Russia and Ukraine

FB_IMG_1647088906326.jpg
 
As for green ambitions, we are locked in a circle where we give away a huge part of our resources both personally and as a country to cartels that are allowed to embroil the world in foolish squabbles. All this when energy can be free, as the sun is completely democratic. The green movement, aside from keeping our world more comfortable to inhabit, is a future economy. Building a new future will build new fortunes, just as it has in the case of the industrial revolution and the agricultural revolution before that.

History is the marker that tells us we have passed this way before. That's why the dictators and autocrats move immediately to erase our understanding of how things came to be.
Let’s get back to the topic of the thread.

Opinion about how Biden is handling the Russian Ukraine situation:

You are in the 36% group while I am in the 64% group.


I believe there are many avenues past and future to resolve the oil price issue and I know that the situation is adding substantially to inflation.

You believe inflation is a simple result of capitalism and an overheated economy.

I believe inflation is a result of the Fed being asleep at the wheel under Biden’s watch. I know that oil prices adds to the problem and makes it really hard for the Fed to implement rate hikes. So the result is a Bear market and we all are feeling the pain.

You think that is simply a green energy game Biden is playing.

Finally, I believe under really strong leadership, Afghanistan would have ended very different and Ukraine would not have happened.
 
Let’s get back to the topic of the thread.

Opinion about how Biden is handling the Russian Ukraine situation:

You are in the 36% group while I am in the 64% group.


I believe there are many avenues past and future to resolve the oil price issue and I know that the situation is adding substantially to inflation.

You believe inflation is a simple result of capitalism and an overheated economy.

I believe inflation is a result of the Fed being asleep at the wheel under Biden’s watch. I know that oil prices adds to the problem and makes it really hard for the Fed to implement rate hikes. So the result is a Bear market and we all are feeling the pain.

You think that is simply a green energy game Biden is playing.

Finally, I believe under really strong leadership, Afghanistan would have ended very different and Ukraine would not have happened.
Your last sentence is complete conjecture....
 
Cause of opec, that would literally start a world war. We are binded to buying and importing oil just like other countries are binded to buy and importing our oil. Many countries would collapse if we strictly kept our resources to our selves in Canada and didn’t import or export even if we technically don’t need it import.
We were an oil exporter 3 years ago. The market did not collapse because of it. Every ounce of oil sold from the Middle East is tied to the petrodollar. They won't stop selling oil because we are less dependent on them. If anything it ensures they will always sell oil.

None of that has a dang thing to do with a "Green" agenda.
 
This world doesn't have much going for it in terms of leadership at this time. Though we do have some good people in business and government, what we really have is a bunch of sociopaths and psychopaths running this world and protecting the producers of that black crude that is powering this world.

No answers for how to solve our dependency on oil will come from DC, Moscow, Beijing, or any other center of power. We are as close or closer to nuclear annililation now as we were during the Cuban missile crisis. The only thing that saved us was the realization by Kruschev and his cabinet was that to start sending nuclear missiles into targets in the United States that it could very easily become Armageddon for humanity as a whole.

Putin is a fool, a liar and an abuser of his power. If other leaders of countries were to step up the mischief level like he is doing right now then we could move several steps closer an ecological world wide disaster.
 
I really like how these numbers show us what's wrong with using oil for energy. So simple that 5th graders could make a solid case for the switch to zero point energy that is decentralized and been with us for decades.
I agree a 100%

The thing is in reading this thread, one has to be practical.

Replacing oil with green energy at the least has to consider not running out of energy, because the green options are not sufficiently available yet. Phasing out crude needs careful resource planning, rather than trying to be politically correct.

Strategic resources planning considering global energy needs, seems a skill the Biden Administration do not possess.
 
Your last sentence is complete conjecture....
Conjecture means a conclusion reached on the basis of incomplete information.

So let’s look at what we have and what we do not have.

Rumsfeld, bless his soul, new exactly what was happening in Afghanistan. He knew we were never going to win, and he knew the Taliban will remain dominant once Western influence disappears. He actually wrote a few letters to his generals, asking desperately for help. The previous Administration came to the same realization and started talks with the Taliban, towards strategically working at how to exit. Then came the new Administration and the strategy changed, they blamed the old Administration and exited in a way which made America the laughing stock of the world. Putin was actually pretty vocal about that, respect was lost.

The new Administration started smooching NATO openly. A great strategy, but totally flawed in its execution. Putin took offense, compared it to Kennedy’s Cuba.

Russia started preparing their forces and we did NOTHING other than idle talk about it. There was no counter action, nothing, ziltch, other than wining.

Biden publicly broadcasts the message of how scared he is of Putin. By saying if we do this, or if we do that, we cannot as it would invoke WWIII. Sure, that is not what we want, but is it really necessary to stroke Putin’s ego that way and boost his confidence?

It’s too late now, but Bee, that is what I know. The world no longer respects the US. I am pretty sure if we had a President with Kennedy’s wisdom and b@lls today, there would be a pretty good chance of Putin thinking twice.

But Bee, you and I never agree about much anyway. At least this is not a technical engineering discussion, because the stuff you post sometimes just makes me shake my head.
 
I agree a 100%

The thing is in reading this thread, one has to be practical.

Replacing oil with green energy at the least has to consider not running out of energy, because the green options are not sufficiently available yet. Phasing out crude needs careful resource planning, rather than trying to be politically correct.

Strategic resources planning considering global energy needs, seems a skill the Biden Administration do not possess.
The problem with green energy is that much of it is really not all that green in terms of what it took create those solar panels as one example. Add to that what does it cost to build a windmill, install it, hook to the grid, and maintain it? What happens when all these solar panels up now that took substantial energy to produce in the first place are no longer working? What about all the lithium batteries in todays electric cars that took a lot of energy to produce? Where are all those batteries going to end up as mass adoption of electric cars continues to grow? When somebody plugs in their electric cars to recharge with electrical energy it usually comes from an oil based source like coal or a LNG power source... how is that going green?

Zero point energy is being suppressed from mass adoption. Tesla was developing some high tech ways of producing power from what he called the infinite energy field that would make oil based energy obsolete.

As unconnected to reality as all of that sounds... just consider how alien crafts are able to move the way they do... pretty sure they know plenty more than we do about energy production and control that we are far away from using at this time.
 
Conjecture means a conclusion reached on the basis of incomplete information.

So let’s look at what we have and what we do not have.

Rumsfeld, bless his soul, new exactly what was happening in Afghanistan. He knew we were never going to win, and he knew the Taliban will remain dominant once Western influence disappears. He actually wrote a few letters to his generals, asking desperately for help. The previous Administration came to the same realization and started talks with the Taliban, towards strategically working at how to exit. Then came the new Administration and the strategy changed, they blamed the old Administration and exited in a way which made America the laughing stock of the world. Putin was actually pretty vocal about that, respect was lost.

The new Administration started smooching NATO openly. A great strategy, but totally flawed in its execution. Putin took offense, compared it to Kennedy’s Cuba.

Russia started preparing their forces and we did NOTHING other than idle talk about it. There was no counter action, nothing, ziltch, other than wining.

Biden publicly broadcasts the message of how scared he is of Putin. By saying if we do this, or if we do that, we cannot as it would invoke WWIII. Sure, that is not what we want, but is it really necessary to stroke Putin’s ego that way and boost his confidence?

It’s too late now, but Bee, that is what I know. The world no longer respects the US. I am pretty sure if we had a President with Kennedy’s wisdom and b@lls today, there would be a pretty good chance of Putin thinking twice.

But Bee, you and I never agree about much anyway. At least this is not a technical engineering discussion, because the stuff you post sometimes just makes me shake my head.
Do you honestly think the world respected the US before? The world was scared of the US but didn't respect it....

We've discussed the withdrawal of troops out of Afghanistan at length and I stand behind what I said...there was no pretty way to get out of there.....the plan was to have the ANA/ANP and puppet government in place then the withdrawal of forces would have been much simpler, once that whole situation collapsed in a big ball of crap and the Taliban basically walked into power...they were basically doing it under fire or threat of fire and any plan was thrown out the window....

The withdrawal wasn't pretty nor was it textbook in any way....but at that point there were few options.

I may not know a whole heck of a lot about Technical Engineering but I do hold a degree and have 33 yrs of military special forces training behind me......so don't shake your head too hard...
 
I agree a 100%

The thing is in reading this thread, one has to be practical.

Replacing oil with green energy at the least has to consider not running out of energy, because the green options are not sufficiently available yet. Phasing out crude needs careful resource planning, rather than trying to be politically correct.

Strategic resources planning considering global energy needs, seems a skill the Biden Administration do not possess.
Sadly the U.S. political system as a whole have NO plan to convert to green in a strategic way. The right just ignores the fact we need to transition. The left just expects it to happen by making us suffer if we don't transition.
 
Conjecture means a conclusion reached on the basis of incomplete information.

So let’s look at what we have and what we do not have.

Rumsfeld, bless his soul, new exactly what was happening in Afghanistan. He knew we were never going to win, and he knew the Taliban will remain dominant once Western influence disappears. He actually wrote a few letters to his generals, asking desperately for help. The previous Administration came to the same realization and started talks with the Taliban, towards strategically working at how to exit. Then came the new Administration and the strategy changed, they blamed the old Administration and exited in a way which made America the laughing stock of the world. Putin was actually pretty vocal about that, respect was lost.

The new Administration started smooching NATO openly. A great strategy, but totally flawed in its execution. Putin took offense, compared it to Kennedy’s Cuba.

Russia started preparing their forces and we did NOTHING other than idle talk about it. There was no counter action, nothing, ziltch, other than wining.

Biden publicly broadcasts the message of how scared he is of Putin. By saying if we do this, or if we do that, we cannot as it would invoke WWIII. Sure, that is not what we want, but is it really necessary to stroke Putin’s ego that way and boost his confidence?

It’s too late now, but Bee, that is what I know. The world no longer respects the US. I am pretty sure if we had a President with Kennedy’s wisdom and b@lls today, there would be a pretty good chance of Putin thinking twice.

But Bee, you and I never agree about much anyway. At least this is not a technical engineering discussion, because the stuff you post sometimes just makes me shake my head.
That all being said, imagine if we all agreed to everything here, this would be a very boring forum to belong to...

A little controversy is good.
 
That all being said, imagine if we all agreed to everything here, this would be a very boring forum to belong to...

A little controversy is good.
I'm surprised it's made it this far without placing blame on Trump for Ukraine, the price of gas, the inflation numbers, North Korea launching missiles about once a month, the loss of jobs, lack of creation of jobs, the chip shortage, the loss of the bridge in Pa., the influx of illegals going unchecked at the Texas border, and both the Cuomo brothers being scumbags around women.

I'm impressed.
 
Last edited:
I'm surprised it's made it this far without placing blame on Trump for Ukraine, the price of gas, the inflation numbers, North Korea launching missiles about once a month, the loss of jobs, lack of creation of jobs, the chip shortage, the loss of the bridge in Pa., the influx of illegals going unchecked at the Texas border, and both the Cuomo brothers being scumbags around women.

I'm impressed.
Yes, oddly enough, this thread has for the most part stayed on point and hasn't got nasty like some of the others have...
 
I'm surprised it's made it this far without placing blame on Trump for Ukraine, the price of gas, the inflation numbers, North Korea launching missiles about once a month, the loss of jobs, lack of creation of jobs, the chip shortage, the loss of the bridge in Pa., the influx of illegals going unchecked at the Texas border, and both the Cuomo brothers being scumbags around women.

I'm impressed.
Me too...

The issues facing the world have been brewing for decades with no end in sight.

We keep hearing little snippets of justice being served to those that need it desperately... then, we become unimpressed / dissapointed because the rumor didn't become reality.
 
There is no way to transition because the oil people are so powerful. There are some who say disruptor groups like the Tea Party were funded by big oil to make democracy dysfunctional. A normal, functional democracy would have had electric cars, wind/solar-powered cities, and 200+ mph bullet trains running across this country decades ago.

And @jellyrug , just because more people share your miscalculations doesn't mean you're right. Haha
 
Do you honestly think the world respected the US before? The world was scared of the US but didn't respect it.... We've discussed the withdrawal of troops out of Afghanistan at length and I stand behind what I said...there was no pretty way to get out of there.....the plan was to have the ANA/ANP and puppet government in place then the withdrawal of forces would have been much simpler, once that whole situation collapsed in a big ball of crap and the Taliban basically walked into power...they were basically doing it under fire or threat of fire and any plan was thrown out the window.... The withdrawal wasn't pretty nor was it textbook in any way....but at that point there were few options. I may not know a whole heck of a lot about Technical Engineering but I do hold a degree and have 33 yrs of military special forces training behind me......so don't shake your head too hard...
Do you honestly think the world respected the US before? The world was scared of the US but didn't respect it....

We've discussed the withdrawal of troops out of Afghanistan at length and I stand behind what I said...there was no pretty way to get out of there.....the plan was to have the ANA/ANP and puppet government in place then the withdrawal of forces would have been much simpler, once that whole situation collapsed in a big ball of crap and the Taliban basically walked into power...they were basically doing it under fire or threat of fire and any plan was thrown out the window....

The withdrawal wasn't pretty nor was it textbook in any way....but at that point there were few options.

I may not know a whole heck of a lot about Technical Engineering but I do hold a degree and have 33 yrs of military special forces training behind me......so don't shake your head too hard...
“Do I honestly think the world respected the US before”

You may not respect us Americans, however I am extremely proud to be a US Citizen.

Perhaps Canada never did, it is a classic case of those who gives too much are taken for granted and never appreciated.

But to answer your question, yes I really do. I lived more than half my life outside the US, lived in three other countries before, did business in several. I certainly had a lot of respect before I moved here and experienced the same respect given from people I mingled with. Both Hillary and Trump did a lot of damage to this country, unfortunately.
I visited Canada often, once a month at least on business, from 2009 to 2016 and in some ways it compares a lot to my country of birth, except it is a lot safer. That said I would much rather live in the US.
 
“Do I honestly think the world respected the US before”

You may not respect us Americans, however I am extremely proud to be a US Citizen.

Perhaps Canada never did, it is a classic case of those who gives too much are taken for granted and never appreciated.

But to answer your question, yes I really do. I lived more than half my life outside the US, lived in three other countries before, did business in several. I certainly had a lot of respect before I moved here and experienced the same respect given from people I mingled with. Both Hillary and Trump did a lot of damage to this country, unfortunately.
I visited Canada often, once a month at least on business, from 2009 to 2016 and in some ways it compares a lot to my country of birth, except it is a lot safer. That said I would much rather live in the US.
I almost laughed out loud at that one...

In what context did you read that I personally don't respect Americans or people of Canada don't respect Americans...both are false.

My family came here from the US and I have a huge number of them living there still...

I find Canada and the US have much more in common than we have with the UK...our culture is a mix of the two....many, many, Canadians spend quite a bit of time in the US as did I when training with various units...I've also deployed with certain US units conducting ops....

The world as a whole doesn't respect the US...many of them are afraid of the military might the US brings to their shores but they don't respect the people....I've been mistaken for an American several times and when they found out I was Canadian, their attitude towards me made a drastic change.

I've even had US troops I was travelling with ask me for a Canadian flag pin to put on their clothes as they get more respect with that pin. Seen it first hand....I'm not happy about it, just reporting my observations.

We captured a Taliban commander who told us he thought he was attacking Americans...he had no interest in attacking Canadians...

Don't know what to tell you other than I was told by a UK fellow that he was a better Canadian than I was because he chose to come to Canada and I was only born here....I laughed at that one.....(after I resisted the urge to throat punch him that is....).
 
I almost laughed out loud at that one...

In what context did you read that I personally don't respect Americans or people of Canada don't respect Americans...both are false.

My family came here from the US and I have a huge number of them living there still...

I find Canada and the US have much more in common than we have with the UK...our culture is a mix of the two....many, many, Canadians spend quite a bit of time in the US as did I when training with various units...I've also deployed with certain US units conducting ops....

The world as a whole doesn't respect the US...many of them are afraid of the military might the US brings to their shores but they don't respect the people....I've been mistaken for an American several times and when they found out I was Canadian, their attitude towards me made a drastic change.

I've even had US troops I was travelling with ask me for a Canadian flag pin to put on their clothes as they get more respect with that pin. Seen it first hand....I'm not happy about it, just reporting my observations.

We captured a Taliban commander who told us he thought he was attacking Americans...he had no interest in attacking Canadians...

Don't know what to tell you other than I was told by a UK fellow that he was a better Canadian than I was because he chose to come to Canada and I was only born here....I laughed at that one.....(after I resisted the urge to throat punch him that is....).
This is what you wrote:

Quote: Do you honestly think the world respected the US before? The world was scared of the US but didn't respect it....
Unquote:

Here is the thing Bee. Once you write something on the internet, it may stay there forever. Scroll back up to your post and read it a few times out aloud. Perhaps then you will realize what you actually wrote.
 
Back
Top