Weather Alarmists

[justintime2]

It was 20 years to global cooling ending the earth and our ability to survive on it when I was young. That didn't happen so they went the complete opposite direction and it was to be global warming that would end things in 20 years. That didn't happen so they switched to climate change (or course the climate changes) that will now end it so they can claim somethings going wrong no matter what's going on outside.

Notice how climate doesn't matter since Covid hit? The masks littering our streets everywhere don't matter? they'll circle back around to it as this version of fear porn fades. There's big money in controlling people and their level of fear. The idea that a styrofoam cup floating down a stream will end the planet is absurd, Mother Nature could shrug us off her shoulders and return us to medievil times in a moment.

Don't buy mountains of crap and retail landfill, recycle where you can (even though most of it goes to China to burn), don't dump your oil down the storm drain, and just generally speaking don't be an sugar and poop where you eat as we won't destroy this planet but we sure could make it uncomfortable for us to live here.

Ignore the climate alarmists who claim something, something, something in 12 years or else, they've got a track record of being so wrong if they were a stock broker you wouldn't give them a dime. These are the same idiots who can't accurately predict the weather in a few days even with radar showing what's coming and don't do anything they ask you to do themselves...

 

[fallenarch]

So lets say a religious figure says the sun rises because Apollo pulls it across the sky. A scientist says the sun rotates around the earth and that's why it "rises". Both are wrong but one is at least approaching truth and understanding.

 

[fallenarch]

It was 20 years to global cooling ending the earth and our ability to survive on it when I was young. That didn't happen so they went the complete opposite direction and it was to be global warming that would end things in 20 years. That didn't happen so they switched to climate change (or course the climate changes) that will now end it so they can claim somethings going wrong no matter what's going on outside.

Notice how climate doesn't matter since Covid hit? The masks littering our streets everywhere don't matter? they'll circle back around to it as this version of fear porn fades. There's big money in controlling people and their level of fear. The idea that a styrofoam cup floating down a stream will end the planet is absurd, Mother Nature could shrug us off her shoulders and return us to medievil times in a moment.

Don't buy mountains of crap and retail landfill, recycle where you can (even though most of it goes to China to burn), don't dump your oil down the storm drain, and just generally speaking don't be an sugar and poop where you eat as we won't destroy this planet but we sure could make it uncomfortable for us to live here.

Ignore the climate alarmists who claim something, something, something in 12 years or else, they've got a track record of being so wrong if they were a stock broker you wouldn't give them a dime. These are the same idiots who can't accurately predict the weather in a few days even with radar showing what's coming and don't do anything they ask you to do themselves...

If your information comes from mainstream media then climate change seems like the in thing to be afraid of. Instead of those 1-2 hours of FOX, MSNBC, etc. read a few schoolarly articles and you will realize that the picture on climate change is pretty clear. I have to look at a lot of this stuff because of my job. Climate and flooding directly impact architectural design challenges. It's real and it is scary. Will it end humanity, probably not. Will it drammatically change our lives, absolutely.

 

[justintime2]

Sorry but I'll take my advice from those who actually have a track record of being right, only an intellectual or academic would even try to explain away how wrong they have been and are. You should spend some time contemplating correlation vs causation and less time analyzing what news channels others watch, which you are also wrong on...

 

[Mythos]

I do believe in extraterrestrial beings, I've seen aerial craft I can't explain-people don't talk about this stuff as they are labelled a "kook" but I know what I saw. One would have to be pretty obtuse to look up at all those stars each night of which most are distant suns to think we are alone and unique.

I was looking at the stars with my daughter 3 years ago and I saw something that looked like a shooting star make an abrupt 90 degree turn and disappear out of sight. It was very small. It could have been a drone but it was just one solid light, no flashing and from the speed, a drone would have had to have been traveling a lot faster than any drone would travel. I would have heard the engines of a drone if it were close enough to pass across the sky that quickly. In the very same location, I was laying on the ground between a garage and a line of trees about 20 feet apart. I was staring up at the sky and a very large, bright object zipped past my field of view making no noise at all. It was evening but the sun had not even completely gone down yet. From the relative size and the speed, the object appeared to have been at a very low altitude. If it was too far away for me to hear a noise, it would have to have been huge and traveling at an even greater speed. I was unable to see it except for in that 20 feet of sky that was visible but I saw something and if it was an airplane reflecting the setting sun, it would have been at 500 feet or less and made no noise at all.

Creatures/insects/germ/microbes etc with extremely little intelligence actually have a better chance of surviving due to their instincts of pure survival with no emotions and little to no congnitive thought. A tardy bear will out live any human/primate for millions if not billions of years till the sun super novas.

Of course we as a species are not happy with just polluting our own planet but the surrounding space as well...the amount of space trash is staggering....

...now including tardy bears. Now we possibly have a colony of tardigrades evolving on the moon. Hopefully they won't find a way to survive or we may have something there waiting for us one day.

Why Tardigrades Are So Badass: 7 Secrets of the Only Animal That Can Survive in Space

All hail the toughest organism on (and beyond) Earth: the weird and wonderful water bear.

www.popularmechanics.com

 

[Bumblebee]

I was looking at the stars with my daughter 3 years ago and I saw something that looked like a shooting star make an abrupt 90 degree turn and disappear out of sight. It was very small. It could have been a drone but it was just one solid light, no flashing and from the speed, a drone would have had to have been traveling a lot faster than any drone would travel. I would have heard the engines of a drone if it were close enough to pass across the sky that quickly. In the very same location, I was laying on the ground between a garage and a line of trees about 20 feet apart. I was staring up at the sky and a very large, bright object zipped past my field of view making no noise at all. It was evening but the sun had not even completely gone down yet. From the relative size and the speed, the object appeared to have been at a very low altitude. If it was too far away for me to hear a noise, it would have to have been huge and traveling at an even greater speed. I was unable to see it except for in that 20 feet of sky that was visible but I saw something and if it was an airplane reflecting the setting sun, it would have been at 500 feet or less and made no noise at all.



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...now including tardy bears. Now we possibly have a colony of tardigrades evolving on the moon. Hopefully they won't find a way to survive or we may have something there waiting for us one day.

Why Tardigrades Are So Badass: 7 Secrets of the Only Animal That Can Survive in Space

All hail the toughest organism on (and beyond) Earth: the weird and wonderful water bear.

www.popularmechanics.com

When I was a kid on our farm, a perfectly round object was directly above our barn, it made no noise, turbulence or anything...it was just there...my sister and I stood there watching it and then "poof" it went straight up and then gone....our family saw that same object 3 or 4 times over our farm.



Don't know about the second thing you posted about "tardigrades"...that must have been after a few I reckon....

 

[fallenarch]

Sorry but I'll take my advice from those who actually have a track record of being right, only an intellectual or academic would even try to explain away how wrong they have been and are. You should spend some time contemplating correlation vs causation and less time analyzing what news channels others watch, which you are also wrong on...

You're sounding defensive.

 

[Dougyp333]

Does human kind have an effect on climate? Of course we do, the current and as yet unproven theory is that we have a significant effect.

Earth's climate is a very complex system and even the best models only include a small number of the total variables (such as only 2 of the 11 major sun cycles, not including water vapor/clouds in the model). Tweek one variable a bit and it changes the outcome. So the best case is that they are guessing, the worst case is that they are saying what gets them more funding.

Follow the money, Billions are being made off of green energy and climate change research. Some current research shows that the last few hundred years have been some of the most tranquil Earth has ever seen so as things get more chaotic it would be a return to normal.

The graph below shows how the temperature data has been tampered with. The blue line is the raw data, the red line is the falsified data that is used in most studies.

 

[jellyrug]

Well said but intellect does not translate into "survival of the fittest" if anything it's hindering. Creatures/insects/germ/microbes etc with extremely little intelligence actually have a better chance of surviving due to their instincts of pure survival with no emotions and little to no congnitive thought. A tardy bear will out live any human/primate for millions if not billions of years till the sun super novas. But you still haven't answered my question about scientists being wrong and you saying science is always right.

Scientists may not always be right, but science in established physics, mathematics, applied mathematics, quantum physics and chemistry is always right.

No matter how hard you look at it 2+2 will always be 4. Gravitational force at sea level will always be 9.806 m/s2 on planet earth and electrons will always move when passed from one atom to another due to a potential difference in a precisely predictable measurement. Carbon dating will always be very accurate and measuring the CO2 in a compound which also contains H2O remains precise.

Landing a Rover on Mars is absolutely impossible without an extensive knowledge of all the disciplines mentioned above. Having a disrespect for science is not very smart.

 

[jellyrug]

Not really "flip flopping"

I still believe scientists are driven by funding and the more they say the "sky is falling", the more funding they receive...I say it's time to knuckle down and stop the rhetoric and start the hard work. If the scientific world is chiming the alarm bell, it is falling on deaf ears as nobody is listening or actioning this alarm. Every single person on this travelling circus has a stake in this game but how many people care?

As for sticking our heads in the sand, I believe we need to sort ourselves out before going to other terrestrial bodies. There are nations going to space when their own country is in a deplorable state (India, China) and that financial expenditure would be better served sorting out their country before worrying about going to space.

I do believe in extraterrestrial beings, I've seen aerial craft I can't explain-people don't talk about this stuff as they are labelled a "kook" but I know what I saw. One would have to be pretty obtuse to look up at all those stars each night of which most are distant suns to think we are alone and unique.

If you read my posts, you will know I also believe in extraterrestrial life. What I do not believe in, is their presence on earth, or our immediate universe. The light years of distance towards life in any form we know, would have to travel billions of earth years to get here, from rare possible star systems we can observe with advanced equipment in space. It would mean total immortality.

But I have a question for you. If you believe in what you saw and you believe in aliens visiting earth, why would that not justify the exploration of outer space, so we can try and find something to prove you right or wrong?

 

[fallenarch]

If you read my posts, you will know I also believe in extraterrestrial life. What I do not believe in, is their presence on earth, or our immediate universe. The light years of distance towards life in any form we know, would have to travel billions of earth years to get here, from rare possible star systems we can observe with advanced equipment in space. It would mean total immortality.

But I have a question for you. If you believe in what you saw and you believe in aliens visiting earth, why would that not justify the exploration of outer space, so we can try and find something to prove you right or wrong?

So there are plausible ways a race could live long enough to get here. They could be robots, in which case immortal. no need for food, air, water, etc. They could be immortal. Theoretically, people could be nearly immortal if certain aging genes were suppressed. Things like space warps are possible if not probable also. They could also be from Earth. We know less about the deep oceans than we do about Mars. More likely, it's technology from some dark project that got caught and spotted.

Some crazy ideas but I don't think science has discounted any of those. Why send a robot on a million-year journey? Well finding life in a million years is better than never right?

 

[Bumblebee]

If you read my posts, you will know I also believe in extraterrestrial life. What I do not believe in, is their presence on earth, or our immediate universe. The light years of distance towards life in any form we know, would have to travel billions of earth years to get here, from rare possible star systems we can observe with advanced equipment in space. It would mean total immortality.

But I have a question for you. If you believe in what you saw and you believe in aliens visiting earth, why would that not justify the exploration of outer space, so we can try and find something to prove you right or wrong?

You are looking at extraterrestrial travel with the limited understanding of the universe mankind possesses...

As a species we are very young, we've only had limited space travel for what 55 or 60 yrs? Other species of life could have had space travel for millions of years for all we know...

I think space exploration is something mankind should pursue but we should be looking after where we live before focusing on leaving it. The huge funding and effort required to explore space could be better served in making our own world a better place.

 

[jellyrug]

Jy

So there are plausible ways a race could live long enough to get here. They could be robots, in which case immortal. no need for food, air, water, etc. They could be immortal. Theoretically, people could be nearly immortal if certain aging genes were suppressed. Things like space warps are possible if not probable also. They could also be from Earth. We know less about the deep oceans than we do about Mars. More likely, it's technology from some dark project that got caught and spotted.

Some crazy ideas but I don't think science has discounted any of those. Why send a robot on a million-year journey? Well finding life in a million years is better than never right?

You are looking at extraterrestrial travel with the limited understanding of the universe mankind possesses...

As a species we are very young, we've only had limited space travel for what 55 or 60 yrs? Other species of life could have had space travel for millions of years for all we know...

I think space exploration is something mankind should pursue but we should be looking after where we live before focusing on leaving it. The huge funding and effort required to explore space could be better served in making our own world a better place.

There will always be a reason why looking after where we live will be important and that is only going to increase in intensity.

Inuit and Métis would be the majority of people populating Canada today, should mankind have no quest for exploration. You would probably be living somewhere in Europe.

 

[jellyrug]

So there are plausible ways a race could live long enough to get here. They could be robots, in which case immortal. no need for food, air, water, etc. They could be immortal. Theoretically, people could be nearly immortal if certain aging genes were suppressed. Things like space warps are possible if not probable also. They could also be from Earth. We know less about the deep oceans than we do about Mars. More likely, it's technology from some dark project that got caught and spotted.

Some crazy ideas but I don't think science has discounted any of those. Why send a robot on a million-year journey? Well finding life in a million years is better than never right?

Cannot argue with that logic.

The only real hard plausible evidence we have of that though, is the wow signal, August 15th 1977.

 

[Bumblebee]

Jy


There will always be a reason why looking after where we live will be important and that is only going to increase in intensity.

Inuit and Métis would be the majority of people populating Canada today, should mankind have no quest for exploration. You would probably be living somewhere in Europe.

Being Metis, maybe not...

 

[jellyrug]

Being Metis, maybe not...

Good for you, I had no idea.

 

[Mythos]

Just about everyone must have seen the US military videos of the flying Tic-Tacs and the flying pyramid. I hope that's extraterrestrials or a top secret operation by our own country. If it's some other country, we could have some big problems.

 

[Bumblebee]

Good for you, I had no idea.

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Exploration certainly did it's fair share of damage to indigenous peoples all over the globe....it was inevitable that it was going to occur though...

 

[Zerks]

Didn't Obama just buy a house on the coast?

Yes... something like 16 million dollars worth of property... and if I recall correctly his house sits 8 ft above sea level at high tide. Guess he isn't too concerned about rising sea levels.

 

[ZeePopo]

Just about everyone must have seen the US military videos of the flying Tic-Tacs and the flying pyramid. I hope that's extraterrestrials or a top secret operation by our own country. If it's some other country, we could have some big problems.

Flying Tic Tac hahaha