Impeachment inquiry against Donald Trump

You all are doing pretty good in here so keep it up. Just remember to proof your own post before click the go button.

A few general rules I use when i am in a disucssion with folks about a topic that we are in disagreement.

1. Don't use absolutes - I never, We don't, you always -- because seldom is there anything absolute.
2. Don't make it personal, this is usually where the heat comes in... "You, your, my" followed by a descriptor is the usual setup for failure.
3. Keep it to the facts and let the data tell the story... Quote your source...
4. We are all adults and I will hold every one of us to a higher standard than our elected officials. Common courtesy does apply here and that spans across all political and geographic boundaries.
5. You most likely aren't going to change anyone's mind arguing with them on the Internet but you might just plant a seed if you intelligently lay out the facts. If your goal is to argue then short personal attacks is what you would expect, if education and honest discussion is what your goal is then thoughtout well written text is what you should see.

I could go on but you can judge how someone responds or posts in this forum and see if thought was put into it or if the message was written by emotion. You have to base your level of acceptance of the message sometimes by the amount of effort put into the writing.

Keep up the good work folks, proud of you for open dialog.

Cap
 
Franklin Grahams response to this article.
Franklin Graham
10 hrs ·
My Response to Christianity Today:
Christianity Today released an editorial stating that President Trump should be removed from office—and they invoked my father’s name (I suppose to try to bring legitimacy to their statements), so I feel it is important for me to respond. Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed. I have not previously shared who my father voted for in the past election, but because of this article, I feel it is necessary to share it now. My father knew Donald Trump, he believed in Donald Trump, and he voted for Donald Trump. He believed that Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation.
For Christianity Today to side with the Democrat Party in a totally partisan attack on the President of the United States is unfathomable. Christianity Today failed to acknowledge that not one single Republican voted with the Democrats to impeach the President. I know a number of Republicans in Congress, and many of them are strong Christians. If the President were guilty of what the Democrats claimed, these Republicans would have joined with the Democrats to impeach him. But the Democrats were not even unanimous—two voted against impeachment and one voted present. This impeachment was politically motivated, 100% partisan. Why would Christianity Today choose to take the side of the Democrat left whose only goal is to discredit and smear the name of a sitting president? They want readers to believe the Democrat leadership rather than believe the President of the United States.
Look at all the President has accomplished in a very short time. The economy of our nation is the strongest it has been in 50 years, ISIS & the caliphate have been defeated, and the President has renegotiated trade deals to benefit all Americans. The list of accomplishments is long, but for me as a Christian, the fact that he is the most pro-life president in modern history is extremely important—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that, to say it doesn’t count? The President has been a staunch defender of religious freedom at home and around the world—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that? Also the President has appointed conservative judges in record number—and Christianity today wants us to ignore that? Christianity Today feels he should be removed from office because of false accusations that the President emphatically denies.
Christianity Today said it’s time to call a spade a spade. The spade is this—Christianity Today has been used by the left for their political agenda. It’s obvious that Christianity Today has moved to the left and is representing the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism.
Is President Trump guilty of sin? Of course he is, as were all past presidents and as each one of us are, including myself. Therefore, let’s pray for the President as he continues to lead the affairs of our nation.



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I enjoyed Cap's post.
Right now 100% of Republicans disagree with 99% of Democrats, so disagreement in this thread is absolutely natural.
 
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I hope the people vote for Trump by a large margin in 2020. I’m tired of these waste of time and money the party’s waste to try and be superior of each other. They’re in office for us to help make this place run. But if all they do is waste time fighting and pulling stunts they should know we will vote them out. 4 years of nothing. They don’t want trump to look good. I think one reason is they don’t want anymore none politician people to run for office. I have other reasons. But I don’t have time to type everything...... I really think the Democratic Party is going to lose hard in 2020. They will probably lose the house to with the poop they have been doing. The economy is doing great. But is cause of trump or is it from Obama’s deals from his term? Who truly knows. But the economy is doing great. Looks the impeachment of trump really hasn’t hurt the market. Yet.
 
Well, I don't think pigs know that having all the food they can eat is great but it doesn't end well. The trade deficit is going up, not down. We have spent more money propping up farmers from the tariffs than we spent bailing out the car companies. The manufacturing industry is declining too. Debt is soaring. Interest rates are so low the next cut they will be paying you to take a loan. The economy is slowing and when that starts to impact we will have exhausted all means of stimulus. Income disparity continues to rise, We are further away from a healthcare solution than before (if you don't recall, the last collapse at the end of the Bush term was due to mortgage bankruptcies, 90% of which were due in part to medical bills).

On top of all that doom and gloom, the world has been purposely destabilized. Partnerships have been broken, trust violated. Whether or not you think this is good or bad, economic growth and peace need stability. I have talked to economists who say we are running on fumes from a 10 year expansion and a crash is inevitable, probably in late 2020 or early 2021. I have talked to soldiers who say a war is coming because the bad guys have not had an opening like this since the end of WWII.

A part of me wants Trump to win again so he can be in office when his chickens come home to roost. But then he'll just blame it on Obama, and the suckers will buy every word of it.
 
I hope the people vote for Trump by a large margin in 2020. I’m tired of these waste of time and money the party’s waste to try and be superior of each other. They’re in office for us to help make this place run. But if all they do is waste time fighting and pulling stunts they should know we will vote them out. 4 years of nothing. They don’t want trump to look good. I think one reason is they don’t want anymore none politician people to run for office. I have other reasons. But I don’t have time to type everything...... I really think the Democratic Party is going to lose hard in 2020. They will probably lose the house to with the poop they have been doing. The economy is doing great. But is cause of trump or is it from Obama’s deals from his term? Who truly knows. But the economy is doing great. Looks the impeachment of trump really hasn’t hurt the market. Yet.
Does not matter if the people vote for him, he lost the popular vote last time and the electoral vote put him in. I’m very disappointed in our system!
 
Does not matter if the people vote for him, he lost the popular vote last time and the electoral vote put him in. I’m very disappointed in our system!


the system we have now works great. Makes things fair. I don’t even know why they show the popular vote since it doesn’t really matter. Trump will both votes this time.
 
Well, I don't think pigs know that having all the food they can eat is great but it doesn't end well. The trade deficit is going up, not down. We have spent more money propping up farmers from the tariffs than we spent bailing out the car companies. The manufacturing industry is declining too. Debt is soaring. Interest rates are so low the next cut they will be paying you to take a loan. The economy is slowing and when that starts to impact we will have exhausted all means of stimulus. Income disparity continues to rise, We are further away from a healthcare solution than before (if you don't recall, the last collapse at the end of the Bush term was due to mortgage bankruptcies, 90% of which were due in part to medical bills).

On top of all that doom and gloom, the world has been purposely destabilized. Partnerships have been broken, trust violated. Whether or not you think this is good or bad, economic growth and peace need stability. I have talked to economists who say we are running on fumes from a 10 year expansion and a crash is inevitable, probably in late 2020 or early 2021. I have talked to soldiers who say a war is coming because the bad guys have not had an opening like this since the end of WWII.

A part of me wants Trump to win again so he can be in office when his chickens come home to roost. But then he'll just blame it on Obama, and the suckers will buy every word of it.
That sounds almost as bad as I guy I know who spent a whole lot of cash on his Hayabusa to make it better, but then only took it out close to home as he had lost confidence in the bike.
 
That sounds almost as bad as I guy I know who spent a whole lot of cash on his Hayabusa to make it better, but then only took it out close to home as he had lost confidence in the bike.
I deleted what I was going to say :lol:

I assume you have no response to the failures of your president as you retreated to an attack on my absolutely amazing bike. I was trying to think, have you taken the reflectors off your scooter yet?

I'm attaching a photo just for you now that I know you are jealous, ha ha!

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I don't think people disagree that much at all. The basic things most people want are the same. The most popular Dems are centrists as are many Reps and most Independents. Most people want affordable access to healthcare, Obama care has a 80% plus approval rating. People want good jobs, affordable housing and food. Our support on those issues is basically unanimous.

Politicians like Trump and some foreign enemies have us focus almost totally on the few things we don't agree on. That's the problem.
 
I deleted what I was going to say :lol:

I assume you have no response to the failures of your president as you retreated to an attack on my absolutely amazing bike. I was trying to think, have you taken the reflectors off your scooter yet?

I'm attaching a photo just for you now that I know you are jealous, ha ha!

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My president? I hate to let you know, he is your president also, whether you like it or not. It is kind of a matter where one has to help the Captain of the ship to reach the shoreline, rather than sinking the boat. At least that would allow us to vote for a new captain once the shoreline is reached. Your girlfriend dear Nancy, in trying to sink the ship has done so much damage, we might have to take the next journey with the same captain.
 
My president? I hate to let you know, he is your president also, whether you like it or not. It is kind of a matter where one has to help the Captain of the ship to reach the shoreline, rather than sinking the boat. At least that would allow us to vote for a new captain once the shoreline is reached. Your girlfriend dear Nancy, in trying to sink the ship has done so much damage, we might have to take the next journey with the same captain.
I don't believe he is a citizen therefore he's not my president. I haven't seen his long-form birth certificate.
 

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HI. If this does not get him out. I will just have to tell Nancy Pelosi to start a new impeachment that will get him kicked for sure, this will not fail. Remember when he got 2 scopes of ice cream and every one only got 1. Well that was not fair at all. I am all for open borders. We need them to comet the crimes that Americans do not want comet. OH sorry I meant do the say do the jobs that Americans do not want to do. As they cross the border we could hire Vets to give them get out of jail free cards, free health care, free homes, free cars, free close , free money too, also voter I Ds. Remember vote Bernie Sanders and AOC for VP comrade. Then we can get rid of the constitution have no hate speech [free speech]. Keep us safe from our own guns [even if we have to kill you to do it].
 
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