The election is over

Red05 said:
Wuzza hit it in the head. The return to decency I referred to is getting Trump out of the White House. I'll give him that the economy was fine before the virus hit but he has been a constant A$$. His refusal to reach across the political aisle, in fact talking about Democrats as if they're the enemy, the roughian treatment of other countries, his refusal to denounce white extremists, his childlike refusal to admit when he's wrong...the handling of the pandemic (lying about the severity to keep us from panicking? WTF!!), his horrible behavior towards John McCain...I could go on forever. I'm not a fan of Pelosi either, and it looks like there's a chance that we're stuck with Mitch McConnell for a while longer, but getting Trump out is a great move in the right direction IMO.
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I agree with most of what you said, but consider Obama, who was a true gentleman, politically correct and look at how badly he was treated.

Politics are insincere, false, lies and more lies. Maybe we needed an arrogant sob to really shake things up for a bit and get stuff done.

Politicians are like a bunch of bananas. Yellow, crooked and they hang together.

Anyway, of the 70 million votes Trump got, I believe many were for the party and what the Administration got done, rather than for the person.

The fatal mistake he made was not to support mail in voting. I believe a lot of folks who may have voted Trump, stayed home due to Covid and the inconvenience of standing in a line.

If you don’t watch TV, other than gas prices dipping below $2.00 and less unemployment, how did Trump affect your life personally?

We can blame him for being irresponsible with Covid, but what about the governor of each state who has the authority to manage Covid?

Look at NY Cuomo, who publicly stated he wished the Covid vaccine is delayed until the new Administration takes over. WTF, you think he cares about you? You wonder why he has some of the highest Covid numbers in the nation?
 
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jellyrug said:
IAnyway, of the 70 million votes Trump got, I believe many were for the party and what the Administration got done, rather than for the person.

The fatal mistake he made was not to support mail in voting. I believe a lot of folks who may have voted Trump, stayed home due to Covid and the inconvenience of standing in a line.

If you don’t watch TV, other than gas prices dipping below $2.00 and less unemployment, how did Trump affect your life personally?
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Excellent points. I still think a change, per my pendulum theory, is needed, but your views are respectful and clear headed :beerchug:
 
There are 255 million people of voting age in the US and there are (so far) 160 million total votes for both candidates....the highest turn out in a century...

I'd say that in itself is significant...

Mr Biden received most votes for any president in the history of the US...people who have never voted before voted...

What is interesting for me is how much our Canadian media is wrapped up in reporting the US election, it fills our news broadcasts...

I know Canada's relationship with the Trump administration was at an all time low...hopefully it improves with the new guy.
 
jermzfree said:
They must be in on it too .

This goes deep .



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hayabuser said:
And I hope it improves further when we get a new guy.
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Yes, the focus is on the US administration and how nasty it was under Trump but we in Canada have our own nasty leader. One who never really worked a day in his life and had a silver spoon inserted since birth.

He will bankrupt our country sure as "God made little green apples"
 
Bumblebee said:
What is interesting for me is how much our Canadian media is wrapped up in reporting the US election, it fills our news broadcasts...

I know Canada's relationship with the Trump administration was at an all time low...hopefully it improves with the new guy.
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No coincidence in those two facts. Most of the world celebrates while Trump and some of his followers wallow in denial. I'm not at all surprised that Trump is keeping his personal interests and addiction to the limelight above a smooth transition for the good of a country he keeps saying he loves.
 
“There are 255 million people of voting age in the US and there are (so far) 160 million total votes for both candidates....the highest turn out in a century...”

It‘s shameful that so many here aren’t interested enough to vote. Sheep! Look at the disparity! Imagine all those people in countries who (can’t) vote seeing that so many here don’t exercise their rights in how this country is run.
 
WuzzaCBXRider said:
“There are 255 million people of voting age in the US and there are (so far) 160 million total votes for both candidates....the highest turn out in a century...”

It‘s shameful that so many here aren’t interested enough to vote. Sheep! Look at the disparity! Imagine all those people in countries who (can’t) vote seeing that so many here don’t exercise their rights in how this country is run.
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Yet it will be the ones who didn't vote making the most noise at how things are being run...
 
RedBull said:
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Nope, your electoral process is telling you that...

An electoral process which is hundreds of years in the making......but all of a sudden with this election it is broken and corrupt....quite a coincidence.
 
WuzzaCBXRider said:
Maybe you’re just unfamiliar with our ballots. Many (most?) voters pay far more attention to the presidential candidates than they do other offices. Some of us still believe in the importance of the three ‘divisions’, the senate, the house and the office of the prez, to ensure that checks and balances against having too much power are securely in place. Sadly, many voters don’t place the same weight on senators and reps as they do the highest office. The same ballot that lists the presidential candidates however also lists the senators and house rep candidates. If there was widespread tampering or whatever the pubs are calling it, why then didn’t the dems also garner more dem votes for those other candidates? As for sticks and stones, if someone is not uninformed or misinformed and yet still believes that the chump is the right guy for the job, then they are by definition, stupid. Just ask somewhere over 75,000,000 Americans.
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Hayabuser understands very well.......and you cannot seem to stop yourself from personally attacking anyone who does not share your beliefs/opinions.
 
rd99 said:
Hayabuser understands very well.......and you cannot seem to stop yourself from personally attacking anyone who does not share your beliefs/opinions.
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Does Hayabuser understand that 5 million more people voted for Biden than Trump? I think he does, but can't accept it. Maybe therapy will help. As Bumblebee said, the age old election process is suddenly broken because crybabies can't wrap their minds around losing. Wuzza did not attack him personally, he attacked the insane notion that Trump should retain the presidency despite losing the election. It's not about beliefs/opinions. It's about election results.
 
Red05 said:
Does Hayabuser understand that 5 million more people voted for Biden than Trump? I think he does, but can't accept it. Maybe therapy will help. As Bumblebee said, the age old election process is suddenly broken because crybabies can't wrap their minds around losing. Wuzza did not attack him personally, he attacked the insane notion that Trump should retain the presidency despite losing the election. It's not about beliefs/opinions. It's about election results.
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Don't put words in my mouth, I never said that Trump should retain the Presidency if he loses... I have only stated that he has yet to officially lose, and that even if the voting shenanigans turns up one fraudulent vote, it puts the entire election into question. Yes, one fake vote casts a shadow over every vote and so far there are examples of many fake votes.

I'm concerned as America is our best friend and it's hard to sit idly by and watch a friend and ally bleed out internally.

You say that "It's not about beliefs/opinions. It's about election results." and you're 100% correct, the problem is that there are no official results yet. Biden is not President-Elect despite what the mainstream media and his party state, nor should anyone be labeled this until the election is actually over.

Hilary Clinton said "Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances because I think this is going to drag out." (Hillary Clinton to Biden: Don't concede if the election is close) and she's right. But this also goes for President Trump because it's not over until it's over... and it's just not over yet.
 
hayabuser said:
Don't put words in my mouth, I never said that Trump should retain the Presidency if he loses... I have only stated that he has yet to officially lose, and that even if the voting shenanigans turns up one fraudulent vote, it puts the entire election into question.
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He lost. In all states that are close, vote counting is 99% in. Trump's refusal to concede only shows his lack of character and his frivolous legal endeavors trying to stall the transition are an embarrassment. Biden is starting preparations for the transition without the aid of the incumbent which is a slap to the face of every American no matter who they backed.
I understand that you wanted him to win. A lot of people did. Doesn't change things.
 
hayabuser said:
Don't put words in my mouth, I never said that Trump should retain the Presidency if he loses... I have only stated that he has yet to officially lose, and that even if the voting shenanigans turns up one fraudulent vote, it puts the entire election into question. Yes, one fake vote casts a shadow over every vote and so far there are examples of many fake votes.

I'm concerned as America is our best friend and it's hard to sit idly by and watch a friend and ally bleed out internally.

You say that "It's not about beliefs/opinions. It's about election results." and you're 100% correct, the problem is that there are no official results yet. Biden is not President-Elect despite what the mainstream media and his party state, nor should anyone be labeled this until the election is actually over.

Hilary Clinton said "Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances because I think this is going to drag out." (Hillary Clinton to Biden: Don't concede if the election is close) and she's right. But this also goes for President Trump because it's not over until it's over... and it's just not over yet.
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I really don't think mainstream media nor the Biden administration has the authority or power to just take over the win on their own....there's obviously a higher authority at work to allow the Biden administration to commence his transition...

The fact is Biden has won the election, the other fact is he is the President-Elect.

To say the vote counting process is fraudulent is a huge kick to the groin of the American democracy. In this stead, every time a President is to be voted out, they can cry foul and then throw the whole process under the bus....

Take a look at 1920's Germany and see the resemblance-not a good picture.
 
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