Hi. @ TTS superchargers P0werfulone. How much Hp to turn it. My friend has a supercharger and a max HP at the crank 900HP a max HP it takes 160 HP to turn his.Any dyno graphs on a gen 1. I’m very interested in this. Would make for a fun hand clutch drag bike.
So do you feel you will need to swap cams out or just set of adjustable cam sprocket to be be able to dial in stock cams?Gen 3 Dyno testing is giving some interesting results compared to the gen 2. We are massively up on midrange torque but losing out on top end power 320 whp compared to 360whp on pump gas. I've pulled the motor and checked the exhaust cam profile and its up on lift 0.6mm but down about 18 degrees on duration compared to gen 2. My feeling is that the valve overlap period has been drastically reduced for emissions and the motor cannot breathe at the top end. I have a few performance cams in stock so I'm going to check out some figures and put something else in. So watch this space.
Gen 2 cams work wellSo do you feel you will need to swap cams out or just set of adjustable cam sprocket to be be able to dial in stock cams?
do u think ull ever get out to do some land speed racing with the new intercooler to see if it actually works for prolonged heavy throttle applications? some datalogs and some LSR 220MPH runs would be nice and be proof of reliability and ability to cool. Bill Warner went 311mph with the ultra1000 air/water plenum... this is where i understand the plenum was developed... going for LSR records and pulling data... AND if any of your blown bikes go 220-225 with your air/air intercooler and the IATs arent bad, it even ELEVATES your product. I dont see any reason NOT to test it in this way.Gen 2 cams work well
sooo... 740 at the wheel? and u seen this sheet? or are these estimated power levels based off boost levels? If its legit.... why not share this brutal dyno hit? seems like good advertising if nothing else.Hi. @ TTS superchargers P0werfulone. How much Hp to turn it. My friend has a supercharger and a max HP at the crank 900HP a max HP it takes 160 HP to turn his.
Hi. OH. It is real the has gone deep in the 6.4 sect's in the 1/4 at an XDA meet it runs in Pro Street class. If you have an XDA race date sheet it is the bigger pic on the top it is the red and white bike from DAS. I will try to put up a photo.sooo... 740 at the wheel? and u seen this sheet? or are these estimated power levels based off boost levels? If its legit.... why not share this brutal dyno hit? seems like good advertising if nothing else.
i know the bike... and who he is... also moore mafia went 6.30s on mamba(Black mamba doesnt belong to moore mafia... its Carusos bike)... and claimed 700HP... i have no reason not to believe him... but same thing. i dont think he actually pushed 700HP through it on the dyno. they just throw 40 pounds of boost on meth at it and see what sticks. Those bikes are REALLY low and generally dont even have a cooling system. mamba is a really sharp lookin bike. Sam,e guy that owns mamba also has a grudge bike thats supposed to be even nastier. I LOVE mamba. not streetable at all tho. A LSR bike and a prostreet bike are completely different animals tho... completely different setups. At the high levels of LSR i think they even ADD weight/ballast to the bike.Hi. OH. It is real the has gone deep in the 6.4 sect's in the 1/4 at an XDA meet it runs in Pro Street class. If you have an XDA race date sheet it is the bigger pic on the top it is the red and white bike from DAS. I will try to put up a photo.
I would love to, its just opportunities. We did around 15 standing 3/8 miles (runway not long enough to get a full half mile and time to brake and the temps stayed below 60 deg C. That was the white gen 2. This gen 3 kit has a 40% bigger ic so it will be interesting to test. Will let you know when I get an opportunity>do u think ull ever get out to do some land speed racing with the new intercooler to see if it actually works for prolonged heavy throttle applications? some datalogs and some LSR 220MPH runs would be nice and be proof of reliability and ability to cool. Bill Warner went 311mph with the ultra1000 air/water plenum... this is where i understand the plenum was developed... going for LSR records and pulling data... AND if any of your blown bikes go 220-225 with your air/air intercooler and the IATs arent bad, it even ELEVATES your product. I dont see any reason NOT to test it in this way.
You' re selling 40 of these bikes right? Most people wont push these bikes that hard on the street but STILL. The McExpress FRONT mounted AIR/AIR intercoolers blocked the whole damn radiator almost and was RIGHT in the path of the incoming air and was functional up to a certain point and HP level. with THAT setup, its was a HUGE exchanger right up front with no obstructions whatsoever though. This 370 hp u got out of the blower setup... was that on pump gas?I would love to, its just opportunities. We did around 15 standing 3/8 miles (runway not long enough to get a full half mile and time to brake and the temps stayed below 60 deg C. That was the white gen 2. This gen 3 kit has a 40% bigger ic so it will be interesting to test. Will let you know when I get an opportunity>
Hi can you let us know if in a performance view the gen 2 cams will do the job in taking this bike to the next level when all motor talking since you have been testing or wich cams you can tell it will perform better?Gen 3 Dyno testing is giving some interesting results compared to the gen 2. We are massively up on midrange torque but losing out on top end power 320 whp compared to 360whp on pump gas. I've pulled the motor and checked the exhaust cam profile and its up on lift 0.6mm but down about 18 degrees on duration compared to gen 2. My feeling is that the valve overlap period has been drastically reduced for emissions and the motor cannot breathe at the top end. I have a few performance cams in stock so I'm going to check out some figures and put something else in. So watch this space.
Can you give more info on this theme? Thank youGen 2 cams work well
there is no next level... the best you are gonna get is gen2 level. its the same motor. with slightly different guts.Hi can you let us know if in a performance view the gen 2 cams will do the job in taking this bike to the next level when all motor talking since you have been testing or wich cams you can tell it will perform better?
Well see in the next few monthsthere is no next level... the best you are gonna get is gen2 level. its the same motor. with slightly different guts.
if ure looking for 230 HP... its REALLY worth the call to RCC to see how much just a stage 1 kit would cost. u can run as little as 4 pounds of boost... maybe even less, its just a spring in the wastegate that would control boost. I wouldnt do any 2 mile pulls with it becuase u wouldnt have an intercooler or meth injection. But u could run it on the street for 100 years before u hurt anything. a gen2 stage1 kit is 4600.... but some people are spending 2000 for an exhaust to gain 7 HP.Well see in the next few months
Ok thank you for the informationif ure looking for 230 HP... its REALLY worth the call to RCC to see how much just a stage 1 kit would cost. u can run as little as 4 pounds of boost... maybe even less, its just a spring in the wastegate that would control boost. I wouldnt do any 2 mile pulls with it becuase u wouldnt have an intercooler or meth injection. But u could run it on the street for 100 years before u hurt anything. a gen2 stage1 kit is 4600.... but some people are spending 2000 for an exhaust to gain 7 HP.
do u do any landspeed racing? he needs the data. Hes got that plenum on 40 different 54000 dollar bikes. hopefully it survives a 1.5 mile LSR pull.I'd love to get my hands on that Gen1 intercooler/plenum and test it with my snail...