Graduated Licence systems: your thoughts?

[Busacure]

Give me liberty or give me death!

Have we all gone mad? We are Americans, the government doesn't own or control anything, the people do (or at least we are supposed to). Do you want young people to be educated? Educate them! Make them go to school, be a good parent, stop asking the government to babysit your kids. I was driving a car when I was eight years old (back before I ever had a chance to become a rebellious teenager). If a cop were to have caught my dad letting me drive, he would have been in trouble, but by the time I was old enough to have a license, I was an experienced driver (and all with my dad sitting beside me, making me toe the line). When I got my first bike, I was 22 years old. Did that stop Dad from stepping in a giving me a lecture about needing to take it seriously and be careful? No.

There is a problem with inexperience and stupidity, but a change to the licensing structure is not going to fix the problem, only address a symptom. I have a good friend that has never ridden a bike, he just got back from Afghanistan with some money burning a hole in his pocket. Everyone tried to get him to start on a smaller bike, but he thinks he needs a liter bike. He went out and bought a CBR 1000. It is absolutely retarded for him to do that, and I hate the fact that he did, but should it be illegal for him to have done it? NO! He may kill himself, and I would hate it if he did, but he was willing to risk his life to defend freedom in the war, I suppose he can do the same on a bike.

We operate under the equity of the government. We are sovereign as living human beings but all our rights in society are really just privileges. Have you ever been ordered by the judicial branch to perform...jury duty, registration...When it is said "there go my rights" then those rights were just fluffed up privileges. Privileges can be taken away or regulated. The only rights we have are God given and often ignored in the commerce expressway and the everyday life. Bless

 

[jetsetter]

We operate under the equity of the government. We are sovereign as living human beings but all our rights in society are really just privileges. Have you ever been ordered by the judicial branch to perform...jury duty, registration...When it is said "there go my rights" then those rights were just fluffed up privileges. Privileges can be taken away or regulated. The only rights we have are God given and often ignored in the commerce expressway and the everyday life. Bless

This is the bill of rights (not the bill of privileges). They sure do use the word "right(s)" a lot, are you saying that's not what they really meant to say?

Amendments

* First Amendment – Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, Freedom of Religion, and of assembly; right to petition,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

* Second Amendment – Militia (United States), Sovereign state, Right to keep and bear arms.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. [5][6]

* Third Amendment – Protection from quartering of troops.

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

* Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

* Fifth Amendment – due process, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, eminent domain.

No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

* Sixth Amendment – Trial by jury and rights of the accused; Confrontation Clause, speedy trial, public trial, right to counsel

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

* Seventh Amendment – Civil trial by jury.

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

* Eighth Amendment – Prohibition of excessive bail and cruel and unusual punishment.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

* Ninth Amendment – Protection of rights not specifically enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

* Tenth Amendment – Powers of States and people.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

 

[tclause]

You can not legislate common sense. I believe it is advantageous to work your way up incrementally. however a knuckle head can kill themselves on anything including a bar of soap.