I was trying to avoid the new price tag so, found a 2022 with less than 2,000 miles at a significant discount.
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These little 500cc engines have only 50hp, the turbo had 82hp . . . yawn.
so . . no regrets losing the gen 2 and getting a gen 3?
I've had a ride on all 3 Gens now, and my impression is this...
Gen 1 = lightest model with raw with old school suspension, brakes, FI system
Gen 2= more refined with better brakes, similar suspension (maybe a little more plush) and far superior FI and more power
Gen 3 = Even more refined Suspension, brakes, electronics, power delivery, smooth as silk, lovely to ride!
No regrets so far. A lot of people have had a lot of issues with their gen3s but, thankfully, I have not experienced any of them with my 2022 model. Like you said, brakes are superb, supension feels nice, electronics package is awesome, gauges look crisp and high end, painted inner panels are a welcome addition from the factory and, even though I wasn’t sure about how much I liked the striking when they first came out, I think it looks great now. Suzuki engineers do hate their customers and decided to make it 100 times more complicated than the gen2 to remove the gas tank (I don’t think I’ll ever NOT be upset about the tank hardware redesign).
I wouldn't say no to a clean Gen 2.
I wish my Gen 1 had a legit cruise control. Only "real" complaint. Other than it needs a turbo of course...
If I had money to burn, I've heard that lightweight wheels are a game changer. Plus chicks dig them. I'd likely start there.
And some new riding gear. My jacket is 20 years old. I've never had a full set of leathers.
In a former life, someone really did a thorough job of sprucing up my particular bike. I'm lucky to have stumbled into a nicely sorted bike.
And some new riding gear. My jacket is 20 years old. I've never had a full set of leathers.
In a former life, someone really did a thorough job of sprucing up my particular bike. I'm lucky to have stumbled into a nicely sorted bike.
Turbo and cruise control is almost an oxymoron.
Turbo and cruise control is almost an oxymoron.
Hahahahaha!
That’s my favorite part on the gen3. My aftermarket cruise on the gen2 was nowhere near as good as this factory cruise.
As nice as brand new is...I wouldn't buy a new Gen3, as they seem to be a gamble for several issues, which is why I have not.
I may still buy one at some point, but it will definately be used for that reason.
As I would ride it first and hopefully know some of it's history from the owner.
I have seen quite a few sell in the $13k-$15k range with very low miles, and some with full exhausts and fender eliminators, which of course is $1500+ish in mods.
Beats $21k otd, and risking problems, with the hassle of it going back to the dealer, and being there for a while.
A couple years older is a little less on insurance as well.
I'm all for putting good suspension, brakes, wheels, etc on an older bike in good shape too, but having only sat on a Gen3, I did find it alot more comfortable than the Gen1 or Gen2, as the Gen3 gas tank and seat are different.
Having cruise control on my Goldwing answered my age old question, if I really wanted that on a sportbike, and as expected, it's a definate Yes!
Even to use cruise for a short time gives your right hand and wrist a nice break.
I would at least find a Gen3 to sit on, and see how it feels to you, if it's worth riding one or not.
I'de also think that it wouldn't be hard to test ride a used one from a private seller, if you show up on your Gen1.
I'm past the age of wanting the absolute fastest thing on the road(although that's always a plus, lol), but I truly belive that the most important thing to have on a motorcycle(assuming it already has good suspension and brakes, as they are a must)...is comfort, as if you're not comfortable, you can't truly enjoy the ride...which is the whole point of being on the road in the first place.
I don't think you can go wrong fixing up your Gen1, or Gen2, but if a Gen3 feels better to you, and you can find a good one...I think you'll answer your own questions.
And yes, I still hate Suzuki for not fixing all the Gen3's problems after the first year model.
I would've bought a new one already if they had.
For now I'll stick with my Goldwing and Gsxr1k, but still Might add a Gen3 myself, if I found a good one that I couldn't say no to...
I may still buy one at some point, but it will definately be used for that reason.
As I would ride it first and hopefully know some of it's history from the owner.
I have seen quite a few sell in the $13k-$15k range with very low miles, and some with full exhausts and fender eliminators, which of course is $1500+ish in mods.
Beats $21k otd, and risking problems, with the hassle of it going back to the dealer, and being there for a while.
A couple years older is a little less on insurance as well.
I'm all for putting good suspension, brakes, wheels, etc on an older bike in good shape too, but having only sat on a Gen3, I did find it alot more comfortable than the Gen1 or Gen2, as the Gen3 gas tank and seat are different.
Having cruise control on my Goldwing answered my age old question, if I really wanted that on a sportbike, and as expected, it's a definate Yes!
Even to use cruise for a short time gives your right hand and wrist a nice break.
I would at least find a Gen3 to sit on, and see how it feels to you, if it's worth riding one or not.
I'de also think that it wouldn't be hard to test ride a used one from a private seller, if you show up on your Gen1.
I'm past the age of wanting the absolute fastest thing on the road(although that's always a plus, lol), but I truly belive that the most important thing to have on a motorcycle(assuming it already has good suspension and brakes, as they are a must)...is comfort, as if you're not comfortable, you can't truly enjoy the ride...which is the whole point of being on the road in the first place.
I don't think you can go wrong fixing up your Gen1, or Gen2, but if a Gen3 feels better to you, and you can find a good one...I think you'll answer your own questions.
And yes, I still hate Suzuki for not fixing all the Gen3's problems after the first year model.
I would've bought a new one already if they had.
For now I'll stick with my Goldwing and Gsxr1k, but still Might add a Gen3 myself, if I found a good one that I couldn't say no to...
This begs the question of whether a person would be leaving the new steed bone stock or not. Knowing this crowd, probably not. So one must factor in the farkle factor to any new bike purchase. As you point out, $1,500 for the pipe and fender treatement.
I've long struggled with hanging on to stuff. I have a history of selling after a year or so. Not a great plan for financial security. But I'm mature now...
I think that if a person was to invest more than he will get out of an old scooter or auto, hanging on to it is key. Got $10k in your $5k car? As long as it gets the job done, hang on to it for a bit. Did I mention my old BMW..?
I think that if a person was to invest more than he will get out of an old scooter or auto, hanging on to it is key. Got $10k in your $5k car? As long as it gets the job done, hang on to it for a bit. Did I mention my old BMW..?
All valid points and reading it reminded me what you pointed out about insurance. I couldn’t believe it when the insurance agent told me my insurance was dropping to half the cost of my gen2. That was an added bonus I was not counting on.
This one is not too difficult to calculate for me. Even though @sixpack577 and @Bumblebee called me a lier,
I’m truly not planning on doing nearly as much to this gen3 as I did to the gen2. The gen2 had more money in faroles than what I paid for the bike new. I sold all the big ticket items (and even small ones) because the gen3 had a lot of them sorted. Cruise, switchback LEDs, functional mirrors, nice wheels, great brakes, black rearsets from the factory, nice front fender, painted inner panels and others im sure I’m forgetting, were already sorted from the factory and didn’t need messing with on this gen3. I recouped a couple of thousand dollars (a fraction of what I spent, as expected) to put towards the gen3. It helped that I kept most oem parts in the attic so just had to through them back on the gen2 before the sale.
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Would probably cost you $800+ to get it to you, so that cuts into the 'deal' factor...but $15k with a full exhaust and 6k miles is a great price.
This is what I would be looking for if I was actively Gen3 shopping.
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I’m planning to move on to a bagger within the next few years. Some of us are fortunate enough to have multiple bikes at once, but I am not. I commuted 2hrs round trip multiple days a week for the first year of ownership and never had an issue with hot starts or soft breaks. I’ll add a link to...www.hayabusa.org
Would probably cost you $800+ to get it to you, so that cuts into the 'deal' factor...but $15k with a full exhaust and 6k miles is a great price.
This is what I would be looking for if I was actively Gen3 shopping.
Beautiful.
Cheap insurance or overkill with a stock clutch?
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Cheap insurance or overkill with a stock clutch?
Hayabusa Billet Slave Support Block Gen 1 99-07
Hayabusa Billet Slave Support Block GEN 1 99-07 Support for the busa clutch slave cylinder. They are very strong and can be used with a cracked or even broken cover. Made from 6061 billet stock. They tuck right behind the overflow tank. They bolt right in place without bending or tweaking...
On a stock clutch Gen2 or Gen3, it would be overkill.
But on a stock clutch Gen1...it's cheap insurance.
That was a weak point on the Gen1's, and the casting was known to easily break with just heavier clutch springs, but stock ones failed too.
For $40, there's no reason not to.
I say cheap insurance. Like @sixpack577 mentioned, some people broke their covers on gen1s and posted on the forum about it.Cheap insurance or overkill with a stock clutch?
Hayabusa Billet Slave Support Block Gen 1 99-07
Hayabusa Billet Slave Support Block GEN 1 99-07 Support for the busa clutch slave cylinder. They are very strong and can be used with a cracked or even broken cover. Made from 6061 billet stock. They tuck right behind the overflow tank. They bolt right in place without bending or tweaking...
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