobody succeeded.
Those bad apples makes all of you look bad. If you are one of them, well, just think about it next time you on the road making up your quota.

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I'll tell you what Vic, one thing I learned a long time ago, every interaction with a LEO is 90% attitude regardless of the situation. I met one Piece of Crap useless guy with a Uniform on a few years back, and thats the only reason it's 90%. Sometimes, very rarely, even if you are mellow, calm, and honest a LEO will still be a chump.

Otherwise, it's all in your attitude, DROP THE ATTITUDE, Forget all about how important you think you are, or how much you are being wronged by being pulled over. Be friendly, Smile, Answer the questions, and do not come across as being somehow special, or entitled to some privilege or concession. Deal with the facts at hand and nothing else. They don't care about you, what you do for a living, or how picked on you feel.

If you are rolling around in an E55 you are going to attract some attention, the same attention you wanted when you bought the car has a dark side, and that is attention from the LEOs. It pays to be EXTRA friendly when in a Middle Range German car cause SO MANY of the owners of these vehicles are truly self involved creeps, so the LEO's tend to be a little defensive to start with. They are used to the crappy attitudes, holier than thou posture, and the "I'm special you can tell from my car" persona that gets thrown at them by so many in the mercs, bms, p-cars etc...

SO, Something to think about when you get pulled over next time. Deep Breath, Loose the attitude, be polite and courteous, and I can just about guarantee you'll have a better time.
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I am not saying it's 100% your Fault bro, I'm just saying that in Colorado, (Where I grew Up) I found the LEOs to consistently be the friendliest most professional officers I've dealt with.
 
OK Back to busabutter though, where'd he go?

BUTTERS... Where you at? Just shaking the doghouse...
 
There is bad cops and not so bad cops, never met good cop.
Shame on you Vic
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Some "cops" became cops because of the bad treatment and azzez out there doing a bad job of it.

After being jacked up so much at home (LA) I stopped talking noise and walked a mile in their shoes.

I was a damn good Police Officer (LAPD 3 years)
And now I'm a damn good Troop (Texas State Trooper 11 years and Counting)

I treat everyone like I want my family or I to be treated.

WALK IN MY SHOES A WHILE THEN....... LETS TALK!
What is your definition of good trooper?

Maybe it`s just my bad luck but I never meet a good respectful cop. I met great persons who happened to be a cop but never on the road.

I can write a book about racial profiling, rudeness and unprofessionalism of those LEOs I interacted with. I`ll take my words back, not all the COPs are bad, little percentage of them I met ON THE ROAD were all very unpleasant.


I`m not a criminal, I never been arrested, I never been involved in an accident in my 25 years on the road, not even once. I`m law abiding citizen, paying my taxes and working with LEOs for the last 8 years. I`m also an immigrant who got in this Greatest Country in the whole world 11 years ago, legally. I learned the language, it was not easy since I was 30 at the time.
I will never get rid of my accent, unfortunately. Maybe that is my problem only, they hear the accent and treat me like criminal?

I would be very thankful to anyone who can change my perspective on LEOs, so far nobody succeeded.
Those bad apples makes all of you look bad. If you are one of them, well, just think about it next time you on the road making up your quota.

beerchug.gif
I'll tell you what Vic, one thing I learned a long time ago, every interaction with a LEO is 90% attitude regardless of the situation. I met one Piece of Crap useless guy with a Uniform on a few years back, and thats the only reason it's 90%. Sometimes, very rarely, even if you are mellow, calm, and honest a LEO will still be a chump.

Otherwise, it's all in your attitude, DROP THE ATTITUDE, Forget all about how important you think you are, or how much you are being wronged by being pulled over. Be friendly, Smile, Answer the questions, and do not come across as being somehow special, or entitled to some privilege or concession. Deal with the facts at hand and nothing else. They don't care about you, what you do for a living, or how picked on you feel.

If you are rolling around in an E55 you are going to attract some attention, the same attention you wanted when you bought the car has a dark side, and that is attention from the LEOs. It pays to be EXTRA friendly when in a Middle Range German car cause SO MANY of the owners of these vehicles are truly self involved creeps, so the LEO's tend to be a little defensive to start with. They are used to the crappy attitudes, holier than thou posture, and the "I'm special you can tell from my car" persona that gets thrown at them by so many in the mercs, bms, p-cars etc...

SO, Something to think about when you get pulled over next time. Deep Breath, Loose the attitude, be polite and courteous, and I can just about guarantee you'll have a better time.
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I am not saying it's 100% your Fault bro, I'm just saying that in Colorado, (Where I grew Up) I found the LEOs to consistently be the friendliest most professional officers I've dealt with.
I never been stopped in my E55, It`s debadged, looks like every other family sedan, that`s why I bought it, not to attract any attention. I just wanted 400HP sleeper.

When I stopped I always very respectful and polite. I never raised my voice. 9 times out of 10 I got the warning, not ticket. 4 tickets I got for the last 10 years I fought and won.
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I agreed with your attitude point.
Let him know from the beginning that his balls much bigger then yours.
He is a King of the World and you agreed with everything he is ever going to say.
You`ll have much more chances to get warning instead.
 
If you are one of them, well, just think about it next time you on the road making up your quota.

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Quota?
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Nevermind  
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Let me shut up.

Peace
Oh come'on...
Come out a play..
Share your acumen...
Everybody knows that a Police Officer gets evaluated based on performance. If he is a patrol officer, his performance equals number of citations written and dollars earned. Well unless you never want to be promoted, you won't recognize that there is a "quota".
 
Didn't read the thread and I'm not a lawyer, but it would seem that your forth amendment rights were violated and you have grounds for a lawsuit.
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I agreed with your attitude point.
Let him know from the beginning that his balls much bigger then yours.
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I think it is just more a point to understand that this is just some guy (with a gun of course) trying to do his job and needs another PITA civilian to complicate his day...

"Honest" respect goes a long ways, no need to curl up on the ground like a beat dog...
 
I got jacked up one afternoon, out in the boonies just cruizing (at this time) when I meet a county cop, we pass each other, I wave, glance in the mirror and he' doing a Starsky and Hutch in the road behind me. Here he comes lights flashing, horn blaring yelling over the pa. We are now and when he passed me doing 45 mph. I take him on down the road (country) doing an O.J at 45 looking for a wide place to stop. We do finally, he gets out, gun out. I'm there in black Vanson leathers helmet still on and hands outstretched and he thinks I'm John Dillinger. Anyway he yells from behind his car take out your lic. and reg. I reply, yep you guessed, inside my jacket.At this point I was afraid he was going to have a meltdown. Please mister officer can I open my jacket and get these things you asked for? He gets further behind the car, I open the jacket reeeal slow, hold it open, do a 360 turn for him and get out my stuff. He takes it from me very cautiously and goes back to his car. Another unmarked comes haulin up, they talk and I read the other guys lips say, THATS NOT HIM. Then Barney #1 comes up all relaxed, hands back my stuff, and says he's gonna give me a break and only verbal warn me. For what I reply, he says speeding, doing 45 in a 35. To which I say I's a 45 zone, look there is the sign 50 feet from where we were standing. No its 35, gets in his Crown Vic and throws dirt and sand all over me and the bike as he does a burn out off into the distance. Yikes, I know all cops are not like this one but most that I have met are nothing but radar jockies who get wacked in the head if they have to get out of the donut mobile. Like the one who "investigated my Busa when it was stolen, nothing done, statement taken and off to IHOP. Sorry for venting, I feel your pain man......
 
if that is all you have met, you have not gone far out of your way to meet any or been involved in much community service (non-court forced)

"thats not him" should give you some clue as to what he "may" have been faced with and why he may have been taking extraordinary actions to stay safe...
 
Maybe you are right REV, maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all. Maybe I should wait next time so when a careless dissrespectful person walks too close to my ride I'll just let them bump into, or let them hit it with the bag they are carrying or stratch it with their keys they have on the side of their pants.

Personal space. Applies to your belongings as well. So maybe some theif is really close up to your bike and you don't care he can look as closely as he wants, then next thing you know you don't have a bike. You get another bike are you going to let people in as close?

When I told him, I didn't yell it, didn't have too, he was that close. He wasn't a couple inches away, he was as close as you can get without actually touching. Don't forget he has 5 or 6 feet in between me and the other vehichle. Plenty of room. So anyone can get up in your face and as long as they are not touching you it's your fault not theirs?

Telling me that if I kept my mouth shut all would have been avoided? How about if he didn't get so close to my bike all would have been avoided. Do you let people just get as close as they want with your belongings? Is it ok for someone to get that close to your wife, kids maybe a fragile peice of work? I could understand in a crowd but what if they had plenty of room and strangers walked really close to you or yours.

Maybe you don't care and have no respect for other people or their property, or maybe you think the world is bliss and filled with good intentioned people that do no wrong or have any ill will to others.

Give me some of what you are smokin. And that's that. If you are a admin that likes to argue with people because you have nothing else better to do and can't get out of your basement then later. Thought this was a riders forum to share experiences and info. If it's turning into a pissing forum. LATER.............
 
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