I have questions,maybe you have answers. George Floyd & Karma

READ THAT AGAIN: "Garage door rope fashioned as a noose". Why would someone make a noose out of the garage door rope? Bubba did not see the noose or report it according to the news report. It was seen by someone on the team and reported to NASCAR.

This goes to my earlier post where NASCAR was looking for a way to make a statement and took this opportunity. Still, any deception in a situation like this is not helpful.
I also found it odd that anyone would make a garage door rope into a noose. I thought it was the rope on the catch release mechanism for an electric door opener though. Apparently there are no door openers and this was actually the rope they used to pull the door down by hand. In that case, it makes sense to put a loop at the end. It may not be a noose at all, just a loop.

FURTHER ---ALL THE DOORS AT THE TRACK HAVE THE SAME ROPE WITH A LOOP AT THE END. <<<That's for everyone because looks like we're still talking about this one garage door rope being tied in a noose. It's just the way they did all of them.

I wonder if the FBI and NASCAR agreed to leave well enough alone and drop the questions?

I think so. People are hyper vigilant about hate crimes now.

Sad story from my old home of Milwaukee. A house used for sex trafficking of young women was burned down by the people of the community. At least a couple girls were rescued but it appears the suspects escaped because of slow police response. All the evidence was probably destroyed in the blaze. All this unrest and burning is not really helping the black lives that need the most help.
 
You are mistaken.

I don't believe that I am. The more hatred and rage against non-blacks that is generated within the group, the stronger the real racism within the movement grows. The racism against whites in this case is the driving force. This is all about hate and control now. It's not about building up black lives, it's about tearing apart white ones.

Pure hypocrisy.

Explain exactly why a statue of Abraham Lincoln needs to be taken down to support BLM. I'm all ears.
 
Explain exactly why a statue of Abraham Lincoln needs to be taken down to support BLM. I'm all ears.
“I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races.
…I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office…there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality"
Abraham Lincoln, Charleston Illinois, 1858

Make no mistake, Lincoln's freeing slaves was done out of political expediency, not moral certainty. He made his thoughts and beliefs about blacks very clear in his writing and speaking.
 
And with the statue gone, so goes the history of the man? With the history gone, how can future generations learn from it?

We need reminders of our past transgressions in order to not make the same mistakes again. Look at the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum for example.

This movement seems to believe that erasing history will change the present but unless you have access to a time machine, that's impossible. We can only craft our future and we need the knowledge from the past to guide us.

From the mindset of a parent, I can honestly say that my daughter is much more likely to get what she wants if she logically states her case and then asks for it. Any emotional temper-tantrum gets shut down immediately and she absolutely doesn't get what she wants. Through experience, she is learning this.

No reasonable person wants to try to work with the hysterical. BLM is acting against their claimed goal in their hysterics, assuming the goal they claim to be working towards is their truthful one. Who really knows anymore? Who can you trust to tell the truth?

I'm starting to miss Covid-19......
 
I don't believe that I am. The more hatred and rage against non-blacks that is generated within the group, the stronger the real racism within the movement grows. The racism against whites in this case is the driving force. This is all about hate and control now. It's not about building up black lives, it's about tearing apart white ones.

Pure hypocrisy.

Explain exactly why a statue of Abraham Lincoln needs to be taken down to support BLM. I'm all ears.
It's not "to support BLM". It is to correct the false history on display all around the country. Obviously, this is a difficult thing to do as a mob, it needs to be a deliberate and thoughtful effort. Personally I am against removing statues that represent historical vents that were moral or not, just be honest and balanced. However, I fully support removal of statues placed for the purpose of celebrating racism and furthering oppression of any race of Americans.
 
You're still concentrating on what's happening within your borders. The big picture is happening outside of them.

Blacks vs. whites won't mean a thing when Islam comes knocking. They hate all Infidels equally. Don't think it won't happen here? Look at Europe today. Bad days ahead.
 
It looks like there are differing opinions on whether or not the Civil War was about ending slavery or not. Without doing an indepth study, I would say it probably wasn't. Regardless, the slaves were freed and their descendants are far from being slaves even if they are not equal to every other race in America today. We've already discussed the reason for that. It's unfair to all black people but the crime statistics racked up by some are real.

Why tear sh- up instead of creating what you want? Why not build more monuments dedicated to black achievement and equality? They already exist but there's room for more. Society is built on creating, not destroying.

Would this be happening if liberals were happy with their President? No. This would never have happened under Obama. The underlying purpose of the whole movement is to prevent Trump from being reelected. It's a protest against Trump. Very few people are thinking much about black lives anymore.

What exactly do these people (protestors of all colors) want if they can't create it on their own? What do they expect to be done so they will stop their rioting? I've heard there are lists of demands but why have we not heard them? It's because the real reason they're rioting is that they want Trump to go away. How many people in those crowds do you think are Trump supporters? Virtually none, I'll wager.

If this continues until November and Trump is not reelected, watch the riots stop. Just watch.
 
It looks like there are differing opinions on whether or not the Civil War was about ending slavery or not. Without doing an indepth study, I would say it probably wasn't. Regardless, the slaves were freed and their descendants are far from being slaves even if they are not equal to every other race in America today. We've already discussed the reason for that. It's unfair to all black people but the crime statistics racked up by some are real.

Why tear sh- up instead of creating what you want? Why not build more monuments dedicated to black achievement and equality? They already exist but there's room for more. Society is built on creating, not destroying.

Would this be happening if liberals were happy with their President? No. This would never have happened under Obama. The underlying purpose of the whole movement is to prevent Trump from being reelected. It's a protest against Trump. Very few people are thinking much about black lives anymore.

What exactly do these people (protestors of all colors) want if they can't create it on their own? What do they expect to be done so they will stop their rioting? I've heard there are lists of demands but why have we not heard them? It's because the real reason they're rioting is that they want Trump to go away. How many people in those crowds do you think are Trump supporters? Virtually none, I'll wager.

If this continues until November and Trump is not reelected, watch the riots stop. Just watch.
Liberals? The President? Issues of people? I dunno Mythos. I dont think half of these rioters know the diff between a dem and a repub.Some prolly dont even know who's in office or even care. They just want free shi7,and to burn shi7 down.It's not about who's right and who's wrong anymore.They just want to party.If you get a chance,pull one of them aside and ask them a few questions. Is this helping? WHO is it helping? Whats the end goal? Yer a smart dude.Come up with some questions.Ask them if all the troubles go away with this president. I will bet you some Busa goodies that most of the rioters wont have the first clue. Could be wrong thou...meh.
Rubb.
 
Can't agree. It's not blacks vs whites, it's a terribly dated lack of understanding and compassion, and Islam isn't a threat, it's a religion.
A religion can be a threat. Human history is overflowing with examples of this.
It's how religion is interpreted. Most of it is harmless. It's the fanatics who are dangerous.We can get into a holy war about what drove people to fly into buildings Sept. 11th. I know,I know...fake news,hoax...the CIA did it. FANATICS did it. All the rest is unimportant.Reading the Koran is fine as long as you don't read into it that you have to kill people. A huge percentage of this world has been owned several different times by many different "believers." They had a bible in one hand,and a long sword in the other. "Christians" killed more innocent people than anybody. The bible is fine...use it,keep it close to your heart.There is no need to shove any belief down someones throat just because they were born into it. Politics,religion,believed(can't say proven anymore) science even...it's all good till you get closed minded and fanatical about it.
Common sense...the common good...it just doesn't have enough zest or appeal for some. It has to be extreme.
Folks run down the others beliefs all the time. Sometimes for absolutely BAT-SHI7 crazy reasons. The more you try and talk common sense or whats actually good for everyone the more they dig their heels in.
I'm supposed to be a good Roman Catholic...dropped into it by birth,not by choice.Born 60 years ago I could have been killing JEWS. Because those people thought it was the right thing to do.Many of them thought god was on their side.
My favorite quote on religion....
"Please Jesus...Protect me from Your Followers."
Now,let's get out there and loot,pillage and plunder...because right now..."It's the right thing to do." You won't easily talk THEM out of it either.
THEM: White/black/yellow and brown. THEM. The "protesters."
Rubb.
 
NASCAR. Like any other group has to be given a chance to grow up.There are very few organization in the world(I would guess none actually) that are perfect.Somebody's group of people doing what they want to do is going to pi55 off another group of people.It can't be helped. Name me one thing you can do tomorrow that won't upset somebody. Just one. There is no chance you can come up with it. Maybe you will say "I'm just going to sit by myself in a quiet dark corner and breath."
Somebody out there doesn't like you. You are wasting oxygen to them.Perhaps your a heathen or infidel or worse yet...a Democrat.
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Extreme,yes,but you can't please all the people all the time.You can do your best to be a good human being,but that just won't be good enough for some of the other human beings.
Just be kind to one another. Makes sense right? But it has no EXTREMIST action in it. Some people just don't like things like,being kind. They find it boring or something.
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"The Right Thing" must be gunned down at all costs.

One of my favorite songs by INXS Guns in the Sky
Favorite line..."Some one out there ain't gonna like it."
Sweet dreams
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Rubb.
 
A religion can be a threat. Human history is overflowing with examples of this.

Rubb touched on it; the foundational beliefs of Islam are not threatening any more than those of Christianity or Buddhism. It's people that can be threatening, and labeling them by what religion they believe in criticizes everybody of that faith. Generalizations cost us greatly.
 
Rubb touched on it; the foundational beliefs of Islam are not threatening any more than those of Christianity or Buddhism. It's people that can be threatening, and labeling them by what religion they believe in criticizes everybody of that faith. Generalizations cost us greatly.

It's the extremists which are driving the issues under the guise of Islamic faith. The Koran is much like the bible in many ways-peace and harmony is the root of it's writings and general teachings.

Wars have been fought between the Muslims (Moors) and Christians pretty much ever since the emergence of both religions (Islam is younger than Christianity). Millions of people have died for their religion.

Al-Qaeda was able to be formed due to the lack of education of the people it recruited, their Imams could tell these people anything and they would believe it. Most of the Taliban we captured didn't even know how to read or write and as the Koran has never been translated into their language, they never had a clue what was in it. Our translators would try and read the Koran to them in their language but they didn't believe them...

The Islamic extremists are not the biggest threat to western civilization, it will be the Republic of China which is the biggest threat, they will soon (if not already) be able to buy and sell every country they do business with. They don't have to invade via military might, they will do it through financial hostile take overs. Western civilisation is doing business with a devout communist country with zero regard for human rights-a country which as shown hostile intent towards western culture for years and years.
 
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