MLK B-Day & Obama Inauguration

[raydog]

I admire and support the President for ALL he has done. I believe in his values, I love his family and think he is a wonderful man. He helps me be a proud American. I am a proud Progressive and am willing to forgive the congressional stonewalling and secret dinner's (where agreements to say no to everything/anything President Obama proposed) occurred. I've heard ALL the reasons some despise the man, and I disagree with both the reasons and the hateful reactions. Thankfully, the polls clearly show his increasing popularity and I will ride this wave to the end, including financial contributions.

 

[bisquit61]

Guess I am the sort of guy that means something to.

Me too.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Why is black in parenthesis? He's not black?

Oh boy, here we go.
Can we all just agree that he's red on the inside?

No MLK would be an OBama supporter.

No he wouldn't so nanny nanny boo boo. I'm rubber and your glue, whatever you say bounces off me
and sticks to you.

 

[sixpack577]

Martin Luther King was a great Christian man who stood for equal rights.
He helped pave the way to make black and white equal, as we are and always have been.
However, I can't see MLK support a communist muslim who supports abortion just because he's half black. To me that really cheapens what MLK stood for, and means that he would've supported Hitler as president...if he was black, which isn't far off.
It's great that America can vote a black man, or man of any color as our president.
I personally could care less what color the president or anyone else is, it's Obama's belifes that bother me.

 

[sixpack577]

Also, that maybe true, but I don't think you understand. I black man making it to the presidency is reason enough for a black person to vote for him. Also, what choice do we have? Nothing on the right that's for sure.

"A black man making it to the presidency is reason enough for a black person to vote for him."
What kind of logic is this? It isn't. Even though too many people think that way.
Keep in mind I'm a white guy who grew up with black and white folks alike. Myself an my family were not and are not racist. I don't care where anyone's ancestors came from or what color their skin is. I look at the individual.
Obama has always said "Change is coming to America", and he isn't kidding. Only he left it up to the individual to belive in their own mind what that change is. He's a smooth talker.
Watch the movie "Obama 2016"(which was released over 6 months ago) then look back. No conspiracy, and read Obama's autobiography. Listen to him say "A TRICK I learned was that if I could get people to like me I could get them to do what I want."
Obama is a communist set on destroying the America we all know. Disagree? That's fine, sit back and watch.
It'll affect black and white alike.
So, you as a black man want a black president? Even as regular old white guy I totally undertsand that. And, belive it or not, I'm all for it. Let a good black man show black, white, latino, asian, whoever, that anyone can be president.
Just let it be a man/women that is for this country, not intent on imposing his personal veiws on all.
Have the white presidents done a great job recently? Ha! Not hardly.
To vote a black man president just because he's black though, that's not only foolish...it's racist.
Keep in mind too, that if someone is racist, I could care less, as that's their less loss.


Also, as I've posted before.
Do some reading and you'll see that there are 6 levels of security clearance above the presidents head...6!
So black, white, purple, he's no more than a puppet to push the powers that be's agenda, whomever is really in charge behind the scenes(who actually belives one man is really in charge? Seriously, get a grip).
It's just come to point where it's more blatent now how the U.S is being taken down from the inside.
I guess in the future the black man will take the blame for Obama's responsibility in that.
Sad.

 

[fallenarch]

Just to clarify, I said voting for Obama because he is black is a very understandable and rational position for African Americans to take. I believe in Obama, agree with his politics, admire his amazing values, and his wisdom. If Obama were white, I would still have voted for him twice.

 

[fallenarch]

Oh boy, here we go.
Can we all just agree that he's red on the inside?




No he wouldn't so nanny nanny boo boo. I'm rubber and your glue, whatever you say bounces off me
and sticks to you.

I am black, I have been discriminated against, and I have a dream. So I get to speak for MLK on this forum backside at ya!

 

[mr8ball]

Marty I agree with you 100 % People should never do anything because of the color of someone. I am not racist at all and one of my best friends is a black man. I would never voted for anyone just for the color of his skin. I want someone that will do the best for our country. I would say a lot of people that have never voted, Voted for Obama just because of the color of his skin and that is just wrong. Now the big question for me is will people ever feel equal? Will people ever stop saying that the are owed for things that happened in the past that we had absolutely nothing to do with.

 

[sixpack577]

Just to clarify, I said voting for Obama because he is black is a very understandable and rational position for African Americans to take. I believe in Obama, agree with his politics, admire his amazing values, and his wisdom. If Obama were white, I would still have voted for him twice.

Understandable? Maybe, black people want to see a black president. I get it, and I'm for it.
I also get the idea of make a black man president to stick it to the white man. I've experienced racism many times growing up first hand against me, and against my black friends. It's stupid and sad. I understand where black people are coming from as much as any white person could.
Rational? Ha! Not hardly. Let any white guy that we know little about be the only candidate in a sea of black candidates.
Let white people vote for him because he's white, and only becasue he's white. That's foolish, stupid, insane, ect.
Black people wanting to keep our president only because he's black? Re-read the first line.
Sure, Obama made history and opened the door as our first black president. Honestly speaking, that is a great thing, but that's as far as it goes. Maybe now we can get black candidates in all parties and take the race card out of it.
We disagree on what Obama has done and will do to this country, and that's ok, I'm not trying to change your mind.

 

[fallenarch]

Marty I agree with you 100 % People should never do anything because of the color of someone. I am not racist at all and one of my best friends is a black man. I would never voted for anyone just for the color of his skin. I want someone that will do the best for our country. I would say a lot of people that have never voted, Voted for Obama just because of the color of his skin and that is just wrong. Now the big question for me is will people ever feel equal? Will people ever stop saying that the are owed for things that happened in the past that we had absolutely nothing to do with.

I'm sure you are sincere and I accept that. But I'm not about what happened 200 or 50 years ago but I have seen a lot in my own life and it is still happening to me now. I don't think anyone owes me anything and I have yet to find anyone I am not equal to on most levels. If there is anything MLK and Obama are examples of its the fact that many of the barriers we experience are self imposed, and that doors don't open until you push on them.

 

[m_ridgeway]

Why is black in parenthesis? He's not black?

Hes as much white as black, and I dont necessarily agree with defining people by just the color of their skin. It was the term used by o.p. So I followed suit. If we had an indian president should he be the brown or red president? Just my stance not meant to be demeaning.

 

[fallenarch]

Understandable? Maybe, black people want to see a black president. I get it, and I'm for it.
I also get the idea of make a black man president to stick it to the white man. I've experienced racism many times growing up first hand against me, and against my black friends. It's stupid and sad. I understand where black people are coming from as much as any white person could.
Rational? Ha! Not hardly. Let any white guy that we know little about be the only candidate in a sea of black candidates.
Let white people vote for him because he's white, and only becasue he's white. That's foolish, stupid, insane, ect.
Black people wanting to keep our president only because he's black? Re-read the first line.
Sure, Obama made history and opened the door as our first black president. Honestly speaking, that is a great thing, but that's as far as it goes. Maybe now we can get black candidates in all parties and take the race card out of it.
We disagree on what Obama has done and will do to this country, and that's ok, I'm not trying to change your mind.

Actually, you don't get it. But apparently you can ride a wheelie and that is the extent of my interest in your opinions

 

[sixpack577]

Marty I agree with you 100 % People should never do anything because of the color of someone. I am not racist at all and one of my best friends is a black man. I would never voted for anyone just for the color of his skin. I want someone that will do the best for our country. I would say a lot of people that have never voted, Voted for Obama just because of the color of his skin and that is just wrong. Now the big question for me is will people ever feel equal? Will people ever stop saying that the are owed for things that happened in the past that we had absolutely nothing to do with.

Who knows Doug.
Black, white, and everyone else alike need to wake up.
I personally am sick of hearing, Native American, African American, Latino American, Asian American, ect, ect.
Who cares!
Sure, be proud of your heritage. And lets all admit that in most cases we can take one look at each other and tell what part of the globe our ancestors came from.
But until we can take the ethnicity from in front of the word American, we will remain the divided states of America.
If you are a citizen, you are American!
Then we can get back to more important issues, like trying to teach common sense
And that guns don't kill people, killers with guns kill people.
See, it's all a big circle

No harm intended to you Arch, just a discussion.

 

[sixpack577]

Actually, you don't get it. But apparently you can ride a wheelie and that is the extent of my interest in your opinions

I said I get it...as much as a white person can.

 

[m_ridgeway]

Guess I am the sort of guy that means something to.

with this mentality, youre perpetuating the very thing youre believing youve overcome.

 

[sixpack577]

Hes as much white as black, and I dont necessarily agree with defining people by just the color of their skin. It was the term used by o.p. So I followed suit. If we had an indian president should he be the brown or red president? Just my stance not meant to be demeaning.

I tried to "like" this post, but for some reason it won't work.
So hear hear.

 

[fallenarch]

with this mentality, youre perpetuating the very thing youre believing youve overcome.

Not sure what you are trying to say. but having a black president means to me that there are a lot of good people in this country who really can vote with a color blind hand. That's something I would not have believed before Obama and yes, it has changed my view of this country.

 

[chrisjp]

in my humble opinion based on what i read that MLK stood for...i think he is rolling over in his grave

 

[sixpack577]

Let me tell you who really broke down the black white wall(not taking anything away from MLK, Rosa Parks, Booker T. Washington, or countless others that paved the way).
Are you ready?
Dr Dre and Snoop dog!
No, I'm not joking.
Early nineties Mtv put them in tons of homes...and young white folks homes.
Regardless if you support the violence and bad side of gangsta rap or not, those guys changed the face of America.
At 35 I witnessed that change first hand. The hate that Public Enemy got from the censors and big government (white America in the 80's)a few short years earlier had now changed.
Dre and Snoop hit the mainstream and forever changed white America, like it or not. They opened the door and gansta rap was mainstream and here to stay. You can't like rap and not like black folk. They bridged the gap.
Those white kids grew up, and had kids. Again, like rap or not, it tore down a huge barrier.
Alot of those white kids voted for Obama, and alot of them didn't...and didn't feel guilty or racist about it.

 

[fallenarch]

Dude you only read the last chapter and think you read the book! Have you heard of Chuck Berry, Ray Charles or Cadillac Records? Cultural mixing goes back to the plantation brother, it ain't a new thing.