Russia and Ukraine

i want my money back too

meat grinder should stop
Crimea has always been 95% Russian speakers, crushchev for some bizarre reason moved Crimea into Ukraine in the1950s
draw a line Crime and dombas are basically all Russian speakers. make a new border and move on
In most pre-conflicts the people lived in harmony until they didn't...

Russia had no business invading like they did and if the world sat back and watch NATO would lose all it's credibility and teeth...once that happens the bad actor states will prevail and rule.

As we have learned from all the wars ever fought previously, just making a new border and moving on is never an option....blood has to be shed.....
 
There will be instability when you can't afford to live once the global supply chain gets wiped out....

Ukraine is the wheat basket of the world.

If the west were to sit back and allow Russia to take over Ukraine....who's next?

At one time North America was pretty immune to off-shore activities...that ship has sailed....

The global economy is fragile.
I don’t give a sh!t.
This country and especially Florida can be and were self sufficient. You’ve been led to believe you should care about Ukraine. You shouldn’t.
 
Yes, @Bumblebee you hit it on the head. We can spend a fortune in Ukraine or we will be sending our boys and girls to Europe to die stopping Russia. Can't we just offer Putin Florida instead?
I’d rather export you and all the rest of the leftys.
Go fight there ifn you wanna.

When our debt is zeroed
When every American has a home and a roof
When THIS country is beaming again ask me to care about some craphole european country
 
I don’t give a sh!t.
This country and especially Florida can be and were self sufficient. You’ve been led to believe you should care about Ukraine. You shouldn’t.
Definitely your own personal opinion.....and not that of the rest of the world.

The US enjoys it's status in the world, there is a price to be paid for that status and it isn't cheap....
 
You've been away for a bit and have come back unnecessarily angry for some reason.....
I haven’t been away
I’m always angry at govts that give billions of my descendants money away especially democrat ones
Actually I’m beyond angry and fed up with mental retards who can’t find their way off the same stage they walked onto telling me we should care about some far away craphole.
One of the most corrupt countries on earth and our money is going to save them? Screw that!! I’d bet my life Zelensky has videos of Biden bumping 8yr old girls. And that’s the only reason why we keep being pushed into this .
The world was fine when Putin owned Ukraine. It’ll be no different next time around. We aren’t going to win. Ukraine will never get Crimea or the Donbass back. Their country is literally in rubble that will never be rebuilt. Let somebody else fund this futile effort. I’m done with it.
The money we’ve given them could have and should have gone to much better domestic purposes
 
I haven’t been away
I’m always angry at govts that give billions of my descendants money away especially democrat ones
Actually I’m beyond angry and fed up with mental retards who can’t find their way off the same stage they walked onto telling me we should care about some far away craphole.
One of the most corrupt countries on earth and our money is going to save them? Screw that!! I’d bet my life Zelensky has videos of Biden bumping 8yr old girls. And that’s the only reason why we keep being pushed into this .
The world was fine when Putin owned Ukraine. It’ll be no different next time around. We aren’t going to win. Ukraine will never get Crimea or the Donbass back. Their country is literally in rubble that will never be rebuilt. Let somebody else fund this futile effort. I’m done with it.
The money we’ve given them could have and should have gone to much better domestic purposes
Whew.....

That's a lot of pent up anger....glad there is somewhere you can come to so you can vent it...

I disagree and believe NATO needs to curb oppressive states from consuming other countries at will...once this trend starts, there is no stopping them....

Good thing this way of thinking wasn't around during the two world wars after all they were in Europe too...and pacific islands...

There's lots of real time combat data being logged on all the equipment that was sent there and I can guarantee the battles are studied to see what works and where.....NATO is gaining valuable information by having someone else fight...
 
Whew.....

That's a lot of pent up anger....glad there is somewhere you can come to so you can vent it...

I disagree and believe NATO needs to curb oppressive states from consuming other countries at will...once this trend starts, there is no stopping them....

Good thing this way of thinking wasn't around during the two world wars after all they were in Europe too...and pacific islands...

There's lots of real time combat data being logged on all the equipment that was sent there and I can guarantee the battles are studied to see what works and where.....NATO is gaining valuable information by having someone else fight...
You have yet to see anger
Let the democrats keep shouting insurrection and poking the bear
They may get what they deserve one day hopefully sooner than later so my kids can live in peace

I want OUT of ukraine. They don’t deserve a single dollar
 
You have yet to see anger
Let the democrats keep shouting insurrection and poking the bear
They may get what they deserve one day hopefully sooner than later so my kids can live in peace

I want OUT of ukraine. They don’t deserve a single dollar
Surprisingly your anger doesn't frighten me over the internet as it wouldn't in person...I don't frighten easily...I've been scared before though...

The US has decreed that it is the world police force as evident by it's sticking its nose into almost every other country...

Being in the Ukraine is no different however now the data they are collecting is invaluable and will save American/NATO military lives in the future.

If what you wish for comes true, America as the world knows it could be in real peril...
 
Perhaps there needs to be a national referendum over support to Ukraine and if the majority of Americans say it has to be ceased then it should be...

That would be the right way to do it...
Ya think? Just give billions and billions to them and not a single tax payer or voter actually approved it.
Trillions in DEBT and here we are tossing billions down the toilet like it’s play time. Enough.

You have no need to fear me. We’d be on same side when it pops off.
 
Ya think? Just give billions and billions to them and not a single tax payer or voter actually approved it.
Trillions in DEBT and here we are tossing billions down the toilet like it’s play time. Enough.

You have no need to fear me. We’d be on same side when it pops off.
My wife and I have these discussions and we both agree that issues at home should take precedence and that taxpayers should have a say where our money is spent and why......

Our leader here spreads taxpayer money around like a drunken sailor with zero regard of how bad things are getting here....

He keeps bringing in more and more immigrants while we have university students sleeping in tents....and that's just one small example of his incompetence....
 
My wife and I have these discussions and we both agree that issues at home should take precedence and that taxpayers should have a say where our money is spent and why......

Our leader here spreads taxpayer money around like a drunken sailor with zero regard of how bad things are getting here....

He keeps bringing in more and more immigrants while we have university students sleeping in tents....and that's just one small example of his incompetence....
Leftists/liberals/democrats all spout crap until it comes time to actually do it. Every single one was oh we are a sanctuary city, oh you’re welcome to come, oh Texas is so mean, oh we’d accept everyone…..
Annnnd then 50 show up to Martha’s Vineyard without weed eaters or blowers in their hands and less than 24 hours later they were rounded up and moved to a military base. Super rich elites living in 40 million dollar homes with 20 bedrooms. How many people did those aholes take in? NONE.
Governor of NY
Mayor of NYC
Mayor of Chicago
All three democrat lying hypocrite buttwipes. Now that the illegals are there instead of elsewhere it’s we can’t handle this.
Richest city in the nation NYC can’t handle a hundred thousand or so but they think Texas and Arizona can and should continue to handle millions?
Gov Abbot needs to start sending trains full not busses.
 
Leftists/liberals/democrats all spout crap until it comes time to actually do it. Every single one was oh we are a sanctuary city, oh you’re welcome to come, oh Texas is so mean, oh we’d accept everyone…..
Annnnd then 50 show up to Martha’s Vineyard without weed eaters or blowers in their hands and less than 24 hours later they were rounded up and moved to a military base. Super rich elites living in 40 million dollar homes with 20 bedrooms. How many people did those aholes take in? NONE.
Governor of NY
Mayor of NYC
Mayor of Chicago
All three democrat lying hypocrite buttwipes. Now that the illegals are there instead of elsewhere it’s we can’t handle this.
Richest city in the nation NYC can’t handle a hundred thousand or so but they think Texas and Arizona can and should continue to handle millions?
Gov Abbot needs to start sending trains full not busses.
I personally was invited to Houston Tx to meet with Summit Partners to discuss movement of their indigent care population (indigent means no pay). First we review the problem. Each bed at their facility generates 4K a day for the space it occupies. Not including Dr generated rounds imaging, transfer etc. Their IC load was between 30-35%. All facilities were 4000 beds. So 1200ish beds.

They have adopted 24/7 surgical suites. So they can generate more revenue. They are still facing the realistic possibility of bankruptcy. They can't operate if they don't have beds to put them in.

90% of the IC were migrants. It seems the govt decided it's inhumane to hold them in processing facilities for more than 60 days. So they put ankle bracelets on them, provide them a phone, so the attorneys can stay in contact as they proceed they the immigration legal system. Which takes something like 2 years now. Within a week or so they learn if they dial 911, they get an ambulance ride to the hospital.

And they all have similar maladies. One example. Abdominal pains from unknown cause. Which takes about 4 or 5 days to check off all the legal boxes that fulfils their medical obligation to test, image, exam and clear. Everyone in the provider ladder knows, any hint of negligence or lack of procedural protocol will result in same said attorneys engaging them in a malpractice suit.

It's a never ending flow of hamster wheel traffic. They sometimes get the same patient multiple times.

So they want to transport them away outside of their service area, so it becomes some other hospital chains problem.

If any of you that live in a city start losing your hospitals, you are in 3rd world pretty quickly.
 
I’d rather export you and all the rest of the leftys.
Go fight there ifn you wanna.

When our debt is zeroed
When every American has a home and a roof
When THIS country is beaming again ask me to care about some craphole european country
I'll be honest here. That's an ignorant position. It ignores history, it ignores that Republicans are the factual debt kings, and it ignores the fact that the "beaming America" you talk about was built on spreading and maintaining peace around the world.
 
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