Should I get a Hayabusa as my first bike?

[Mr Bogus]

I posted this post in another Hayabusa message board and got similar replies and poll responses. After reading the beginner's bike articles (about what the ideal first motorcycles should be and why), I realize that I should start out in a much smaller bike to have more fun and to develop skills to be a better driver in a much safer way. I'm leaning towards a brand-new 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R. At $3,499 with its redesigned look, lighter dry weight, smaller engine, relatively low seat height, a 50-60 MPG fuel economy, and a more upright stance, it can't be beat. My Hayabusa dream is still alive and kicking and will only be realized after at least a year's worth of daily driving with the 250cc motorcyle. Right now, I'm just going to study for NJ's computerized knowledge test, register for a motorcycle safety school, get my license, and buy the brand-new Ninja along with the best safety equipment that money can buy. Thanks again for the opinions.

I for one am stunned! This just goes to prove that there are still people with common sense in the world. Good for you! Your decision has proved me wrong and I could not be happier about it!

qudos!

Yes it still stuns me that some would condone a "busa" as a first bike...

No disrespect for you guys that did it but I sure wish you could see the results that normally follow this type of decision. From the Supersport 600's and up, the numbers are pretty scarey..

There are exceptions to every rule but I feel some sense of responsibility when suggesting a guy buy a Hayabusa. Does it ever occur that every known authority on bikes is wholeheartedly against such a decision... I feel bad for the first responders that have to mop up..

The Busa is bike number 20 something for me and I was still hesitant about purchasing, go figure..

Anyway, even if the Busa is on hold for now, the fun of motorcycle riding is not...

Size/speed has little to do with fun (but it has a lot to do with fear factor)...

IF you can find some riders that ride the "Pace" you will find some great skills in the groups.. Just Google "Riding the Pace" (is great fun btw and emphasizes riding skill not speed per-sey

http://www.fjrowners.ws/pace.html a good article...

 

[damon_Z]

Pics of the 250 are a must, stick around and call this place home for a while

It's going to take a few months to even get the license, because I still have to pass a knowledge test, wait at least a couple of months to get into a motorcycle safety program, and pass a road test (if necessary), but I'll definitely update this thread with pics once I have the motorcycle.

 

[BigBSBusa]

on the decision. Know it was a tough one.

 

[Mr Bogus]

DON'T THINK YOU CAN'T POST HERE, RESPOND HERE, OR ASK QUESTIONS HERE just because this is "HAYABUSA.0RG" does not mean only busa owners find home here. Shoot we even let Ducati guys hang out here

That's the great thing about this site, it doesn't matter what you ride, you wont get bashed if it's somethin other than a Busa.

EOB here (equal opportunity basher)

now that you are here, no point going anywhere else anyway hope to ride with you some day (any bike will do)

 

[Shanling]

DON'T THINK YOU CAN'T POST HERE, RESPOND HERE, OR ASK QUESTIONS HERE just because this is "HAYABUSA.0RG" does not mean only busa owners find home here. Shoot we even let Ducati guys hang out here

That's the great thing about this site, it doesn't matter what you ride, you wont get bashed if it's somethin other than a Busa.

EOB here   (equal opportunity basher)  

now that you are here, no point going anywhere else anyway   hope to ride with you some day (any bike will do)

If you do ride with him, let him pick the roads. One little mistake and he won't let you forget it. Trust me on this as I know first hand...

 

[Billy Busa]

Welcome to the .oRg!  great people here....

does not matter what the information is you posted IMO

Busa makes a fine "beginner" bike...

wheres my picture at?....

Mightay fine beginner bike,, mightayyyyy finne.

This is from the last wreck i witnessed. Homey of mine been on cruisers for a good while. Decides to move up to a 08 busa. This is 700 miles later.
I was behind the 2 other riders and i took off in the twisties and he decided to follow me. I went off and recovered (skid mark at the top). He just went off (mark at the bottom).



He rode off with only a knoted up arm cause he had a jacket on. The moral is that you have to be crazy to buy the biggest baddest most diffucilt to ride bike and have absolutely no experience with the sheer speed danger and advanced control methods involved in riding one.

I dont recmmend a hayabusa. A 600 is lighter on gas gets to screaming when piped right. No need to be doing 130 mph in 3rd gear to get the revs up like a busa has to do.


There is verry few situations that you can even use a hayabusas power.

Damn, What did you do to your brand new 2008 busa,lol. They must have saw you coming.

 

[Billy Busa]

As a first time owner of the hayabasa, the busa will only go as fast as you want it to.
I guess everyones different and some are just more coordinated and mature than others.

Should you buy a hayabusa as a first bike?
Whats your definition "as a first bike" ? If you never even sat on a motorcycle before than you probably shouldent get the busa.

I went from owning a 2007 Kawasaki ZZR-600 for five months to owning a 2008 hayabusa. I think i made a great choice.

 

[Mr Bogus]

DON'T THINK YOU CAN'T POST HERE, RESPOND HERE, OR ASK QUESTIONS HERE just because this is "HAYABUSA.0RG" does not mean only busa owners find home here. Shoot we even let Ducati guys hang out here

That's the great thing about this site, it doesn't matter what you ride, you wont get bashed if it's somethin other than a Busa.

EOB here (equal opportunity basher)

now that you are here, no point going anywhere else anyway hope to ride with you some day (any bike will do)

If you do ride with him, let him pick the roads. One little mistake and he won't let you forget it. Trust me on this as I know first hand...

hmmmm Did I bring up the fanciful u-turn across the busy highway after 2 false alarms so we could ride 1 block?

 

[Mr Bogus]

oops did that really post?

 

[BIKE DUDE]

This bike weighs 4 times as much as you and with your height that doesn't leave much room for error. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of raw power this has and how quick it can get out of control in a panic type situation.

 

[mercwork]

My opinion, is no.  This comes from over 13 years of sport bike riding and five years as a LEO traffic crash reconstructionist.  The busa is a very unforgiving motorcycle, too much twist of the wrist and you get in trouble quick.  Good luck and be safe no matter what you choose.

 

[standiggity]

If it's about gas mileage.. get the new Ninja 250R.. it looks like a sportbike and will get you a lot better gas mileage than the Busa.... plus you can man handle it as it weighs nothing compared to most bikes.

 

[Shanling]

oops did that really post?

Why couldn't the glitch have deleted that one too?

"Officer, I did not make an illegal U-Turn! Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?"

 

[damon_Z]

From another message board, I just found out that the new Hayabusa actually has a Drive Mode Selector. I did research on this and found the following quote from Motorcyle-usa.com.

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This is all in the default A-Mode, as the '08 Hayabusa incorporates the S-DMS (Suzuki Drive Mode Selector) found on its smaller GSX-R siblings. Featuring three engine maps, the differences are evident on our dyno sheet: A-Mode is brutish power which spikes around 9K. B-Mode delivers almost 13-less ponies, but makes power in a very linear manner. C-Mode mirrors the A-Mode curve, but about 50 horsepower lower.

All three positions are noticeable, with the C-Mode feeling, dare we say it, sluggish - in particular during low-end acceleration. There's nothing wrong with the system, which is operated by a thumb switch on the right handlebar, but we are still scratching our heads over why anyone would want it. The raw, uninhibited power of A-Mode is addictive, even if you're just twisting the throttle from stop sign to stop sign on city streets. Asking a rider to flip it down to C is akin to asking a drug addict to control their own dosage. Whenever shuffling through the modes on the road, we found ourselves dabbing up to A and leaving it there.[/quote]

I think the above info is very interesting. The C mode would probably really help the true beginners out there in making the Hayabusa a little less dangerous.

 

[rubber2burn]

From another message board, I just found out that the new Hayabusa actually has a Drive Mode Selector.  I did research on this and found the following quote from Motorcyle-usa.com.

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This is all in the default A-Mode, as the '08 Hayabusa incorporates the S-DMS (Suzuki Drive Mode Selector) found on its smaller GSX-R siblings. Featuring three engine maps, the differences are evident on our dyno sheet: A-Mode is brutish power which spikes around 9K. B-Mode delivers almost 13-less ponies, but makes power in a very linear manner. C-Mode mirrors the A-Mode curve, but about 50 horsepower lower.

All three positions are noticeable, with the C-Mode feeling, dare we say it, sluggish - in particular during low-end acceleration. There's nothing wrong with the system, which is operated by a thumb switch on the right handlebar, but we are still scratching our heads over why anyone would want it. The raw, uninhibited power of A-Mode is addictive, even if you're just twisting the throttle from stop sign to stop sign on city streets. Asking a rider to flip it down to C is akin to asking a drug addict to control their own dosage. Whenever shuffling through the modes on the road, we found ourselves dabbing up to A and leaving it there.[/quote]  

I think the above info is very interesting. The C mode would probably really help the true beginners out there in making the Hayabusa a little less dangerous.[/quote]
Hey if you want a Busa for a first bike go ahead man and get one as far as the mode switch that might help ya a little but like a few other have said hell we all need parts

 

[damon_Z]

From another message board, I just found out that the new Hayabusa actually has a Drive Mode Selector.  I did research on this and found the following quote from Motorcyle-usa.com.

<div class="iF-Passage"><div class="QUOTEHEAD">Quote:

<div class="QUOTE clearfix"><span class="quoteBegin"> </span>

This is all in the default A-Mode, as the '08 Hayabusa incorporates the S-DMS (Suzuki Drive Mode Selector) found on its smaller GSX-R siblings. Featuring three engine maps, the differences are evident on our dyno sheet: A-Mode is brutish power which spikes around 9K. B-Mode delivers almost 13-less ponies, but makes power in a very linear manner. C-Mode mirrors the A-Mode curve, but about 50 horsepower lower.

All three positions are noticeable, with the C-Mode feeling, dare we say it, sluggish - in particular during low-end acceleration. There's nothing wrong with the system, which is operated by a thumb switch on the right handlebar, but we are still scratching our heads over why anyone would want it. The raw, uninhibited power of A-Mode is addictive, even if you're just twisting the throttle from stop sign to stop sign on city streets. Asking a rider to flip it down to C is akin to asking a drug addict to control their own dosage. Whenever shuffling through the modes on the road, we found ourselves dabbing up to A and leaving it there.

 

I think the above info is very interesting. The C mode would probably really help the true beginners out there in making the Hayabusa a little less dangerous.[/quote]
Hey if you want a Busa for a first bike go ahead man and get one as far as the mode switch that might help ya a little but like a few other have said hell we all need parts [/quote]
It's just something to think about for people who want to start off with a 600-800cc motorcyle.  If your dream bike is a brand new Hayabusa, but you want to start off with a less powerful bike, then why not just go straight to a Hayabusa and keep it in C mode?

 

[Shanling]

Here we go....

 

[Delgado]

I wouldn't mind the housing for the headlights / turn signals.. Still looking for an extra set if anyones got any laying around (08)

btw, I thought they settled this already

 

[rubber2burn]

From another message board, I just found out that the new Hayabusa actually has a Drive Mode Selector.  I did research on this and found the following quote from Motorcyle-usa.com.

<div class="iF-Passage"><div class="QUOTEHEAD">Quote:

<div class="QUOTE clearfix"><span class="quoteBegin"> </span>

This is all in the default A-Mode, as the '08 Hayabusa incorporates the S-DMS (Suzuki Drive Mode Selector) found on its smaller GSX-R siblings. Featuring three engine maps, the differences are evident on our dyno sheet: A-Mode is brutish power which spikes around 9K. B-Mode delivers almost 13-less ponies, but makes power in a very linear manner. C-Mode mirrors the A-Mode curve, but about 50 horsepower lower.

All three positions are noticeable, with the C-Mode feeling, dare we say it, sluggish - in particular during low-end acceleration. There's nothing wrong with the system, which is operated by a thumb switch on the right handlebar, but we are still scratching our heads over why anyone would want it. The raw, uninhibited power of A-Mode is addictive, even if you're just twisting the throttle from stop sign to stop sign on city streets. Asking a rider to flip it down to C is akin to asking a drug addict to control their own dosage. Whenever shuffling through the modes on the road, we found ourselves dabbing up to A and leaving it there.

 

I think the above info is very interesting. The C mode would probably really help the true beginners out there in making the Hayabusa a little less dangerous.

Hey if you want a Busa for a first bike go ahead man and get one as far as the mode switch that might help ya a little but like a few other have said hell we all need parts [/quote]
It's just something to think about for people who want to start off with a 600-800cc motorcyle.  If your dream bike is a brand new Hayabusa, but you want to start off with a less powerful bike, then why not just go straight to a Hayabusa and keep it in C mode?[/quote]
I do not care if you have it in the "C" Mode you are still sitting on 1340cc of motor and if you are a newbie and have never put a leg over a bike before in your life I would not recommend it because #1 if you drop it trust me you are going to be sick at the cost it is going to be to fix it, #2 I have always said and told newbie riders you need to crawl before you walk meaning you need to learn the Basics on a bike before jumping on one of the most powerful bikes on the market and last time I checked when you turn the key on the new 08's it defaults to "A" mode and what happens when you forget about that and go twisting the throttle and do not notice that. Like I said do what you want it is your money and your life I just think if you are a new rider I would start on something that is way more docile than the Busa just my 2 cents

 

[GMbusa]

The main reason I say no to this? Because it affects ME. For every new rider that gets a Busa for their first bike and is fine, there's 20 others that have destroyed their's. And insurance is covering most of them. That's what adds to the statistic lists.

Go get a smaller CC bike and pay your dues.