New TTS Left side supercharger conversion for Gen 1, 2 and 3.

powerfulone said:
Al Fagen now of the 44 Teeth Youtube channel track tested the H2R back in 2015 its on the Fast Bikes Channel.
. He's a road racer but couldn't better 10.6 on the H2R in its standard form. He will be testing the SuperBusa in the next few weeks. As will Motorcyclenews channel and Bike World and Carwow. So watch this space:)
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How is boost controlled? There HAS TO be some way of controlling boost... what do those tables look like? We know a stock busa can cut a 1.5 60 foot... if u cant get a 1.5 60 foot time maybe just pull power out of it in first gear and let the jockey give it hell without trying to manage big power in first gear? ALSO... are u gonna put a sticky shinko/dragmax tire on it? The tire will make a difference... Lowering the bike would make the jockeys life easier also, no? Im hoping u see 170MPH.
 
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TucoSalimonca said:
How is boost controlled? There HAS TO be some way of controlling boost... what do those tables look like? We know a stock busa can cut a 1.5 60 foot... if u cant get a 1.5 60 foot time maybe just pull power out of it in first gear and let the jockey give it hell without trying to manage big power in first gear? ALSO... are u gonna put a sticky shinko/dragmax tire on it? The tire will make a difference... Lowering the bike would make the jockeys life easier also, no? Im hoping u see 170MPH.
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This isn't the first bike to use the TTS supercharger...nor is it the first Hayabusa, just the first gen 3. It will get to a science before long....

 
Bumblebee said:
This isn't the first bike to use the TTS supercharger...nor is it the first Hayabusa, just the first gen 3. It will get to a science before long....

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i get it.... i had a very specific question about boost control. I think he is working with woolich. Im curious to know what the boost control(very important when trying to go fast) looks like. im sure others are curious as well..
 
Bumblebee said:
Cool, wasn't sure....
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On a turbo rig there is a wastegate that can be controlled by an ams2000 boost controller and an air system... or even a standalone like a MAXXECU that puts pressure on the wastegate and controls boost that way. The standalone can even do traction control etc... almost anything. The ams2000 unlocked many many doors as far as racing is concerned. With its various boost control strategies........... with a blower bike... its different. We havent heard much about boost control with a blower bike. Its important...... with any FORCED INDUCTION and nobody has asked THAT question yet. Im sure any potential customers would like to see what the boost control strategy is and what the tables look like. One has to be able to turn it down and turn it up when necessary.
 
powerfulone said:
Al Fagen now of the 44 Teeth Youtube channel track tested the H2R back in 2015 its on the Fast Bikes Channel.
. He's a road racer but couldn't better 10.6 on the H2R in its standard form. He will be testing the SuperBusa in the next few weeks. As will Motorcyclenews channel and Bike World and Carwow. So watch this space:)
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I am really looking forward to this. Like Tuco said, I am interested in the tech on this thing. I have to watch the video again. I'm dying to see this monster on the track.

I still believe that this is the answer for the ultimate street bike. The roll race king if it could be dialed in. I think if it can be setup right it'll smoke the 300+hp H2's.
 
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greg3852 said:
I am really looking forward to this. Like Tuco said, I am interested in the tech on this thing. I have to watch the video again. I'm dying to see this monster on the track.

I still believe that this is the answer for the ultimate street bike. The roll race king if it could be dialed in. I think if it can be setup right it'll smoke the 300+hp H2's.
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from what i understand of blower CARS... like the badass street cars on street outlaws and such... the blower guys actually PULL TIMING to reduce power in certain situations. keeps it simple. again... this is what i understand from watching the show. It can be a fine tuning strategy when u dont wanna make major changes on how the setup goes about laying down power.
 
greg3852 said:
I am really looking forward to this. Like Tuco said, I am interested in the tech on this thing. I have to watch the video again. I'm dying to see this monster on the track.

I still believe that this is the answer for the ultimate street bike. The roll race king if it could be dialed in. I think if it can be setup right it'll smoke the 300+hp H2's.
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I agree. I think it's perfect for a street bike... I'd have the setup tommorrow if it wasn't for the exch rate..
I would go this over turbo for a street bike any day of the week..
 
TucoSalimonca said:
How is boost controlled? There HAS TO be some way of controlling boost... what do those tables look like? We know a stock busa can cut a 1.5 60 foot... if u cant get a 1.5 60 foot time maybe just pull power out of it in first gear and let the jockey give it hell without trying to manage big power in first gear? ALSO... are u gonna put a sticky shinko/dragmax tire on it? The tire will make a difference... Lowering the bike would make the jockeys life easier also, no? Im hoping u see 170MPH.
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Boost is controlled by throttle angle per gear. just like the factory map. 40% gives about 200hp, 60 gives about 300 etc. So originally I ran 40, 55, 70% for the first 3. But what i didn't take into account was the lift function also reducing power. I'm not sure whether this is by throttle angle or pulling timing. When i raced i played around with LF LC TC. I ended up with no TC not LC and LF on 3. last Sunday i went back to the track and the first run I did was with LF on 1 and straight away i did a stronger speed on the first 1/8 although my 60 was a little down and it was just about equal on my 1/4 time and speed. Unfortunately the event was then rained off. So all I have now is the Dragy and local airfield. But the bike isn't about 1/4 miles its about the general overall performance.
 
I called a local shop in my country about turbo/supercharging the gen 3 busa, the mechanic recommended that I not do this, because if I did, I'd 'lose' all the electronic controls (anti wheelie, tc etc).

Is this true? Or are the controls just less useful?

I mean they're controlled by an ecu right, so how would you just 'lose' them after the turbo was installed?
 
greg3852 said:
For me its usage would be a roll race bike. As such it’s 60-130 is a huge judge of the power and speed it will do during a race. As I would most likely be racing liter bikes and other boosted bikes, if it is slow compared to them it’s not for me. Hence the comment.
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Are you really comparing times to a full weight stock height Busa with near stock wheelbase with a large rider to roll race setup bikes?

Come on now, think about it for a second…

Even then 60-130 isn’t all about power, it’s about how well setup the chassis and wheelbase is and how light the combo is. Power would mean more in the 100-150 or 100-200 times.
 
I'm starting to get concerned after reading about that supercharger kit. Why is one part of me perfectly happy with my stock bike yet I feel another part of me is rubbing hands together as if a decision has been made without my consent?

A Hayabusa doesn't need a supercharger even if we got used to its power and feel it getting slower every time we ride it.
 
Raputā said:
I called a local shop in my country about turbo/supercharging the gen 3 busa, the mechanic recommended that I not do this, because if I did, I'd 'lose' all the electronic controls (anti wheelie, tc etc).

Is this true? Or are the controls just less useful?

I mean they're controlled by an ecu right, so how would you just 'lose' them after the turbo was installed?
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Total BS. All the controls are there and work perfectly. Check out my video's on youtube.
 
Raputā said:
I called a local shop in my country about turbo/supercharging the gen 3 busa, the mechanic recommended that I not do this, because if I did, I'd 'lose' all the electronic controls (anti wheelie, tc etc).

Is this true? Or are the controls just less useful?

I mean they're controlled by an ecu right, so how would you just 'lose' them after the turbo was installed?
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Have your mechanic watch the videos TTS did on the gen 3....
 
Raputā said:
I called a local shop in my country about turbo/supercharging the gen 3 busa, the mechanic recommended that I not do this, because if I did, I'd 'lose' all the electronic controls (anti wheelie, tc etc).

Is this true? Or are the controls just less useful?

I mean they're controlled by an ecu right, so how would you just 'lose' them after the turbo was installed?
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I would be sure to go out of my way to never take a bike to that shop if I was you. If he told you that he is definitely wrong and had no idea on how all that works. Its fine to not know about it but just say that to the customer instead of giving wrong info. Like Bumblebee said have that mechanic take a look at the videos tts has on YouTube and powerfulone has everything right there.
 
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