Harley Junk

Sputter said:
You can ride my 59 FLH, you have to come to South Dakota though. I will bring it to Cali next spring probably and you will be welcome to ride it.
I love my Harley's, an American icon! And I don't wear trendy clothing, I do wear leathers racing though and leather jacket if riding far.

As far as the wannabe troll hater goes? Gets on and starts bragging of how he knows shitzu and fung shwey and how he can beat everyone up! And then proceeded to say Harley riders are! How HE has a mans bike? Personally I have never seen any thing MAKE someone a MAN. It's WHO you are not what that makes a man. I will say one thing to you and only one. I AM CALLING YOU OUT!! A fat old man is calling you out! Bring a sack of money 10k minimum and your MANS bike to the track of your choice! Fontana, Irwindale, Willow springs ( I don't road race but I will) and we will see! Put up or shut up!!!! I will come to you!!! And for that matter I will use my stock factory street bike (may have an exhaust on it soon) or if you want to just do 1/4 mile I can use a HARLEY an acquaintance owns or my street bike?
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Your stock bike with exhaust... is that exhaust a turbo
 
airborneuph said:
Damn.. And I was going to ask who was taking side bets too..
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I grew up street racing Los Angeles 8-9 and 10 second bikes and cars almost 40 years ago , side bets are popular... I had my bike up in Northridge once where all the bike guys would hang out. They had to pass a cup around to get up $300.00 to race. Was a bad night for me, after going to a 2nd location the street was dusty and bike blew the tire off and I lost. Tail between my legs after busting their ass to even race me. :banghead:
 
Different folks different strokes. I sold my Harley, but enjoyed it while I had it. A Harley is not about technology, performance, or handling. Anyone looking for that can get a better bike buying 1980 Japanese iron. But if you want to join the Harley crowd, or you don't ever intend riding above 100mph but rather stick to posted limits, they can be fun. The company is shrinking, albeit still more sales than anyone else. For the average Joe, a Haybusa belongs to someone who is totally nuts, that being us guys and girls. We are not average.
 
WuzzaCBXRider said:
They’re asking over 21K for this 1,868cc 90hp 668 pound twin with a 68.4” wheelbase. CF fenders, solo seat, aluminum swing arm and bars are not the usual Harley parts. Isn’t that wheelbase a tad long?

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/...tail/fxdr-114/detailed-specs-and-pricing.html
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This is supposed to be the “New Performance” model of their revamped Softail line. I don’t think it’s worth $21 grand !!!! With that being said I must say it’s pretty sharp looking bike in person. Harley has made some strides towards making a more modern bike but they still aren’t there yet.

They should’ve priced this bike about $6-7k cheaper and they’d probably sell a ton of them. It would be closer to the Indian Scouts and cheaper than than Xdiavel. That $21k price tag is a major chunk of change and your not getting your moneys worth...... Too expensive for young riders looking for a Harley and Older riders who have the money would rather spend it on a “Bagger”. So I really don’t see which age demographic they were shooting for with this 1??
 
Yeah but both bikes side bye side your eyes will keep going back to the Harley. I’ve seen both in person and sat on em. Looks wise the Harley looks the part and checks all the boxes. The Indians still lack the fit n finish Harley’s have that sets them apart from the metric bikes. There’s still too much of a plastic cheap look to the Indians.

They are headed in the right direction and I hope they clean it up a bit with that new FTR1200 they got coming out next year. That’s on my shortlist of bikes I’m looking to add 2 my stable
 
1busa said:
This is supposed to be the “New Performance” model of their revamped Softail line. I don’t think it’s worth $21 grand !!!! With that being said I must say it’s pretty sharp looking bike in person. Harley has made some strides towards making a more modern bike but they still aren’t there yet.

They should’ve priced this bike about $6-7k cheaper and they’d probably sell a ton of them. It would be closer to the Indian Scouts and cheaper than than Xdiavel. That $21k price tag is a major chunk of change and your not getting your moneys worth...... Too expensive for young riders looking for a Harley and Older riders who have the money would rather spend it on a “Bagger”. So I really don’t see which age demographic they were shooting for with this 1??
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I don't see them not selling! 21 k is entry level for Harley's heavy bikes and they sell like hot cakes. The entry levels are Sportsters, the 750 and 500. I don't see price being an issue so far since a sub 20k heavy hasn't been in the line for some time. I think the issue may be if they alienate some more base Harley owners with China parts. I THINK I have bought my last Harley on that alone. I currently own 4. My last purchase was 100% Italian. I go out of my way to not buy cheap China junk and it hurts my wallet but it is what it is. I don't buy Levi's either! LOL. I am just a regular hard working blue collar, but I wait and save if I have to, so I can do what I believe to be the right thing. But I believe there are folks like myself that enjoy doing their part.
 
The Softail and former Dyna model lineup all came in around the $15-16k mark. Even the Vrod lineup was priced around that amount. Starting out @ $21k before tax tag title and accessories is gonna have that bike costing $25 GRAND.......

Sorry but That’s not entry level that’s out of the price range for most younger riders. Most of the older guys on the Harley forums and Vlogs hate the look of this bike. So the young guys can’t afford it and the old guys want nothing to do with it. Like I said just my opinion but i just don’t see them selling like hot cakes. Could be wrong but there’s a reason why that Dyna Lowrider S flew out the dealerships. Biggest motor available @ the time on the smallest bike for under $20k
 
I don't know about the Softails? My Basic Fatboy in 2014 was just shy of 20k on the tag and after the goodies pushing 25k. That's 4 years ago. The Dynas sold well because of the Sons of Anarchy movies, most Dynas have the funky bars and fairing. Similar to the Italian bikes, the kids buy the smaller and more inexpensive bikes. I don't think higher end items should market to kids, keep your share by being better (Nordstrom). Maybe I am wrong? I like exclusivity, I prefer things that are quality9
 
Sputter said:
I don't know about the Softails? My Basic Fatboy in 2014 was just shy of 20k on the tag and after the goodies pushing 25k. That's 4 years ago. The Dynas sold well because of the Sons of Anarchy movies, most Dynas have the funky bars and fairing. Similar to the Italian bikes, the kids buy the smaller and more inexpensive bikes. I don't think higher end items should market to kids, keep your share by being better (Nordstrom). Maybe I am wrong? I like exclusivity, I prefer things that are quality9
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chrome doesn't necessarily equate to quality.
 
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