I have questions,maybe you have answers. George Floyd & Karma

Lol I had the same look. I remember though, in the 70's in Los Angeles, we would joke that whoever had Dwayne in his car better behave, because Dwayne is black. It's never been a level playing field, and that's what Colin Kaepernick for example, has tried to bring to everyone's attention.

Everyone was up in arms when he took a knee during the anthem...I can see why but in reality, where else could he protest..?? If he took a knee anywhere else people would just raise an eyebrow at him...

People fought and died so he could do exactly what he did....some of those same people got treated like second class citizens in the process..
 
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Mr Brown,
I have much respect for you and your sense of participation we as Americans should have. So please don't take anything I am about to propose as disrespectful to you. Let me next state that I whole heatedly support the prosecution of ALL those officers that murdered Floyd. I also hope the Chief of Police of that dept gets at the least investigated for fostering the Use Of Force policies as well as allowing the employment of an officer that has a clear record of problems.

Now then

Myself as a white American, and all whites that I associate with are not trying to stop the cause of unfair treatment of the black race. Where it exist, it needs to be dealt with.

So.

This current uprising and justification for riots, looting, killing of totally innocent bystanders and destruction of the economist engines that fed, clothed and helped support their communities.businesses owned by members of their own race, are done so in the name of Floyd. We've watched weeks of them now. Despite the request of the Floyd family that they don't. We have watched hours of his memorial services on every channel and run on repeat for about 18 hours give or take. BLM, ANTIFA, etc gaining momentum by all of it. Your portrayal of athletes etc all with their banners. For a man that has been essentially a life long criminal. Multiple convictions, multiple jail times served. Including an armed home invasion of a pregnant woman whereby he held a gun to her stomach threatening to kill her unborn baby. That woman is still alive today. Her neighbor managed to call 911 resulting in his arrest where he was found to be guilty of that crime. With not one, but two autopsies that showed he had drugs in his system the night of his death. Easy to find these references if you feel I'm being unfair in my assessments.

So these efforts are giving Floyd a place in history as a Martyr. This will be in history books, movies and archives forever. He has a place being depicted as a symbol of a wonderful black man senselessly taken by a white officer. So far there has been little, if any mention by the media that he was accompanied by other officers that were not white and they made no efforts to stop his murder. It is being depicted as a white officer killing a fine upstanding symbol of your race. And there will be no mention of Floyd being a career criminal. Floyd a representative of the BLM movement. A movement that during this particular riot, killed a retired 77 year old black police officer that served 38 years protecting and serving the black community. A good man, a good father, a good grandfather a good leader in his community. Taken from the family and community he served for his entire life, in the name of a career criminal. Where is his memorial service in your community? Will they even have one? Where is his place in the "cause" of the BLM? Where is that outrage? Where is that call for change in conduct? This has been a fundamental question your white fellow citizens struggle with. This is not the first of these riots. Or the first of the BLM etc we have witnessed.

I wonder how the woman who now has a child that was nearly taken before it was born at the hands of Floyd, feels as she watches the hours of coverage that we have just outlined. How she views this movement? This cause? This community? Now lets move on to the children in your community that are watching this unfold. Perhaps even your own children. With those athletes that are supposed to be people they look up to. How will they model their outlook on how to live from the BLM, and these riots, and those athletes that support their "cause"?

On May 25th, 2020, one man's life was needlessly taken. How many more people have been murdered as a result of these riots that stem from the loss of a life they claim to be protesting being taken? How can any kid ever manage to work out why a 77 year old retired black peace officer that devoted his entire life to helping their community get marginalized, and have a healthy grasp of what is "right" and what is "wrong"? And athletes that support the organizations responsible for killing him.? And the history that will reflect how not only BLM, but their political leaders, and even their fathers or grandfathers choose to idolize as "good" a man named George Floyd? Instead of a 77 year old black man that tried to stand in the way of the looters to protect a pawn shop that put food on their table.

Instead their history teachings will teach them to pick a man that nobody should be using as an example of good., and idolizes the cause that took him?

If we in the white community pose these questions to the black community, we hear we are insensitive to the oppression (how oppressed was the 77 year old black cop?), we are "privileged", we are racist or the standard laundry list of defamatory responses. So instead we ask ourselves these questions and wonder how does your race work out these things out so that kids don't want to grow up idolizing career criminals as good and not giving a place in history to a cop that was nothing but a champion for their community go largely unmentioned if at all?

We as a nation need to have these dialogs. We as a nation can't function as a nation if we have complete loss of commonly shared ideals about right and wrong, good and evil, honorable and abhorrent. Value of a career criminals life vs the value of the life of someone who spends their entire life protecting them from them.
 
TallTom, demeaning police because of one idiot like Chauvin is the same as demeaning everyone of a race because of one example. Demean is the wrong word. Not caring enough to examine is closer to the truth. All lives matter; that’s obvious. Black lives matter needs said over and over until EVERYONE gets it because history shows us that it’s not as obvious to everyone as it absolutely has to be. Anybody denying that is lying to themselves.
 
I don't agree with all of that @rubbersidedown . It actually is our right in many cases they just take them away because they have the power too and the people allow it to happen. But you are right that the people here are doing pretty well with this. I love you man! Lol
Its every ones right to do pretty much whatever they want when they want.There does come a time when the elected powers that be have to step in and say stop,for the common good.If that stance is not taken then what do you have...total anarchy.Is that what every one wants? The old man...turn around and go home. Live to fight another day in a peaceful way.
There are laws for a reason.There has to be.If you don't like those laws then feel free to break them and suffer the consequences.Every one has personal choice. Its a very slow process to turn things around,to turn them from what any group see's as wrong doing to what they see as right.You have to go about it in a way that is not harmful to people,especially the innocent bystander.Althou his treatment was harsh,he chose it.Those that are tasked with the challenge of stopping civil disobedience are going to make mistakes. They will make them today,tomorrow and till the end of time. Why confront them in the street when you don't have to. You are not challenging the law maker...you are just challenging an' elected law enforcer.

Can't people just think for 1 second...

Is this a good idea? Or a bad one?

Go home,sit on the couch with friends and loved ones,have a nice day.
OR....go out and get in the face of a person who is doing a tuff job.Maybe he's undertrained.Maybe he's having a bad day.Maybe he's an azzhole.
Home with friends and fam....out in the street.The decission in yours.
Fallen my brother
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,this isn't taking away any one's right to protest,just the way in which they do it.
Rubb.
 
Its every ones right to do pretty much whatever they want when they want.There does come a time when the elected powers that be have to step in and say stop,for the common good.If that stance is not taken then what do you have...total anarchy.Is that what every one wants? The old man...turn around and go home. Live to fight another day in a peaceful way.
There are laws for a reason.There has to be.If you don't like those laws then feel free to break them and suffer the consequences.Every one has personal choice. Its a very slow process to turn things around,to turn them from what any group see's as wrong doing to what they see as right.You have to go about it in a way that is not harmful to people,especially the innocent bystander.Althou his treatment was harsh,he chose it.Those that are tasked with the challenge of stopping civil disobedience are going to make mistakes. They will make them today,tomorrow and till the end of time. Why confront them in the street when you don't have to. You are not challenging the law maker...you are just challenging an' elected law enforcer.

Can't people just think for 1 second...

Is this a good idea? Or a bad one?

Go home,sit on the couch with friends and loved ones,have a nice day.
OR....go out and get in the face of a person who is doing a tuff job.Maybe he's undertrained.Maybe he's having a bad day.Maybe he's an azzhole.
Home with friends and fam....out in the street.The decission in yours.
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,this isn't taking away any one's right to protest,just the way in which they do it.
Rubb.
Those laws need to apply to everyone, including the police. Otherwise you have apartheid. I keep hearing you people say be quiet and stop protesting so us white people can enjoy life on the plantation. Not going to fly this time bro.
 
Those laws need to apply to everyone, including the police. Otherwise you have apartheid. I keep hearing you people say be quiet and stop protesting so us white people can enjoy life on the plantation. Not going to fly this time bro.
Your over doing a bit man. I hear you on all that ^ but it's a way bit from the couple topics being discussed at the moment. Protest YES. But follow the rules of peaceful protest.
If you turn to leave when asked to..."chances" are you won't have to leave in a body bag. The cops don't dress up at home,drive to a location in the family mini van and pick a fight. They are sent there.They show up to the precinct,get informed,supposedly and off they go. Ample oportunity for even the brick throwers to pack up and GO HOME.
Isn't that what it should be all about...a peaceful protest...then every body gets to go home.
I like my approach...it has NO DOWNSIDE for anybody.
Peaceful demonstration...everybody home in time for dinner...
Guess I'm the stoopid one. Maybe we will see those even more stoopid than me on the news tonight. GLWS on this one.
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Until we start referring to all people as part of the HUMAN RACE, we will never resolve this issue of racial discrimination...there is far too much reference to this race or that race but we are all part of one race. Everyone has to accept this and move forward, oppression should be a word of the past, until it is, nothing will be sorted out.

The people protesting and are making their point are all fine and dandy, the others using the protests to spread hate, destruction, chaos and mayhem have undone all the others have achieved and are now only pissing off regular folk.

These protests will either have a positive effect bringing people of all races closer or go to a negative way and create a larger racial divide...time will only tell.
 
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Mr Brown,
I have much respect for you and your sense of participation we as Americans should have. So please don't take anything I am about to propose as disrespectful to you. Let me next state that I whole heatedly support the prosecution of ALL those officers that murdered Floyd. I also hope the Chief of Police of that dept gets at the least investigated for fostering the Use Of Force policies as well as allowing the employment of an officer that has a clear record of problems.

Now then

Myself as a white American, and all whites that I associate with are not trying to stop the cause of unfair treatment of the black race. Where it exist, it needs to be dealt with.

So.

This current uprising and justification for riots, looting, killing of totally innocent bystanders and destruction of the economist engines that fed, clothed and helped support their communities.businesses owned by members of their own race, are done so in the name of Floyd. We've watched weeks of them now. Despite the request of the Floyd family that they don't. We have watched hours of his memorial services on every channel and run on repeat for about 18 hours give or take. BLM, ANTIFA, etc gaining momentum by all of it. Your portrayal of athletes etc all with their banners. For a man that has been essentially a life long criminal. Multiple convictions, multiple jail times served. Including an armed home invasion of a pregnant woman whereby he held a gun to her stomach threatening to kill her unborn baby. That woman is still alive today. Her neighbor managed to call 911 resulting in his arrest where he was found to be guilty of that crime. With not one, but two autopsies that showed he had drugs in his system the night of his death. Easy to find these references if you feel I'm being unfair in my assessments.

So these efforts are giving Floyd a place in history as a Martyr. This will be in history books, movies and archives forever. He has a place being depicted as a symbol of a wonderful black man senselessly taken by a white officer. So far there has been little, if any mention by the media that he was accompanied by other officers that were not white and they made no efforts to stop his murder. It is being depicted as a white officer killing a fine upstanding symbol of your race. And there will be no mention of Floyd being a career criminal. Floyd a representative of the BLM movement. A movement that during this particular riot, killed a retired 77 year old black police officer that served 38 years protecting and serving the black community. A good man, a good father, a good grandfather a good leader in his community. Taken from the family and community he served for his entire life, in the name of a career criminal. Where is his memorial service in your community? Will they even have one? Where is his place in the "cause" of the BLM? Where is that outrage? Where is that call for change in conduct? This has been a fundamental question your white fellow citizens struggle with. This is not the first of these riots. Or the first of the BLM etc we have witnessed.

I wonder how the woman who now has a child that was nearly taken before it was born at the hands of Floyd, feels as she watches the hours of coverage that we have just outlined. How she views this movement? This cause? This community? Now lets move on to the children in your community that are watching this unfold. Perhaps even your own children. With those athletes that are supposed to be people they look up to. How will they model their outlook on how to live from the BLM, and these riots, and those athletes that support their "cause"?

On May 25th, 2020, one man's life was needlessly taken. How many more people have been murdered as a result of these riots that stem from the loss of a life they claim to be protesting being taken? How can any kid ever manage to work out why a 77 year old retired black peace officer that devoted his entire life to helping their community get marginalized, and have a healthy grasp of what is "right" and what is "wrong"? And athletes that support the organizations responsible for killing him.? And the history that will reflect how not only BLM, but their political leaders, and even their fathers or grandfathers choose to idolize as "good" a man named George Floyd? Instead of a 77 year old black man that tried to stand in the way of the looters to protect a pawn shop that put food on their table.

Instead their history teachings will teach them to pick a man that nobody should be using as an example of good., and idolizes the cause that took him?

If we in the white community pose these questions to the black community, we hear we are insensitive to the oppression (how oppressed was the 77 year old black cop?), we are "privileged", we are racist or the standard laundry list of defamatory responses. So instead we ask ourselves these questions and wonder how does your race work out these things out so that kids don't want to grow up idolizing career criminals as good and not giving a place in history to a cop that was nothing but a champion for their community go largely unmentioned if at all?

We as a nation need to have these dialogs. We as a nation can't function as a nation if we have complete loss of commonly shared ideals about right and wrong, good and evil, honorable and abhorrent. Value of a career criminals life vs the value of the life of someone who spends their entire life protecting them from them.
It's not about Floyd as a person, it never was. It's about what his death represents. That a police officer looks right at the camera as he kneels on Floyd's neck, hand in pocket, casually extinguishing his life is a powerful statement, not about the individual, but about the system. The people who killed the 77 year old black man weren't acting with the authority of the state, but those responsible for Floyd's death absolutely were. To view this outside of it's social and historical context misses the point, actions such as those of Chauvin and the other officers in Minnesota are visited on black men far more often than white men. The evidence supporting this is readily available, one can choose to accept it as legitimate, or not. There is debate as to why it happens, with divisions largely along the lines of political ideology, but that is a separate conversation.

Application of Constitutional rights in this country should not be dependant on how good or nice a person is, what color their skin is, how old they are, which god they do or do not worship, who they love, what their hobbies are, where they live, what they drive, etc. Life and liberty are two fundamental rights which are guaranteed by the Constitution, and through practice are not applied equally across racial lines. Thus, black folk have been crying out for the equal treatment promised by the Constitution since 1865, but still it remains elusive.

Using terms like "your race" and "our race" implies fundamental differences between groups for which there is no biological basis, and allows a foundation for racial stratification. With stratification comes unequal distribution of resources, and when these resources are the means by which people have the ability to improve their lives, systemic disadvantage follows. As I've said to you on previous occasions, any way you want to look at who is advantaged in this country, the scales tip in favor of white folks. It's incredibly frustrating for people who are acutely aware of their being on the short end to be informed that not only is that not the case, but that they are disrespectful or ungrateful for pointing it out. If white privilege doesn't exist, why do people work so effing hard to hold on to it? Privilege of any type isn't something to be ashamed of, you didn't ask for it, but for crying out loud, if you're not going to use it to enact meaningful change, at least acknowledge that it exists. Everyone in the entire world recognizes that white folk in America have privilege, with the exception of some white Americans. Those folk will go through some pretty incredible mental gymnastics to keep trying to deny what everyone else plainly sees, it can get rather comical.

Regarding your question about heroes in the black community, when people are made aware of the significance of their racial differences, and all they are taught about in their formal education is white American heroes, whilst constantly being bombarded with negative images of people who look like them, does it honestly surprise you that many black kids pick some really poor examples to look up to? Not coincidentally many of the"heroes" all kids are taught about in school were not good people, history just overlooks their shortcomings. Many of the founding fathers owned slaves for example, and that's glossed over as just the way things were. As if there could be justification for owning another human being as property.

You use the term commonly shared ideals, while implying earlier in your post that black and white ideals are different, and that's interesting. Do you think that black parents teach their kids different values? Have different morals? Desire different outcomes? If so, is that because they're black?
 
I'm not paranoid about this stuff. I have a lot of friends and family that have horror stories to tell. I have personally been evry lucky. Only a couple bad encounters in 58 years. I have a completely clean record though and have to keep it for my job.
Not saying it’s not about race I’m sure there is a percentage where it is. I have a black friend he was telling me a story about how he got pulled over speeding and when the cop saw he had a perm to carry the cop pulled a gun on him. He knew the cops name he was actually in the news locally. The same cop about 6 years earlier was a town cop 2 towns away from where I lived. Just outside of town 20 miles from where he was a cop policed. Me and my friend were walking back to my truck pheasant hunting. See this car slam on its brakes a guy jumps out of passenger seat of car pointing a hand gun at us running up on us. We both had shotguns in our hands me and my friend looked at each other as this guy was screaming at us to put our guns down we didn’t then the guy flashed a badge at us so we did. Still pointing a gun at us he walked up and started asking us what we were doing and tried telling us we couldn’t. Lucky we didn’t get shot or shoot him. But it comes down to shitty cops are shitty cops and don’t matter who you are they want to show the world how big their bobo is.

I would love to hear policy proposals that would fix this other than just hearing cops are bad. I have 2 f
 
It's not about Floyd as a person, it never was. It's about what his death represents. That a police officer looks right at the camera as he kneels on Floyd's neck, hand in pocket, casually extinguishing his life is a powerful statement, not about the individual, but about the system. The people who killed the 77 year old black man weren't acting with the authority of the state, but those responsible for Floyd's death absolutely were. To view this outside of it's social and historical context misses the point, actions such as those of Chauvin and the other officers in Minnesota are visited on black men far more often than white men. The evidence supporting this is readily available, one can choose to accept it as legitimate, or not. There is debate as to why it happens, with divisions largely along the lines of political ideology, but that is a separate conversation.

Application of Constitutional rights in this country should not be dependant on how good or nice a person is, what color their skin is, how old they are, which god they do or do not worship, who they love, what their hobbies are, where they live, what they drive, etc. Life and liberty are two fundamental rights which are guaranteed by the Constitution, and through practice are not applied equally across racial lines. Thus, black folk have been crying out for the equal treatment promised by the Constitution since 1865, but still it remains elusive.

Using terms like "your race" and "our race" implies fundamental differences between groups for which there is no biological basis, and allows a foundation for racial stratification. With stratification comes unequal distribution of resources, and when these resources are the means by which people have the ability to improve their lives, systemic disadvantage follows. As I've said to you on previous occasions, any way you want to look at who is advantaged in this country, the scales tip in favor of white folks. It's incredibly frustrating for people who are acutely aware of their being on the short end to be informed that not only is that not the case, but that they are disrespectful or ungrateful for pointing it out. If white privilege doesn't exist, why do people work so effing hard to hold on to it? Privilege of any type isn't something to be ashamed of, you didn't ask for it, but for crying out loud, if you're not going to use it to enact meaningful change, at least acknowledge that it exists. Everyone in the entire world recognizes that white folk in America have privilege, with the exception of some white Americans. Those folk will go through some pretty incredible mental gymnastics to keep trying to deny what everyone else plainly sees, it can get rather comical.

Regarding your question about heroes in the black community, when people are made aware of the significance of their racial differences, and all they are taught about in their formal education is white American heroes, whilst constantly being bombarded with negative images of people who look like them, does it honestly surprise you that many black kids pick some really poor examples to look up to? Not coincidentally many of the"heroes" all kids are taught about in school were not good people, history just overlooks their shortcomings. Many of the founding fathers owned slaves for example, and that's glossed over as just the way things were. As if there could be justification for owning another human being as property.

You use the term commonly shared ideals, while implying earlier in your post that black and white ideals are different, and that's interesting. Do you think that black parents teach their kids different values? Have different morals? Desire different outcomes? If so, is that because they're black?
So I will state again in one line that Floyd should not have been killed.

Your 4 paragraphs about the Constitutional Rights were never in dispute. They fill a good bit of space but dismiss the questions.

I still don't see a response to the core of the question. The martyring of a career criminal, and the marginalization of the destruction of and murders of the very community that served them, by an organization being nationally supported.

And I will concede a fair point you made. There are white people that support the ideology of the BLM. To that point you are very correct. And I will state that my portion of my race that I must acknowledge I am a part of is totally disgusted by them. I absolutely made a mistake in assuming it's just one race that support BLM. I feel just as concerned for what they teach their children. And I will admit I don't personally know any so I don't have any to ask. I forgot they are actually are part of my race. I am profoundly ashamed by the fact that they are.

You make another fair point. This is about politics. I didn't want to go there because I care more about the racial problems. But you are correct. This is about the politics of race. I should not have tried to make just your race that has to answer difficult questions. The same questions can be asked of anyone that supports this current state of riot justifications. I don't know anyone besides you that correlates BLM with peaceful protest but as the media shows us there are whites in your support. I totally was blind to that. The only time I see it is on TV. I also find myself wondering why nobody knows the name Tony Timpa. No protest, no riots. No murdering of citizens in his name. You could have answered my entire line of questioning in one word.

POLITICS.
 
My response to your core question was first and foremost: The person isn't the issue. Constitutional rights are not applied equally, thus my explanation.Your failing to grasp that is part of the problem. It's not me dismissing the question, it's just that you don't like the answer. Another part of ithe problem is your assuming that all black people support BLM, that's simply not true. Third, to say that all BLM support is violent is akin to saying all members or supporters of any group are. Since you don't know anyone else who thinks BLM can be peaceful perhaps you're not asking the right people... There are plenty of readily available examples of protests which did not devolve into widespread violence. It's not a coincidence that in the vast majority of these law enforcement met (in some cases joined) the protestors to reinforce their disgust with what sparked all of this. Fourth is your focus on politics, racial or otherwise. Again, that's a division tactic, not an issue.

You keep coming back to "our" race (whites) vs "your" race (blacks) so please, answer me this: what places a person into either category? Since you feel it important to note that you see a difference, what does that difference entail?

I'm not making the argument that Floyd was a good person, I don't think he was a martyr, I am aware he was a flawed individual. It's not about the man. I don't know how many more times or ways I can say that. His treatment at the hand of power is bring used to bring a larger institutional problem into sharper focus. Too bad the police didn't choose the correct victim to arouse your sympathy, I'm sure they'll do better next time.
 
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Murder plain and simple,other crimes r no part of it,counterfeit bill for death?

Around 20 min mark...cop killed George to cover the cops involvement in fake bill

 
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Not saying it’s not about race I’m sure there is a percentage where it is. I have a black friend he was telling me a story about how he got pulled over speeding and when the cop saw he had a perm to carry the cop pulled a gun on him. He knew the cops name he was actually in the news locally. The same cop about 6 years earlier was a town cop 2 towns away from where I lived. Just outside of town 20 miles from where he was a cop policed. Me and my friend were walking back to my truck pheasant hunting. See this car slam on its brakes a guy jumps out of passenger seat of car pointing a hand gun at us running up on us. We both had shotguns in our hands me and my friend looked at each other as this guy was screaming at us to put our guns down we didn’t then the guy flashed a badge at us so we did. Still pointing a gun at us he walked up and started asking us what we were doing and tried telling us we couldn’t. Lucky we didn’t get shot or shoot him. But it comes down to shitty cops are shitty cops and don’t matter who you are they want to show the world how big their bobo is.

I would love to hear policy proposals that would fix this other than just hearing cops are bad. I have 2 f
Cops aren't bad. Like any profession there are bobos that shouldn't be there. How many deaths are attributed to bad doctor's each year? Should we burn down the hospitals?

How many million people are there in America? How many people were killed by cops? Far less than by doctors that should not be doctors. I don't how many millions unless I look it up. But I'd eager the % killed by cops in a year is in the decimal % fraction of 1%.

Politics would have us believe that white racist cops are tracking down black people in hopes they can kill them.
 
My response to your core question was first and foremost: The person isn't the issue. Constitutional rights are not applied equally, thus my explanation.Your failing to grasp that is part of the problem. It's not me dismissing the question, it's just that you don't like the answer. Another part of ithe problem is your assuming that all black people support BLM, that's simply not true. Third, to say that all BLM support is violent is akin to saying all members or supporters of any group are. Since you don't know anyone else who thinks BLM can be peaceful perhaps you're not asking the right people... There are plenty of readily available examples of protests which did not devolve into widespread violence. It's not a coincidence that in the vast majority of these law enforcement met (in some cases joined) the protestors to reinforce their disgust with what sparked all of this. Fourth is your focus on politics, racial or otherwise. Again, that's a division tactic, not an issue.

You keep coming back to "our" race (whites) vs "your" race (blacks) so please, answer me this: what places a person into either category? Since you feel it important to note that you see a difference, what does that difference entail?

I'm not making the argument that Floyd was a good person, I don't think he was a martyr, I am aware he was a flawed individual. It's not about the man. I don't know how many more times or ways I can say that. His treatment at the hand of power is bring used to bring a larger institutional problem into sharper focus. Too bad the police didn't choose the correct victim to arouse your sympathy, I'm sure they'll do better next time.
You mean like Tony Timpa? How was his death any different in your eyes? Maybe BLM can rename themselves WLM on his behalf. That wouldn't be racist would it?
 
Cops aren't bad. Like any profession there are bobos that shouldn't be there. How many deaths are attributed to bad doctor's each year? Should we burn down the hospitals?

How many million people are there in America? How many people were killed by cops? Far less than by doctors that should not be doctors. I don't how many millions unless I look it up. But I'd eager the % killed by cops in a year is in the decimal % fraction of 1%.

Politics would have us believe that white racist cops are tracking down black people in hopes they can kill them.
Jesus you're working hard to find a way out. No, racist cops don't track down black people in hopes that they can kill them. But evidence shows that cops have contact with, and use violence against black people more frequently, and black people die at the hands of police more frequently. Why is that so difficult for you to accept? If I told you that there were more apples on the ground in the apple orchard than there were in a parking lot, you wouldn't deny that would you? It would make sense right? More apples are a result of more apple trees in the vicinity.
 
You mean like Tony Timpa? How was his death any different in your eyes? Maybe BLM can rename themselves WLM on his behalf. That wouldn't be racist would it?
You're trying so hard not to understand this, it's funny. You gotta be exhausted!
As always, I can keep explaining it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
 
Not saying it’s not about race I’m sure there is a percentage where it is. I have a black friend he was telling me a story about how he got pulled over speeding and when the cop saw he had a perm to carry the cop pulled a gun on him. He knew the cops name he was actually in the news locally. The same cop about 6 years earlier was a town cop 2 towns away from where I lived. Just outside of town 20 miles from where he was a cop policed. Me and my friend were walking back to my truck pheasant hunting. See this car slam on its brakes a guy jumps out of passenger seat of car pointing a hand gun at us running up on us. We both had shotguns in our hands me and my friend looked at each other as this guy was screaming at us to put our guns down we didn’t then the guy flashed a badge at us so we did. Still pointing a gun at us he walked up and started asking us what we were doing and tried telling us we couldn’t. Lucky we didn’t get shot or shoot him. But it comes down to shitty cops are shitty cops and don’t matter who you are they want to show the world how big their bobo is.

I would love to hear policy proposals that would fix this other than just hearing cops are bad. I have 2 f
The problem isn't going to be fixed by policies. The Christopher commission in Los Angeles was designed to do that, LAPD successfully maneuvered around every change it made.
Non-police oversight would be a good first step.
 
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