Gen 3 bar risers arriving today...any tips?

[sixpack577]

Forgive me - new lad here. I believe in all of the photos by removing the bolts from the bottom you were merely able to remove and roll forward or lift up the entire handlebar assembly and slide on the new and then bolt back up without having to disassemble anything on the handlebars?

I just ordered my Gen3 lucky to get one up here in Canada for spring delivery and of course this is one mod that will be required. I am coming off a BMW K1600GT which I also did a riser on and it truly did make a huge difference on that bike. I am very curious and will be asking questions - hopefully no one gets short with me for asking

The majority of people here are happy to answer questions, and help however is needed.
Welcome to the org

 

[Bumblebee]

Forgive me - new lad here. I believe in all of the photos by removing the bolts from the bottom you were merely able to remove and roll forward or lift up the entire handlebar assembly and slide on the new and then bolt back up without having to disassemble anything on the handlebars?

I just ordered my Gen3 lucky to get one up here in Canada for spring delivery and of course this is one mod that will be required. I am coming off a BMW K1600GT which I also did a riser on and it truly did make a huge difference on that bike. I am very curious and will be asking questions - hopefully no one gets short with me for asking

Just like @sixpack577 mentioned we are all in this together and if anyone would get "short" with your asking questions, they have no business being on an open forum and should stick to telling kids to get off their lawn.

Welcome to the forum and congrats on the bike when you get it...our very own @fallenarch had a K1600 if you want to talk about those with someone here...

 

[Vanishing Point]

@Cannonball Rides , on H.oRg ASK all Q you need THIS is One BIG

 

[Cannonball Rides]

Appreciate the welcome - thank you - I still wish to understand though if one merely removes bolts from underneath and lifts up to add in the riser and then puts bolts back in Need to understand as I am pretty sure my local dealer wont read any forums if I choose to have them install the risers.

I just visited Webike - OMG candy store for big boys ... Hey quick question any ideas what leather riding suit the guy is wearing in all of the Suzuki release videos for the Gen 3 - the Black with Gold accents? Thinking with xmas not far away I can put some idea's together for the wife

Great thank again, enjoy your day ...

 

[sixpack577]

That is basically how the risers install.
Maybe awkward to get to, but an otherwise simple job.

 

[fallenarch]

Forgive me - new lad here. I believe in all of the photos by removing the bolts from the bottom you were merely able to remove and roll forward or lift up the entire handlebar assembly and slide on the new and then bolt back up without having to disassemble anything on the handlebars?

I just ordered my Gen3 lucky to get one up here in Canada for spring delivery and of course this is one mod that will be required. I am coming off a BMW K1600GT which I also did a riser on and it truly did make a huge difference on that bike. I am very curious and will be asking questions - hopefully no one gets short with me for asking

I may get short with you if you bring up the BMW 1600GT. Man, I hated that bike! Haha

 

[fallenarch]

@Cannonball Rides these are my rides:

This is my current R1250 GS and Busa:

 

[Cannonball Rides]

You sir have the best of both I live in the country on just over 60 acres, when I'm not working I'm playing farmer, and if time permits I'm riding my bike or taking my car out. I hope to get bike out twice a month, as I get my car out once a month

 

[rvanevery]

Installed a 20mm riser from Moto-CNC. Pretty straight forward once you get the factory bolts out.

 

[Cannonball Rides]

Notable difference? I assume it brings the bars up but does it bring them back at all?

 

[rvanevery]

Notable difference? I assume it brings the bars up but does it bring them back at all?

These don't seem to directly alter reach as much as they do height. IIRC, the Helibars variant states to alter both height and reach but I'm unsure if the reach is simply a result of height+front suspension angle.

Regardless, the change is noticeable though I wouldn't want a taller spacer due to the aesthetic change--as it sits the upper tree is starting to look 'fat'.

 

[sixpack577]

Helibars have a step in them to raise the heigth, and the outside of the bars is higher than the inside.
They also slightly sweep back.
I had Heli-bars and .75" risers on my gen2 at one time. 1" risers with Heli-bars is too much for stock lines and the MC's will contact the inner windsheild.
1.5" riser was as tall as could be used by itself.
Given the gen3 uses the gen2 frame, and the gen3 bars sit supposedly only 12mm closer, bar combo set-ups on the gen3 should be very close to the gen2.

 

[Cannonball Rides]

Okay so with Riser at 20 mm or approx 3/4 of an inch and the revised factory setback of 12mm or 1/2 inch nothing will be required to be altered. The riding position is now much more relaxed with alteration completed? Was the juice worth the squeeze Has anyone lowered the pegs on the Gen 3 ? Anything special to worry about there? Configuration the same as the Gen 2 , parts from Gen 2 fit on Gen 3 or are we looking for a new option on that front as well?

 

[sixpack577]

Okay so with Riser at 20 mm or approx 3/4 of an inch and the revised factory setback of 12mm or 1/2 inch nothing will be required to be altered. The riding position is now much more relaxed with alteration completed? Was the juice worth the squeeze Has anyone lowered the pegs on the Gen 3 ? Anything special to worry about there? Configuration the same as the Gen 2 , parts from Gen 2 fit on Gen 3 or are we looking for a new option on that front as well?

I have no gen3 experience, but there is another thread here with a few gen3 guys confirming that gen2 Knight Design 1.5" lowering pegs(and their knock-offs)work well on the gen3.
As for how you may like the risers.
Sit on your bike, take your hands off the bars, make 2 fists, palms down, and rest your fingers on top of each grip.
Do you notice a difference in your body position? Is it more comfortable?
Is it worse?
That's the best ballpark way to know without actually trying them.
Put your hands in space where they would move to.
My comfortable vs your comfortable vs the next guys may be all in agreement, or completely different.
I went through multiple bar, seat, and peg combos on my gen2.
The gen3 is the same frame, and ergonomics are the same minus the small bar difference.

 

[Cannonball Rides]

Great intel thanks. I checked out Knights and they offer a 2" drop black anodized peg which is quite impressive. Will this create problems with lean and only more issues then warranted? The issue may be adjustment of all other levers associated with such an alteration. Shifter, brake etc. I assume the OEM builds for maximum efficiency and everytime you raise or lower additional considerations have to be taken.

 

[Cannonball Rides]

I just read this over in how is your gen 3, looks like it might be a wait and see as opposed to ordering parts ahead of time. Sounds like the riding position is possibly ideal factory?

"Comfort: handlebar and seat position has always been comfy for my size at 6'2". I may add a cut seat for racing but cruising around town I don't have any problems with the factory setup. If I were doing some hyper miles or cross country treks I'd probably recommend a heated or gel seat."

Another hurry up and wait scenario I guess in life. Gonna be a long winter waiting for it to arrive

 

[Bumblebee]

I just read this over in how is your gen 3, looks like it might be a wait and see as opposed to ordering parts ahead of time. Sounds like the riding position is possibly ideal factory?

"Comfort: handlebar and seat position has always been comfy for my size at 6'2". I may add a cut seat for racing but cruising around town I don't have any problems with the factory setup. If I were doing some hyper miles or cross country treks I'd probably recommend a heated or gel seat."

Another hurry up and wait scenario I guess in life. Gonna be a long winter waiting for it to arrive

I'd say almost every bike on this forum is set up slightly different for each rider...what works for one may not always work for another.

If you find your knees are bent too much, a set of drop pegs will help, with this will come the setting of the foot levers....it doesn't take too much time or effort to adjust those. Drop pegs are not miracle workers though and the very design of the bike has your knees bent quite a bit even with them but oddly enough the 1" drop I have is a big difference and doesn't affect cornering for me....the roads around here are not conducive to knee dragging regardless...

 

[BusaDawg1]

If you call knights design they will tell you the 2 inch drop pegs will interfere with shifter and brake lever from what other people that purchased for there gen 3 said, so I went with the 1 inch and I'm 6'3 and felt I nice difference from stock... with bar risers and gel insert in the seat its a match made in heaven. They didn't tell me they had a 1.5" inch drop peg so not sure on that one... I went with these because the platform was larger and more grip for my sz 14 boot and look on ebay you can get cheaper then msrp like I did.

 

[QFry]

Forgive me - new lad here. I believe in all of the photos by removing the bolts from the bottom you were merely able to remove and roll forward or lift up the entire handlebar assembly and slide on the new and then bolt back up without having to disassemble anything on the handlebars?

I just ordered my Gen3 lucky to get one up here in Canada for spring delivery and of course this is one mod that will be required. I am coming off a BMW K1600GT which I also did a riser on and it truly did make a huge difference on that bike. I am very curious and will be asking questions - hopefully no one gets short with me for asking

Sorry for late reply to this, yes. Besides the fairing pieces, all you have to do is remove the 4 bolts and lift up and forward on the handles themselves. Protect the ignition or you will cause cosmetic damage. But otherwise, nothing else needs to be lossened or removed.

 

[Miklos_HUN]

Stupid question: does the bar riser limit the handlebar movement? On the photos - and thank you for those! - it shows that when the handlebars appear to be turned to the extremes, they are almost touching the fairing/screen. Can the handlebars still be turned all the way to the left or right without obstruction?