Why did you get your Gen 3? Was it what you wanted it originally?

[Rubberrabbit]

Hm... how did I get into Gen 3? Well, I never thought that I would ever buy a Hayabusa. I've never had much interest in the Busa. In 2018 I got back in after a 10 year break, I was on the road with an SV650X for a while. Great bike, but then I wanted something with more power, something that was more of a motorcycle.

But in Germany there is hardly anything like that. Only adventure or naked bikes, athletes with 750 or 600 cc and full fairing are practically extinct. Although I never wanted a naked, I settled on a GSX-S750. Good workmanship, nice color.....but after a few weeks I realized that the bike and I will never be in love. My butt hurt after a short time, sitting upright and the tubular handlebars weren't for me, to this day I don't understand what people think of it. And the engine.....well, it only had two stages. All or nothing! Either no performance or everything... very inharmonious and constantly designed for speed.

I've always been a fan of sports bikes, but by the time we got into the very expensive super sports bikes, there wasn't anything else on the market and I wanted my bike new. In addition, SUzuki has a very bad reputation here in Germany. That made it extremely difficult to resell, I couldn't go to any other brand because the prices there were a disaster.

My dealer called me and said the new Hayabusa was here, I could take a look at it. Up until that moment, I thought it was out of the question that I would ever drive such a heavy bomber. I hardly ever ride the Autobahn, but rather country roads, so I didn't think the bike would be suitable for it.

When I saw them live, I fell in love immediately. The bike was like the super sports bikes from the 2000's. The old guard! I sat perfectly on it, felt comfortable straight away and bought it without a test drive as we still had snow at the time. I could also have bought a GSX-R1000R in the 20th edition, which was limited to 60 pieces here in Germany.

But it was a few thousand euros more expensive and I'm happy to take my daughter with me, that would have been impossible on the bike. Something that many tend to forget is that the Busa is also suitable for two.

Since I've driven them I know why the fans love them so much and drive them so much, it's quite unique. I don't want anything else until I stop driving.

 

[Bumblebee]

As a gen 2 rider I have to say, the best thing about a gen 3 is the fact that it even exists..it could have very easily gone the way of other bikes and disappeared with Suzuki thinking it is no longer relevant.

But, Suzuki kept it alive and good on them....it may not be all that we were hoping for but that's what the aftermarket is for. It is still the bike that doesn't do any one thing outstanding but still does many things great.

In reality, Suzuki had to draw the line in the sand somewhere between giving us a bike that follows the lineage of it's predecessor or being so over-priced that it would go extinct.

I watch a few You Tube videos depicting roll races between Hayabusa and liter bikes and in almost each and every video the Hayabusa slowly disappears into the distance behind the liter bike and I often wonder how realistic this is.....when I punch the throttle of my old gen 2, it is downright scary at how fast the thing gathers in speed...and the gen 3 is even faster in the mid range so I just can't fathom one getting trounced so handily.....

 

[Berteric.]

Hm... how did I get into Gen 3? Well, I never thought that I would ever buy a Hayabusa. I've never had much interest in the Busa. In 2018 I got back in after a 10 year break, I was on the road with an SV650X for a while. Great bike, but then I wanted something with more power, something that was more of a motorcycle.

But in Germany there is hardly anything like that. Only adventure or naked bikes, athletes with 750 or 600 cc and full fairing are practically extinct. Although I never wanted a naked, I settled on a GSX-S750. Good workmanship, nice color.....but after a few weeks I realized that the bike and I will never be in love. My butt hurt after a short time, sitting upright and the tubular handlebars weren't for me, to this day I don't understand what people think of it. And the engine.....well, it only had two stages. All or nothing! Either no performance or everything... very inharmonious and constantly designed for speed.

I've always been a fan of sports bikes, but by the time we got into the very expensive super sports bikes, there wasn't anything else on the market and I wanted my bike new. In addition, SUzuki has a very bad reputation here in Germany. That made it extremely difficult to resell, I couldn't go to any other brand because the prices there were a disaster.

My dealer called me and said the new Hayabusa was here, I could take a look at it. Up until that moment, I thought it was out of the question that I would ever drive such a heavy bomber. I hardly ever ride the Autobahn, but rather country roads, so I didn't think the bike would be suitable for it.

When I saw them live, I fell in love immediately. The bike was like the super sports bikes from the 2000's. The old guard! I sat perfectly on it, felt comfortable straight away and bought it without a test drive as we still had snow at the time. I could also have bought a GSX-R1000R in the 20th edition, which was limited to 60 pieces here in Germany.

But it was a few thousand euros more expensive and I'm happy to take my daughter with me, that would have been impossible on the bike. Something that many tend to forget is that the Busa is also suitable for two.

Since I've driven them I know why the fans love them so much and drive them so much, it's quite unique. I don't want anything else until I stop driving.

That’s a very good explanation why you finally chose the hayabusa... good choice.
But why does Suzuki have a bad reputation in Germany?

 

[Rubberrabbit]

That’s a very good explanation why you finally chose the hayabusa... good choice.
But why does Suzuki have a bad reputation in Germany?

Well Germany is very decadent! Only European brands count here, that wasn't always the case. 20 years ago Suzuki had a 20% market share. With SV, Gixxer, Bandit and other series, sales were always top. Meanwhile, only KTM, BMW, Ducati, Aprilia count among the Germans. The Japanese brands hardly play a role. Honda possibly because of the top quality that has been proven over the years, or the MT models from Yamaha are very popular, and the retros from Kawasaki are still selling reasonably well. But the Japanese don't stand a chance against European brands. Especially not Suzuki! You still have a 2% market share, and it's still shrinking.

Suzuki had a reputation here, especially in the 90's, for building quite mediocre quality and not always being reliable. In addition, there is the lousy product range here, a bad general importer and a small dealer network. For the German, a Suzuki is a low budget motorcycle that you only buy because of the price. So you should know exactly what to expect when you buy one. Selling is hard!

 

[Berteric.]

Well Germany is very decadent! Only European brands count here, that wasn't always the case. 20 years ago Suzuki had a 20% market share. With SV, Gixxer, Bandit and other series, sales were always top. Meanwhile, only KTM, BMW, Ducati, Aprilia count among the Germans. The Japanese brands hardly play a role. Honda possibly because of the top quality that has been proven over the years, or the MT models from Yamaha are very popular, and the retros from Kawasaki are still selling reasonably well. But the Japanese don't stand a chance against European brands. Especially not Suzuki! You still have a 2% market share, and it's still shrinking.

Suzuki had a reputation here, especially in the 90's, for building quite mediocre quality and not always being reliable. In addition, there is the lousy product range here, a bad general importer and a small dealer network. For the German, a Suzuki is a low budget motorcycle that you only buy because of the price. So you should know exactly what to expect when you buy one. Selling is hard!

True, that's pretty much the case in all European countries. Suzuki is struggling to keep up. But not being reliable is a bit strange.

 

[SPECIALFORCESOFGOD]

That sure is a good looking Ninja.....

I agree. She now looks like a bumblebee with the knock-off Rizoma Stealth mirrors.

 

[SPECIALFORCESOFGOD]

I ordered my new 2023 Hayabusa just yesterday (Friday 6/01/23). I was looking to buy a used gen2 which I went and test rode. Lovely bike too, in stunning red (2013 model). When I returned to the dealer to do the deal he had a new 2023 with almost £2,000 knocked off as it was pre-registered. Well the price was just too much to ignore, and an hour or so later I was the proud owner of an all black, brand spanking new 2023 model 'Busa.
Having previously owned 5 gen 1's I am a bit of a Hayabusa veteran, but am really looking forward to my new bike being delivered....stroll on warm dry days...

I love the red one. To me it looks so classy. But crazy how you ended up on a Gen 3 without planning it. Timing was perfect, and you've already sampled the previous gens. That '23 was for you for realsies.

 

[SPECIALFORCESOFGOD]

Hm... how did I get into Gen 3? Well, I never thought that I would ever buy a Hayabusa. I've never had much interest in the Busa. In 2018 I got back in after a 10 year break, I was on the road with an SV650X for a while. Great bike, but then I wanted something with more power, something that was more of a motorcycle.

But in Germany there is hardly anything like that. Only adventure or naked bikes, athletes with 750 or 600 cc and full fairing are practically extinct. Although I never wanted a naked, I settled on a GSX-S750. Good workmanship, nice color.....but after a few weeks I realized that the bike and I will never be in love. My butt hurt after a short time, sitting upright and the tubular handlebars weren't for me, to this day I don't understand what people think of it. And the engine.....well, it only had two stages. All or nothing! Either no performance or everything... very inharmonious and constantly designed for speed.

I've always been a fan of sports bikes, but by the time we got into the very expensive super sports bikes, there wasn't anything else on the market and I wanted my bike new. In addition, SUzuki has a very bad reputation here in Germany. That made it extremely difficult to resell, I couldn't go to any other brand because the prices there were a disaster.

My dealer called me and said the new Hayabusa was here, I could take a look at it. Up until that moment, I thought it was out of the question that I would ever drive such a heavy bomber. I hardly ever ride the Autobahn, but rather country roads, so I didn't think the bike would be suitable for it.

When I saw them live, I fell in love immediately. The bike was like the super sports bikes from the 2000's. The old guard! I sat perfectly on it, felt comfortable straight away and bought it without a test drive as we still had snow at the time. I could also have bought a GSX-R1000R in the 20th edition, which was limited to 60 pieces here in Germany.

But it was a few thousand euros more expensive and I'm happy to take my daughter with me, that would have been impossible on the bike. Something that many tend to forget is that the Busa is also suitable for two.

Since I've driven them I know why the fans love them so much and drive them so much, it's quite unique. I don't want anything else until I stop driving.

Your situation is so different from ours in the CONUS and its territories. We have more choices.

And, I agree. It's why I settled on the 'Busa just by watching video reviews. It is made for two people. It is stable. It is comfy. It looks distinctive. It feels distinctive.

I'm glad it didn't change much from the original formula, because in the past I rode mostly with 'Busa riders but we never traded bikes, so I never even sat on one before buying mine, which wasn't even in the store. It got delivered.

I'm not missing out a lot from the original model. Also, good thing I loved how it felt. Looking back, buying a totally new bike without even sitting on it first was incredibly stupid on my part.

But, I trusted reviewers all saying it was comfy on the wrists and butt. Like you, I don't want anything else.

I waited 22 years to finally ride one, and now I can say the Hayabusa set a new standard for me and raised the bar.

It can also handle corners better and faster than I would ever dare to push it. My chicken strips are like half an inch without me even trying, ha-ha.

 

[SPECIALFORCESOFGOD]

I bought the Gen 3 to turbo it and considered a gsxr 1000 but feel the Busa just makes more sense to turbo. I like how the cylinder and case are separate. Considered a ninja H2 but feel it has limitations and wouldn’t be as fast. Also seems like a nightmare to work on.

I’m super happy with it.

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That place looks so dreamy with the mountains in the background and the houses in the back. Wow! I absolutely love that location and feel nice things staring at that picture. Where is it?

 

[SPECIALFORCESOFGOD]

As a gen 2 rider I have to say, the best thing about a gen 3 is the fact that it even exists..it could have very easily gone the way of other bikes and disappeared with Suzuki thinking it is no longer relevant.

But, Suzuki kept it alive and good on them....it may not be all that we were hoping for but that's what the aftermarket is for. It is still the bike that doesn't do any one thing outstanding but still does many things great.

In reality, Suzuki had to draw the line in the sand somewhere between giving us a bike that follows the lineage of it's predecessor or being so over-priced that it would go extinct.

I watch a few You Tube videos depicting roll races between Hayabusa and liter bikes and in almost each and every video the Hayabusa slowly disappears into the distance behind the liter bike and I often wonder how realistic this is.....when I punch the throttle of my old gen 2, it is downright scary at how fast the thing gathers in speed...and the gen 3 is even faster in the mid range so I just can't fathom one getting trounced so handily.....

I think it depends on the riders and the mods. In a 650ib video, there's this big dude on a Gen 3 laying the smackdown on a lot of new literbikes, and the guy had the worst power to weight ratio of the group. He was side by side with the Aprilias and Ducatis when rolling and only fell to the back in the top end.

 

[sixpack577]

As a gen 2 rider I have to say, the best thing about a gen 3 is the fact that it even exists..it could have very easily gone the way of other bikes and disappeared with Suzuki thinking it is no longer relevant.

But, Suzuki kept it alive and good on them....it may not be all that we were hoping for but that's what the aftermarket is for. It is still the bike that doesn't do any one thing outstanding but still does many things great.

In reality, Suzuki had to draw the line in the sand somewhere between giving us a bike that follows the lineage of it's predecessor or being so over-priced that it would go extinct.

I watch a few You Tube videos depicting roll races between Hayabusa and liter bikes and in almost each and every video the Hayabusa slowly disappears into the distance behind the liter bike and I often wonder how realistic this is.....when I punch the throttle of my old gen 2, it is downright scary at how fast the thing gathers in speed...and the gen 3 is even faster in the mid range so I just can't fathom one getting trounced so handily.....

Maybe those gen3's don't have velocity stacks(as I bet many still don't), or an ecu flash?
So they're basically done at 10k rpm, while the 1k's are revving over 13k, so they're just pulling longer?
The 1k's do weight 100-150lbs less than a stock Busa too, but their aerodynamics are noticeably not as good at high speed either(as we know).
At about 130mph on the '18 gsxr1k, it really starts to feel fast, not because it's unstable, but just because the wind is so much more noticeable.
Vs the Busa, that we know to be very smooth all the way to the top, which has always been very impressive.

 

[Bumblebee]

Maybe those gen3's don't have velocity stacks(as I bet many still don't), or an ecu flash?
So they're basically done at 10k rpm, while the 1k's are revving over 13k, so they're just pulling longer?
The 1k's do weight 100-150lbs less than a stock Busa too, but their aerodynamics are noticeably not as good at high speed either(as we know).
At about 130mph on the '18 gsxr1k, it really starts to feel fast, not because it's unstable, but just because the wind is so much more noticeable.
Vs the Busa, that we know to be very smooth all the way to the top, which has always been very impressive.

I have noted the other generations suffer the same fate in the videos,

I almost think that sometimes they are staged to make the owner of the video to look more impressive....although that is just a theory and not substantiated.

 

[sixpack577]

I have noted the other generations suffer the same fate in the videos,

I almost think that sometimes they are staged to make the owner of the video to look more impressive....although that is just a theory and not substantiated.

I wouldn't doubt it, because as you know, if you're in close race at nearing top speeds, you need Alot more hp to just walk away from a Busa, especially with aerodynamics.
The 1k's have to put distance on a Busa by the quarter mile, otherwise the Busa starts reeling them back in.
We know modern 1k's are quicker, but I'm not believing that they're putting those huge gaps on the Busa once they're both up top.

 

[Bumblebee]

I wouldn't doubt it, because as you know, if you're in close race at nearing top speeds, you need Alot more hp to just walk away from a Busa, especially with aerodynamics.
The 1k's have to put distance on a Busa by the quarter mile, otherwise the Busa starts reeling them back in.
We know modern 1k's are quicker, but I'm not believing that they're putting those huge gaps on the Busa once they're both up top.

I know that my neighbor and his M1000 wasn't walking away from me much to his surprise...that was the only time I opened it up against another bike but it sure wasn't a slouch.

 

[GSXRme]

As of now, Chris Moore says there will be no 2024 gsxr1k in the U.S.

Suzuki won't let that happen. Wait the 2024 gsxr1000 will have dual exhaust and and ECU killing the power to 135hp if they have too.

Although a VVT GSXR1000 could also please the evil government and also help us at the same time.

 

[sixpack577]

Suzuki won't let that happen. Wait the 2024 gsxr1000 will have dual exhaust and and ECU killing the power to 135hp if they have too.

Although a VVT GSXR1000 could also please the evil government and also help us at the same time.

Considering the '18 that I ride makes 147whp stock on Moore's dyno, it shouldn't be a problem to choke it more, lol
But yeah, maybe they'll up the tech, and leave alot more on the table for the tuners to find.
We can hope.

 

[TonyM995]

That place looks so dreamy with the mountains in the background and the houses in the back. Wow! I absolutely love that location and feel nice things staring at that picture. Where is it?

Hey there, I’m in Colorado. It’s cold and snowy right now so it looks completely different.

 

[zucchero]

I am just curious to know how well is the GEN3 sales worldwide.Have googled it many times but couldn't exactly find it.Are they selling good numbers worldwide.In INDIA they are doing decent numbers.