What a Wet Shot looks like.
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Gixx1300R
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I am still waiting to see some of his pic also..
Some have asked before and he has never produced any. Let me show you an example on my old Fogger Setup. Oh look,pics. Damn easy to post pics. It's not Rocket Science.
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Oh, this brings back painful memories. I had Pirrahna nozzles in my ZX12 with hard plumbed stainless lines back in 04. I had to pay my 6 year old daughter to change the jets because I couldn't get my hands inside the F-N machine.
Nice Work Gixx1300R, and I hope she was more reliable for you than mine.
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And thanks for getting the post back on track. I personally preffer wet systems due to fuel management simplicity, but I'm running a dry system this year, so all info is good.
Nice Work Gixx1300R, and I hope she was more reliable for you than mine.
lease:And thanks for getting the post back on track. I personally preffer wet systems due to fuel management simplicity, but I'm running a dry system this year, so all info is good.
Gixx1300R
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Oh, this brings back painful memories. I had Pirrahna nozzles in my ZX12 with hard plumbed stainless lines back in 04. I had to pay my 6 year old daughter to change the jets because I couldn't get my hands inside the F-N machine.
Nice Work Gixx1300R, and I hope she was more reliable for you than mine.
And thanks for getting the post back on track. I personally preffer wet systems due to fuel management simplicity, but I'm running a dry system this year, so all info is good.
Thanks, So how much money did she make changing your jets lol?
Cookie
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Not possible due to the design of the airbox. The sidewalls of the airbox curve inwards over the number 1 and number 4 velocity stacks
What kind of air box is this, Nick? And was there any major differences in mounting this onto the Busa? What was the purpose of going with this box over the stock configuration?
Gixx1300R
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That is a ZX10 airbox on a ZX10. It is tiny. The mounting screws are on the sides. The Busa is mounted from the top. Dont get confused in thinking it's a ZX10 airbox on a Busa. It is not.
ToXSicK RoCKeT
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Listen. What started all this fueding was when Gixx and you made the comment that spraybars is the only way to do dry efficiently and I disagree and proved its not. You keep saying I'm quoting from books and your right. I give verifiable information that anybody can look up and aquire. All you keep saying is "it works" and you have no ideal how. When spraybars first were introduced on the market I bought them, tried them and found that they are not better than fogging a airbox. I showed you that my dry shot makes more hp than your spaybar with a smaller jet. Its all about setup and understanding. Its funny gixx doesn't post this stuff on psychobike cause he knows more than me will be picking him apart. He stays here where everyday joes who like dyno charts can praise him for doing a good job and don't do their homework. You would be surprised as to how many people on here actually agrees with me but just doesn't want to get tied into the bs. I'm going to just drop it cause I know your smart enough to see what I'm saying but just don't want to look like I proved you wrong or showed you something you really didn't think about thoroughly. I asked Gixx what was the difference between his wet kit and the one he put a picture up and he didn't answer. He wants to give half truths and promote spraybar propaganda cause the makes a living on this stuff built out of his backyard. So I'll just keep laughing and you keep cheerleading. But I will put this out, ANY stock motor busa with his spraybar got action against my 08 stock motor with my fogger kit pound for pound. Now lets see if he got the balls to take a lane and fing out the hard way.
Peace.
YOU PROVED ME WRONG? ???
Let me ask YOU some questions kingofmeltedparts.......1. What PROOF have you ever shown me that proves your way makes more power(besides a cut off picture of a no info dyno chart.....YOU KNOW the same thing your SLAMMING gixx for)?
2. Why have you not shown ANY pics of YOUR setup, SCARED US AVERAGE "JOE'S" will pick it part and show you up?
Thats it! 2 simple questions that i BET you cant answer and will spin your way right out of them.
......BTW, its not to smart to be calling a community that your apart of "average joes"(WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN ??? ) And i will CHEERLEAD 
my azz off if it keeps me in front of you!
ToXSicK RoCKeT
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I think I asked the wrong person for advice. koc, you should have let it all go along time ago. the more you talked the less you appear to know.
Just some good advice for ya
BINGO!!!
Another "AVERAGE JOE" see's the light 
If i where only allowed to post one more thing in hear(might come to that ) it would be this......ANYONE that is unsure about nitrous on his or her hayabusa PM GIXX1300R!!!!!!!!!! This is TRUELY A VERY NICE GUY that knows his $hit and is willing to help ANYONE(hope you dont mind me saying soo Gixx)! Go ahead kodc, say im
for him.......i really could give a 
about what you think, only to try and steer as many folks as i can in the right direction!
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Cookie
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Thanks for clearing that up.
Gixx1300R
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correct, I make a spraybar for every model day sport bike. Even V twins. here is a 99-07 Busa airbox
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kingofdacoast
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I told myself I wasn't going to respond anymore but since you spoke up Nick maybe you can help me understand what I may be missing. Just answer one question for me thoroughly that I can verify and I'll close this little debate. So far everyone who makes a spraybar dry nitrous setup cannot answer this. Maybe you know more than them in this subject and might just help me learn something.
EVERYONE who makes any kind of spraybar or direct ports dry nitrous down every cylinder uses the same reason of why. Fogging the airbox cannot insure that every cylinder gets the same amount of nitrous OR (per toxic and others) that fogging the airbox is too dependant on the engine to be able to take in the same amount or nitrous. In other words, the only way a engine can take in the exact same amount per cylinder is to put it directly down in the cylinder. My question is, what can make a cylinder pull more nitrous than another AND just because one does is there a serious problem with that? Give me a legitamate answer and educate me. Now before anyone starts saying we have leakage and compression is down our engine is running perfectly and well tuned. Can you give me a answer?
EVERYONE who makes any kind of spraybar or direct ports dry nitrous down every cylinder uses the same reason of why. Fogging the airbox cannot insure that every cylinder gets the same amount of nitrous OR (per toxic and others) that fogging the airbox is too dependant on the engine to be able to take in the same amount or nitrous. In other words, the only way a engine can take in the exact same amount per cylinder is to put it directly down in the cylinder. My question is, what can make a cylinder pull more nitrous than another AND just because one does is there a serious problem with that? Give me a legitamate answer and educate me. Now before anyone starts saying we have leakage and compression is down our engine is running perfectly and well tuned. Can you give me a answer?
Gixx1300R
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There are many varibale as to why but,the eddys and airflow inside the airbox. Nitrous will surpasses the incoming airflow pressure because of it's high pressure. It has been know to bounce off of the walls and roof of the airbox when fogging if he nozzles are placed between the velocity stacks and airfilter. This causes an uneven flow which may cause one cylinders to get less nitrous than the others. This will happen in only couple of milliseconds. If one cylinder gets a little less Nitrous than the other it is not really a problem until that cylinder starts to detonate if it happens more frequently. Case in point,in a ZX10's airbox the 2 inside velocity stacks catch air before the 2 outside ones becuase of the design of the airbox. If you were to Fog the airbox the 2 inside cylinders will get the hit microseconds before the outside ones. Is this a problem? Not really unless you are spraying pretty big (100 shot or more). If you place the nozzles in front of the air filter this helps evening distribute the nitrous. the Air filter straightens out the flow but it is a softer hit because the Nitrous is has less density.
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kingofdacoast
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Lets just work with a stock, unmodified busa airbox with stock filter. So your saying nozzle placement has a direct affect on how the "fog" is being applied in the airbox?
kingofdacoast
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Why would I share with you when all you do is make bs comments?
Gixx1300R
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Correct. NOS make 2 types of Dry Fogger nozzles that most people use. One is a 90 degree Fan spray nozzles and the other is a straight shot that sprays out of the end straight up. If you place the 90 degree fan spray nozzles too close to the velocity stacks then the 2 center cylinders will load with nitrous more the end ones. You can use 2 fan spray nozzles but the position is critical so that the sprays will not overlap,if the spray pattern overlaps then you will still have the same problem with the 2 center velocity stacks. The straight shot bounces off of the roof of the airbox lid or filter.
