Looks like a war is looming in Israel

Blanca BusaLess said:
They knew exactly what they were doing and to whom.

www.theguardian.com

Israeli military likely knew identities of aid workers killed in charity convoy, humanitarian groups say

Australian Council for International Development head says ‘intense coordination and negotiation’ would have occurred prior to passage of workers
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Keep excusing it.
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No excuse....if this is the case, the people who ordered the strike will answer for it.....not me.....

All I'm saying that bad things happen in this kind of warfare....things that are awful and horrible......and they happen all the time by very advanced militaries....all the time......

 
Bumblebee said:
This also seems like conjecture......

I'm not saying it's not true, but I err on the side of caution when I see this sort of thing.....

I highly doubt the IDF knew as much as this article states.....this wasn't a clearly marked UN convoy, it was three little trucks from a little known NGO.....
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I look at this strike in this manner:

Israel is a modern military fighting an asymmetrical war against a terror organization which is not an easy mission to accomplish
There is zero advantage for them to target and eliminate this NGO group-a kitchen organization of all things........
The eyes of the world are watching their every move and many groups were hoping they'd screw up like this especially the antisemitic Palestinian groups all over the world. And the IDF are well aware of this fact....

Who is in control of these NGOs operating within the battle space I wonder...? I know these groups have to file movement plans well in advance and are forbidden to stray from them as incidents like this can happen if they do...

IDF has admitted to messing up and have fired some key individuals with an investigation coming.....I'm sure there will be a lot of heat and light on this.

In the end, the IDF will not stop until Hamas either surrenders or are rendered ineffective....they'll never eliminate them as this ideology can never be completely irradicated....
 
The return of those hostages that are still alive and a complete accounting of those that aren’t has to happen sooner than later. It could be (the) key towards the cessation of hostilities. Israel doesn’t seem to care about them though as it’s still in attack mode and Hamas, who figured the hostages would be their ace in the hole for any future negotiations, is probably surprised that they’re apparently worthless. So they’re like, “WTH do we do now?” That’s never going to bode well for Hamas and the innocents near them as long as Israel continues as they have been.
 
Bumblebee said:
I look at this strike in this manner:

Israel is a modern military fighting an asymmetrical war against a terror organization which is not an easy mission to accomplish
There is zero advantage for them to target and eliminate this NGO group-a kitchen organization of all things........
The eyes of the world are watching their every move and many groups were hoping they'd screw up like this especially the antisemitic Palestinian groups all over the world. And the IDF are well aware of this fact....

Who is in control of these NGOs operating within the battle space I wonder...? I know these groups have to file movement plans well in advance and are forbidden to stray from them as incidents like this can happen if they do...

IDF has admitted to messing up and have fired some key individuals with an investigation coming.....I'm sure there will be a lot of heat and light on this.

In the end, the IDF will not stop until Hamas either surrenders or are rendered ineffective....they'll never eliminate them as this ideology can never be completely irradicated....
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90% Of Palestinians support Hamas.

Perhaps aid and who benefits from it and how it is coordinated should involve the IDF in all cases.

www.blackburn.senate.gov

How Hamas Benefits From American Taxpayers

www.blackburn.senate.gov

I guess if we make the same mistakes, it is swept under the carpet?

amp.cnn.com

US military admits it killed 10 civilians and targeted wrong vehicle in Kabul airstrike

A United States military investigation into a deadly Kabul drone strike on a vehicle in August has found it killed 10 civilians and the driver and that the vehicle targeted was likely not a threat associated with ISIS-K, announced Gen. Frank McKenzie, the top general of US Central Command, at...
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jellyrug said:
90% Of Palestinians support Hamas.

Perhaps aid and who benefits from it and how it is coordinated should involve the IDF in all cases.

www.blackburn.senate.gov

How Hamas Benefits From American Taxpayers

www.blackburn.senate.gov

I guess if we make the same mistakes, it is swept under the carpet?

amp.cnn.com

US military admits it killed 10 civilians and targeted wrong vehicle in Kabul airstrike

A United States military investigation into a deadly Kabul drone strike on a vehicle in August has found it killed 10 civilians and the driver and that the vehicle targeted was likely not a threat associated with ISIS-K, announced Gen. Frank McKenzie, the top general of US Central Command, at...
amp.cnn.com amp.cnn.com
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The strike against soft targets happens all the time, in many cases it doesn't make the news as there is nobody there to report it....

Friendly fire strikes happen all the time as well, and that is even after through communications and unit tracking within the battle space......it's not very often that an NGO gets hit as generally their movements are closely tracked just in case bad actors have infiltrated them.

I wonder about the NGO tracking in Gaza.....are these organizations wandering around with no movement orders? In any other battlespace NGOs have to plot their movements similar to a flight plan so this sort of thing doesn't happen....
 
jellyrug said:
90% Of Palestinians support Hamas.

Perhaps aid and who benefits from it and how it is coordinated should involve the IDF in all cases.

www.blackburn.senate.gov

How Hamas Benefits From American Taxpayers

www.blackburn.senate.gov

I guess if we make the same mistakes, it is swept under the carpet?

amp.cnn.com

US military admits it killed 10 civilians and targeted wrong vehicle in Kabul airstrike

A United States military investigation into a deadly Kabul drone strike on a vehicle in August has found it killed 10 civilians and the driver and that the vehicle targeted was likely not a threat associated with ISIS-K, announced Gen. Frank McKenzie, the top general of US Central Command, at...
amp.cnn.com amp.cnn.com
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90% eh? You say that like it’s a fact. If it is a fact you should easily be able to support such a claim. How bout it?
 
WuzzaCBXRider said:
90% eh? You say that like it’s a fact. If it is a fact you should easily be able to support such a claim. How bout it?
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Google is your friend, you will find most sources claim 75 - 90%

Who knows whether that is a fact?

The question one needs to ask is with all the suffering, the damage, the war against a superior force, if they did not support Hamas, then why not raise the white flag, surrender, and force Hamas to surrender?

The second question one has to ask, is if that is a fact, then why support the enemy by giving them fuel, food, water?
 
When one doesn’t know whether or not it’s a fact, one doesn’t state it as though it were like you did,

“90% Of Palestinians support Hamas.”

Reading that, being such a high percentage, makes the reader think, whaaaa? So why not say something similar to,

‘According to what I’ve read’, apparently in your case, googled, ‘Palestinian approval of Hamas could be as high as 90%.’

Why cause the reader to (look it up) or, just believe you? Printing it as a fact as you did is alarmist in nature and (that) is a fact.
 
WuzzaCBXRider said:
When one doesn’t know whether or not it’s a fact, one doesn’t state it as though it were like you did,

“90% Of Palestinians support Hamas.”

Reading that, being such a high percentage, makes the reader think, whaaaa? So why not say something similar to,

‘According to what I’ve read’, apparently in your case, googled, ‘Palestinian approval of Hamas could be as high as 90%.’

Why cause the reader to (look it up) or, just believe you? Printing it as a fact as you did is alarmist in nature and (that) is a fact.
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How much do you charge for lessons to type things the way you wish to read them, so you can be happy?

I’ll try and entertain you free of charge.

On the other hand, perhaps you should endeavor to contribute some wisdom, by giving us your opinion, regarding the whole Gaza Israel situation, rather than nitpicking posts from others.
 
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WuzzaCBXRider said:
90% eh? You say that like it’s a fact. If it is a fact you should easily be able to support such a claim. How bout it?
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Hi. From the son of a Hamas co-founder and leader said. Anyone can beleive what ever they want but facts are facts. And I beleave that there are blue people living in the see off of the coast South America. Can anyone prove I an wrong?

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Blanca BusaLess said:
Doubts the source and insults the messenger.
Pays no attn second link wasn’t from the daily mail. So much for IQ.
I’d expect nothing less from a bootlicking apologist.
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Actually, since you posted two links, my post was not directed towards you. All I did was referring to the kind of people who thrive on tabloids.

Sound like the shoe fits though, so perhaps you should wear it.

Does the link below give anyone with a reasonable mind the notion that Israel would intentionally target aid workers? Even though Hamas usually ends up as the prime beneficiary of that aid?

 
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