Kamala is taking over...

Did you call him a pancake?:laugh:
Indeed i did, pancake is a word that is common in Amsterdam for people like this, i missed his comment cause he was talking to Zerks, but come on....are we first grades students? Maybe i'm just an idiot who cant read or write, so thats what you start complaining about....come on man, like its impossible to follow what i mean. act like an adult, if you dont agree, thats fine, if you think i got my facts wrong, proof me otherwise, but dont go on this road....thats weakness, diverging the subject and bash some ones flaws wich are not flaws but just born and raised with another language. The fact is and we all as adults should be one one page by now.....politics and voting NEVER did anything good for the common folk, just empty promisses and blah blah. And thats a fact....not a claim.
 
Indeed i did, pancake is a word that is common in Amsterdam for people like this, i missed his comment cause he was talking to Zerks, but come on....are we first grades students? Maybe i'm just an idiot who cant read or write, so thats what you start complaining about....come on man, like its impossible to follow what i mean. act like an adult, if you dont agree, thats fine, if you think i got my facts wrong, proof me otherwise, but dont go on this road....thats weakness, diverging the subject and bash some ones flaws wich are not flaws but just born and raised with another language. The fact is and we all as adults should be one one page by now.....politics and voting NEVER did anything good for the common folk, just empty promisses and blah blah. And thats a fact....not a claim.
It all comes back to one's personal reputation and whether or not someone is honest or not. The facts though muddled at times are proof that most men that desire to govern others have many of the same flaws that make them unqualified to hold those positions. This is why I mentioned Whitney Webb's 2 new books titled "One Nation Under Blackmail" as a point of reference to really see and understand who is doing the unnecessary harm here and around the world.

As far as your opinion on politics and voting goes... its evident that when people elected to power aren't really interested in serving the people, and they have their own personal overriding agenda.... then it appears "they" will often times use the people in ways ( over taxing ) that only benefits the few that paid for the campaign that won the election along with themselves for the personal gains they desire.

If the world were to unite in a benevolent direction starting at the top the world would be much better off for it. In the end it comes back to the reputation of leaders that shows us who these people really are. With few exceptions we have actors in politics that fail to serve others because they are focused on themselves and others inside their personal circle. As Carlin famously said... its a club and you and I aren't in it.

As far as pancakes go.... they are gaining in numbers as the truth keeps coming out. Labeling people you have not spent the time to know shows us that its easy to make assumptions.

Who am I? I am a guy that likes to build things and help others that are deserving of being helped.
 
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You’re Dutch, I was born in Argentina. I speak Spanish and French but can speak and write in English properly. I think it’s great you’re multi lingual but you come across as a know it all in any language. You shouldn't presume to teach vocabulary in your weaker language. Pareces un sabe todo en cualquier idioma.

I love pancakes. Eggo waffles too lol
 
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OH my god, this is to funny...you do know i'm dutch right? and that we can have a conversation in your native tong is enough, but why not go to my native tong and see how you do....zo laten we eens beginnen pannekoek, schrijf maar wat mooie woorden of kraak eens een echt feitje van me af, nee want dat kan je niet. Now stop with your stuppid behaviour and keep things at facts, dont change the subject.
The subject is that all leadership is bad and we're all basically effed? Bunch of crap. The democratic system works. People need to man up and accept it when they are outvoted. Use proper channels, not attacking government buildings with intent to stop official governmental procedures.
Anything else is anarchy and chaos.
Stupid stuff? Learning a language is stupid because… you say so? There's one p in stupid. Attempting to learn a language properly might show a curiosity, a propensity to try to see other perspectives.
 
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The subject is that all leadership is bad and we're all basically effed? Bunch of crap. The democratic system works. People need to man up and accept it when they are outvoted. Use proper channels, not attacking government buildings with intent to stop official governmental procedures.
Anything else is anarchy and chaos.
Stupid stuff? Learning a language is stupid because… you say so? There's one p in stupid. Attempting to learn a language properly might show a curiosity, a propensity to try to see other perspectives.
you are what we call a statist, democracy works? no point in discussions with you, or else we have chaos and anarchy....maybe look up what anarchy really means before throwing words you dont even understand. Now go put on CNN and vote, and sell that bike of yours cause your poluting the planet....how dare you!!! And again with the language, grow up man.
 
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You’re Dutch, I was born in Argentina. I speak Spanish and French but can speak and write in English properly. I think it’s great you’re multi lingual but you come across as a know it all in any language. You shouldn't presume to teach vocabulary in your weaker language. Pareces un sabe todo en cualquier idioma.

I love pancakes. Eggo waffles too lol
Good for you, being able to write englisch properly, makes you most def, the better and smarter guy, maybe i should listnen to you with your knowledge on democraty and how good this works, offcourse your still not able to give me one example of any so called leader who did something good for all the citizens of any country....except for raising taxes, sending people to war, taking there property's yeah....gotta love democraty....the same democraty that made the dutch vote against becoming a EU member with more the 60% off the votes....but democraty tossed it in the garbage, cause yes, thats democraty.
 
Good for you, being able to write englisch properly, makes you most def, the better and smarter guy, maybe i should listnen to you with your knowledge on democraty and how good this works, offcourse your still not able to give me one example of any so called leader who did something good for all the citizens of any country....except for raising taxes, sending people to war, taking there property's yeah....gotta love democraty....the same democraty that made the dutch vote against becoming a EU member with more the 60% off the votes....but democraty tossed it in the garbage, cause yes, thats democraty.
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If not democracy then what?

I'm for democracy personally, I've seen what the other kinds of governmental regimes have done to the world.
 
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If not democracy then what?

I'm for democracy personally, I've seen what the other kinds of governmental regimes have done to the world.
I am much more in favor of a country guided by a Constitutional Republic. As I understand it.... The basis for the Constitutional Republic is that personal freedoms will be maintained and protected regardless of what politicians want to do.

With a Democracy its group rule through elected representatives that can formulate a new set of rules that impose on the Constitutional Republic rights which is what has been happening for a long time.


Over time a Democracy and a Constitutional Republic turns into a mix of infringements on a countries citizens. With a Constitutional Republic the amendments are not to be over ridden even though that is what the politicians continually want to over write with new laws. This is how we end up with laws that are argued as unconstitutional.
 
I am much more in favor of a country guided by a Constitutional Republic. As I understand it.... The basis for the Constitutional Republic is that personal freedoms will be maintained and protected regardless of what politicians want to do.

With a Democracy its group rule through elected representatives that can formulate a new set of rules that impose on the Constitutional Republic rights which is what has been happening for a long time.


Over time a Democracy and a Constitutional Republic turns into a mix of infringements on a countries citizens. With a Constitutional Republic the amendments are not to be over ridden even though that is what the politicians continually want to over write with new laws. This is how we end up with laws that are argued as unconstitutional.
In a quick research and read, it appears that a constitutional republic holds the very good threat of becoming a dictatorship as the constitution can be written in such a way to allow this to happen....

From what I've read, the US is both a democracy and a republic, some US scholars call it a "constitutional federal representative democracy"

 
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If not democracy then what?

I'm for democracy personally, I've seen what the other kinds of governmental regimes have done to the world.
why do you both keep pushing for something thats under the control of a goverment? ever heard of free will, voluntary?
You know those rights you are born with. I would never stand between a WORKING democraty, where people are free to choose there own path, and public servants act like public servants, the thing that you dont seem to grasp, is that ALL countrys are corperations, district off columbia ring a bell? And corperations act with contracts, contracts that you dont even know they excist. Its a FACT that all people in so called places of power, abuse there standing, no mather if you choose not to believe this, just wait....there stepping up there game and stepping out of the shadows, and if you took the time to look around, then you would allready have seen the signs, many before you allready did, and the group that is waking up is growing by the day. Time to hear people out instead of sticking to a story that has no valid ground anymore. But i'm gonna get a fishstick out of the freezer, cause i guess explaining all this to him would be more easy then people who live under a rock.
 
why do you both keep pushing for something thats under the control of a goverment? ever heard of free will, voluntary?
You know those rights you are born with. I would never stand between a WORKING democraty, where people are free to choose there own path, and public servants act like public servants, the thing that you dont seem to grasp, is that ALL countrys are corperations, district off columbia ring a bell? And corperations act with contracts, contracts that you dont even know they excist. Its a FACT that all people in so called places of power, abuse there standing, no mather if you choose not to believe this, just wait....there stepping up there game and stepping out of the shadows, and if you took the time to look around, then you would allready have seen the signs, many before you allready did, and the group that is waking up is growing by the day. Time to hear people out instead of sticking to a story that has no valid ground anymore. But i'm gonna get a fishstick out of the freezer, cause i guess explaining all this to him would be more easy then people who live under a rock.
The entire world isn't some sort of conspiracy where evil rules.....and it would be some kind of a horrible way to live thinking this....

A strong democratically elected government is a necessity in these times and it always has been....this has been something I have fought and bled for,

Have you ever been in a country where this isn't the case? The people in these countries express their free will in very interesting ways free of any societal constraints.
 
you are what we call a statist, democracy works? no point in discussions with you, or else we have chaos and anarchy....maybe look up what anarchy really means before throwing words you dont even understand.
lol yet another vocabulary lesson from the English challenged guy. I understand the word PERFECTLY.
No point in discussion? So you say there has been no worthy leadership and we the helpless masses are just pawns for them. Simplistic and so inaccurate where does a person start.
 
why do you both keep pushing for something thats under the control of a goverment? ever heard of free will, voluntary?
You know those rights you are born with. I would never stand between a WORKING democraty, where people are free to choose there own path, and public servants act like public servants, the thing that you dont seem to grasp, is that ALL countrys are corperations, district off columbia ring a bell? And corperations act with contracts, contracts that you dont even know they excist. Its a FACT that all people in so called places of power, abuse there standing, no mather if you choose not to believe this, just wait....there stepping up there game and stepping out of the shadows, and if you took the time to look around, then you would allready have seen the signs, many before you allready did, and the group that is waking up is growing by the day. Time to hear people out instead of sticking to a story that has no valid ground anymore. But i'm gonna get a fishstick out of the freezer, cause i guess explaining all this to him would be more easy then people who live under a rock.

I think it’s great that you speak English well enough for us to discuss, but when your preposterous theories about world order get questioned you get emotional and question whether WE understand the language.
 
why do you both keep pushing for something thats under the control of a goverment? ever heard of free will, voluntary?
You know those rights you are born with. I would never stand between a WORKING democraty, where people are free to choose there own path, and public servants act like public servants, the thing that you dont seem to grasp, is that ALL countrys are corperations, district off columbia ring a bell? And corperations act with contracts, contracts that you dont even know they excist. Its a FACT that all people in so called places of power, abuse there standing, no mather if you choose not to believe this, just wait....there stepping up there game and stepping out of the shadows, and if you took the time to look around, then you would allready have seen the signs, many before you allready did, and the group that is waking up is growing by the day. Time to hear people out instead of sticking to a story that has no valid ground anymore. But i'm gonna get a fishstick out of the freezer, cause i guess explaining all this to him would be more easy then people who live under a rock.
If you want to talk down to us a little bit its ok. However, we were not born yesterday and have seen the politicians, heads of state, and other high ranking king pins come and go for decades. We already know why the ones in power that we favored were able to stay on a higher plane with their reputations intact after the time they served had ended.

We will always have abusive actors involving themselves in the political process... From Soros to Epstein to Gates and many more including some WEF members the world as we see it it always a few steps behind due to the societal and political engineering being drafted in the Think Tanks that have organizational names like the UN. Council of Foreign Relations and WHO. These groups and the other useful idiots want to reshape the world in ways that don't align with America's traditions and values. President Reagan identified some of these groups decades ago and warned us about them.
 
i think it was Micheal who asked for the solutution....well there is one. We split this realm in half, and all statists who loved to be ruled will go and live on their half...and the anarchist ( no rulers) will take the other half....great experiment to finaly see who is right. cause there are people who will always want to pressure there rule on you, and there are people who just want to live there life,
So you can have all these great politicians and leeches, and they can rule you in what ever way they tell you, We will figure out a system that is based on freedom and respect.
 
I think it’s great that you speak English well enough for us to discuss, but when your preposterous theories about world order get questioned you get emotional and question whether WE understand the language.
by the way, i'm not getting emotional. i'm having fun....its always fun to see people avoid questions, change subjects and go from a discussion to behaviiour like bashing some ones English....and for theories...sorry i dont do theories, i do facts, so maybe read all my posts i've made and bash a single fact.....should'nt be that hard right?
 
The entire world isn't some sort of conspiracy where evil rules.....and it would be some kind of a horrible way to live thinking this....

A strong democratically elected government is a necessity in these times and it always has been....this has been something I have fought and bled for,

Have you ever been in a country where this isn't the case? The people in these countries express their free will in very interesting ways free of any societal constraints.
The entire world is under controll off the ultra rich, i never used the word evil, that one is one you. And sorry my man, but all my respect for any one who fought or bled and so called fought for our freedoms are gone. Where were you when innocent protesters that are rightfully protesting and not using violance, were beaten up buy cops? Where were you and your army buddys when goverments all over the world decided to lock down the world, close shops with all economic poop that would follow....was'nt it your job to protect the people off your country? Now that i'm older i understand that you dont get to become a cop or soldier if you want to, you need to be able to be humble ( great choise of name humblebee) and follow orders, no mather if there just.
So i'm the wrong guy to come with that bs, i dont respect the so called i fought for your freedoms.....if those who decided where not around, then there would be no war to fight. and for your other comment on other country's who are supressed....wel wel, if it isn't a goverment that is again involved, Goverments dont produce, they destroy. We produce, we build, we create, not them.
 
well, sinds you pulled my strings and got me back in the game...lets do this. Here for you bumbelbee..

and this needs some more explanation, cause its well documented (hate phones but in these times good they are there) that on every single protest, so called romeo's got out of police vans...a romeo is a special forces public servant who dresses up like a civilian, face covered ofcourse, and then start making trouble with there own co-workers. In other words, problem action solution, cause after that those bastards disappeard from the scene and now the cops had a legal reason to act. And not just acting, really beating up older folks, bashing people who where peacefull sitting down, using dogs to attack people, and the thing i learned from this, cause protest contained about a milion plus protesters.....people are not violent by nature, cause if these milions would have wanted, they would have crushed these 400 cops who went all in when the order was called.
Dont act if this is a democraty, cause The Netherlands isn't the only so called democraty where the goverment and there minions showed there true collors.....just like in most wars....we where just following orders. I even saw a vid of American soldiers who where all broken and told the REAL story about what happened in the midlle east, protecting oil and poppy fields, cause wars are never what they seem my friend....your not discussing with a simple minded main stream media believer, i am verry capable of picking a event/story apart and put 2 and 2 together.....just like Zerks keeps rambling about JFK who also comes from a long line of elite(leeches), or now even Reagan....its well documented and even overdone with movies and series, that in his reign, the CIA was the ones who brought coke to the US...none of them are trustworthy, some will say excactly what you want to hear, but in the end, they all are part of the same club. so please, continue, my old self is coming back on the stage.....and i was good in it, i even as a simplle plumber from Amsterdam, uncovered the so called biggest conspiracy theorist with milions of followers as a controlled oposition minion.
His channel was ruined after that and he never got back on top....so yeah, bring it on. I'm game
 
The entire world is under controll off the ultra rich, i never used the word evil, that one is one you. And sorry my man, but all my respect for any one who fought or bled and so called fought for our freedoms are gone. Where were you when innocent protesters that are rightfully protesting and not using violance, were beaten up buy cops? Where were you and your army buddys when goverments all over the world decided to lock down the world, close shops with all economic poop that would follow....was'nt it your job to protect the people off your country? Now that i'm older i understand that you dont get to become a cop or soldier if you want to, you need to be able to be humble ( great choise of name humblebee) and follow orders, no mather if there just.
So i'm the wrong guy to come with that bs, i dont respect the so called i fought for your freedoms.....if those who decided where not around, then there would be no war to fight. and for your other comment on other country's who are supressed....wel wel, if it isn't a goverment that is again involved, Goverments dont produce, they destroy. We produce, we build, we create, not them.
If it wasn't for guys like myself in the past, you and your people would still be under German rule and starving (or worse).



There'd always be wars, human beings are not designed to get along, even the earliest humans fought over the same things primates fight for today-territory, food and mating rights....some of the countries I've had the misfortune of being in were devolved to just this, they had a very corrupt or non-existent government which had zero population controls.....regular citizens weren't safe to walk the streets or in many cases be in their homes as the bad guys would just rip down the door and take whatever they wished....

Here in the 1st world we have stupid things like consistent electricity, water and services such as garbage/recycling and compost removal, we can go to a store and buy commodities or drive our vehicle on decent roads which are cleared in the winter and maintained...we can go to the bank and draw out money with which to buy things and be able to work for that money...

So knock the government all you want, move to your own island somewhere.......because anything short of you doing that makes you a hypocrite.


..............and you might want to pull back your horns on people who served in the military or police force on this site......there are many who have served and are proud of that fact. I make no apologies for my service, I was a 4th generation Canadian soldier and I have 2 sons serving now-proud of them both...

I'm sure guys like @SSGT_B, @michael parris heuberger @WuzzaCBXRider @pashnit @TallTom @greg3852 and many more on this site would be interested in your views on military and police service....guys like @c10 who has a boy in the Marines or @Blanca BusaLess who spends time training police forces on the range...

You sound like an angry, bitter man wrapped in tinfoil sitting in your basement in the dark watching the world pass you by instead of enjoying it.
 
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