You mean "Blue is Fast"? Haha
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Not if you buy into Quartararo's whining. Still threatening to leave because the Yamaha is the slowest bike on the Grid, even though he won more than any other rider on it last year. I just don't know where he would go? Same for Mir, I hear that Honda are trying to get him, but at what cost? There are some still fairly productive older guys on the grid that are going to get squeezed out for Younger, Hungrier, and ultimately cheaper riders in the next year or so. Guys like Dovi(35), Aleix(32), Zarco (31) and Nakagami(30) might find themselves on Superbikes (or re-retired...) sooner than later.
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If anyone has Shamazon Prime... Upcoming MotoGP docu-series.
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Amazon's MotoGP™ Unlimited to premiere in Madrid and Paris
Marc Marquez, Fabio Quartararo and more will be in attendance in the Spanish and French capitals this week
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Well, Quartararo has delivered the World Title to Yamaha and they seem to be mailing it in as far as development. Q knows the competition had passed the M1 at the end of last year and they are faster still, and he's going to defend his title on the slowest bike on the grid. Frankly, I would be seriously pissed if I was putting 100% out there every week and Yamaha rolled this crap up for me to ride. They did this with Rossi and Jorge on the double-clutch upgrade too. Seems Yamaha is not convinced that the M1 is getting long in the tooth and they don't seem too happy to up the money for a top to bottom rebuild.
I think Yamaha may have stayed with the inline 4 too long. The power they are getting out of the V4's is just too much for the smooth crossplane 4 to compete with. They will have to build a completely new bike to go to a V4, and no current V4 flows as sweet as the M1. The bottom line is Quartararo can't win if Yamaha doesn't want to win.
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Suzuki is still using an inline 4 and most teams are pointing to them and Honda as the most improved at the winter tests, which is saying something when you look at the revolutionary changes ($$$) Honda has thrown at the RCV. You cannot even begin to compare the budget delta between them! I personally think Yamaha has (for some time now) had a management problem in the form of Lin Jarvis! Look at the way Morbidelli was treated when he was still on the Sat bike and kicking the Factory guys butts. It wasn't until Rossi walked away that they begrudgingly gave him a factory bike. The Handling of Rossi, Lorenzo and even Ben Spies led them to leave the team (Rossi more than once). All of that (while it may not have been his doing directly) all happened on his watch! How much talent does a team have to squander before they acknowledge the primary issue? And it is not like they have a young gun ready to step into the factory squad if Fabio departs. No offence, but It sure isn't Darryn Binder.
The Suzuki is an inline 4 but it doesn't have the crossplane crank. The idea of the VVT was to keep the scream and add the grunt, basically a V4 right?Suzuki is still using an inline 4 and most teams are pointing to them and Honda as the most improved at the winter tests, which is saying something when you look at the revolutionary changes ($$$) Honda has thrown at the RCV. You cannot even begin to compare the budget delta between them! I personally think Yamaha has (for some time now) had a management problem in the form of Lin Jarvis! Look at the way Morbidelli was treated when he was still on the Sat bike and kicking the Factory guys butts. It wasn't until Rossi walked away that they begrudgingly gave him a factory bike. The Handling of Rossi, Lorenzo and even Ben Spies led them to leave the team (Rossi more than once). All of that (while it may not have been his doing directly) all happened on his watch! How much talent does a team have to squander before they acknowledge the primary issue? And it is not like they have a young gun ready to step into the factory squad if Fabio departs. No offence, but It sure isn't Darryn Binder.
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You lost me. I got the Cross plane crank reference, but the Variable Valve Timing? It was banned in 2016 if I'm not mistaken.
Didn't know that. I was thinking Suzuki was using it.
I thought this:
MotoGP has regulations surrounding the competing bikes specs, including a clause that forbids manufacturer to use variable valve timing technology. It reads: “Variable valve timing and variable valve lift systems, driven by hydraulic and/or electric/electronic systems, are not permitted.” Nobody said anything about a mechanical system, though! That’s the loophole Suzuki got its engineers working on a few years ago and in 2015, they found a solution. The system they came up with uses no oil or fancy electronics—it uses purely physics, centrifugal force to be specific, and tweaked phasers designs.
MotoGP has regulations surrounding the competing bikes specs, including a clause that forbids manufacturer to use variable valve timing technology. It reads: “Variable valve timing and variable valve lift systems, driven by hydraulic and/or electric/electronic systems, are not permitted.” Nobody said anything about a mechanical system, though! That’s the loophole Suzuki got its engineers working on a few years ago and in 2015, they found a solution. The system they came up with uses no oil or fancy electronics—it uses purely physics, centrifugal force to be specific, and tweaked phasers designs.
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And this!
www.gpone.com
MotoGP, Livio Suppo returns to MotoGP as Suzuki team manager
MotoGP: The former Honda man takes over from Davide Brivio, who left the Japanese manufacturer at the end of the 2020 season following Joan Mir's success.
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That's cool. Thanks!!!!!
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I hate to say it but I sort of miss the old Bein sports broadcast. Not digging NBC coverage lately.
I like MotoGP.com I like the real time thing and being able to watch when I want. Plus the interviews, press stuff, and full weekend coverage. But I'm going to watch some of these broadcasts you listed
Didja hear that Rossi’s MotoGP team bikes are Ducatis? “The Ducati is very strong” he said. I guess we’ll be seeing him at some of the races this season.
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MotoGP, Here are the bikes of the VR46 team. Valentino: "it's the closing of a circle"
MotoGP: ALL THE PHOTOS – Away come the veils from the Ducatis of Marini and Bezzecchi and the Kalex of Vietti and Antonelli on the stage of the Rossini theater in Pesaro
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The two Suzys are looking good. Prettiest colors out there. Even the undertail has sculpted lines. Note the position of the rearsets? They’re back there but don’t seem very high like I expected. What are those two lines in front of the rear tire? Hydraulic or air lines for the suspension squat for launching? Looking at those air foils in front I can’t understand what they accomplish. I’d lIke
to see what they do in a wind tunnel.
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