But if the antelopes had an assault rifle those lions would run!!!
Should guns be banned?
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No doubt about more killings in Chicago.
1busa
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In the wild west everybody carried guns on their hips, rifles propped against the walls next to their rocking chairs and there was still bank robberies, still murders, and rapes. The only difference now and back then is you have a whole lot less people dead over drunken arguments and card games
As we talk on this forum I realize that I am still learning things about people and our demographics. This past election is a good example (From a very high level of course I do not want to digress into the election) that according to the maps of the country Romney won the vast majority of the country as far as area is concerned but Obama won the populated areas IE LA, NY, San Fran and so on. I'm sure that what is routine for me, ie shooting on the weekends, stepping out my back door and firing off rounds is a completely alien to I would bet anyone from a large city...
So I ask, is this issue if gun control a states issue to deal with? Should everyone be limited because of the problems in the populated areas?
CAp
So I ask, is this issue if gun control a states issue to deal with? Should everyone be limited because of the problems in the populated areas?
CAp
Very good point Capt. However if I had a gun I would want some consistency in the laws. It would suck to have to figure out what to do with a gun as you travel across several states. I don't even own a gun but that seems like a problem.
DevilDawg1
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You make some good points, Georgia is about the same with one being chambered with a permit. But I kind of think if everybody knows that everyone is armed there would be less of the bad stuff happening.
masterblaster
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Its a Constitutional (Federal) issue, courts rule, congress and the pres do everything they can to control the population especially by making the people reliant on gubberment, self reliant people who can protect themselves don't need much "help" from the government do they. If the SCOTUS ever joins their effort the country will descend into a bad period (internal dissension is what the Chinese call it)in a short period of time.
Short answer, no.
I deal with that exact issue on a daily basis Cap, I live in populated area, so no guns in the back yard, but a 10min drive away is country side with plenty of sage shooting areas, yet NYC's problems still make my laws. It's just rediculous that upstate is controlled by the criminal population of the city.
At some level I agree with you but we can't with one fail swoop ban guns everywhere because the heavily populated areas are having social issues... States have different laws on guns, so maybe this issue is no different on a big level...
Mental illness is definately a problem but I'm not sure how you would quantify mental illness. This latest shooter never owned a gun, he never bought a gun, he used a gun...
I completely disagree, Chicago has had a ban on handguns for what 30 years.. Hasn't affected me one bit... Oklahoma has an open carry and other states don't, how many people in the NE does that affect? What is normal in Oklahoma might be something that you could never comprehend, just as there is the way of life in NY and LA that I just can't comprehend..
masterblaster
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Unfortunately our society has made these monsters and we have shielded them from the Darwin effect. End of the day I will not give up my rights or freedoms for anything,,,,, ever.
DevilDawg1
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Also if you shot somebody in self defense, that was the end of it. And if you murdered someone you were hung in public.
Capt Colombine and the recent movie theater shooting were both in a 'rural' area as you say and not in a populated area. The school shooting was also not a populated area.
I don't recall a mass shooting in a major city? But yes it may not be a bad idea to be a state thing because to step outside in your neck of the woods is a different thing than in New Jersey.
I don't recall a mass shooting in a major city? But yes it may not be a bad idea to be a state thing because to step outside in your neck of the woods is a different thing than in New Jersey.
Willie you have this problem now... Try driving through other states with a concealed carry.. Unless you have reciprocity it's against the law...
1busa
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After 9/11 the government put sky marshalls on the airplanes to make sure it never happens again. They might not be on every flight but and may be obvious to spot at times but you know there is a possibility. Walmart has secret shoppers that walk around and pretend to be shopping while looking out for shop lifters. Why cant we provide this type of security to major populated areas like malls, theatres, schools, etc. The best case scenario I can see for right now is to employ Public Marshalls. Hire ex military, off duty or retired cops, or civillians that meet the criteria to patrol populated areas and guard against future attacks. Sounds unrealistic I know but honestly any laws or bans imposed by the government is gonna have so much red tape and be dragged through the mud and appealed that it will have little to no effect on the now.
masterblaster
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Ya see the problem with this is we have the supremacy of the federal constitution that all the states signed on to, this is what we had a civil war about, some states said black people were property even though the constitution said they were not, ya cant abridge peoples rights in different states without affecting all of us. ( I know the causes of civil war were much more complicate just trying to simplify it for brevity of typing and get teh basic point across)
Columbine is a suburb of Denver.......
Aurora also a suburb of Denver.......
This last shooting is not because of a gun law but because of a mentally unstable person... He killed someone to get their guns, he didn't buy them.. My fear is that folks are going to try to use emotion to force change for their cause...
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