Yeah I can really see that woman planting sod
I think that would get her more than an outrageous ticket she can probably afford
Woman gets a $835 parking ticket.
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I think that would get her more than an outrageous ticket she can probably afford
I'm just saying, take the woman out of the equation, could be an old man on a horse driven buggy, The penalty did not fit the offence. I am not trying to argue for the woman she deserved the ticket. I just want to see fair justice for all, not just see people jump on someone for what they drive or how big of an idiot they are. Lord knows we ride Busas and and are stereotyped enough... No offense taken Blanca.... I want people to take the emotion out of this and think about this logically...
MelodicMetalGod
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I think there was some joking around about such things, but for my part, this issue is irrelevant: Rich or poor, abide by the law and you won't get a ticket. Break the law and you do. Either way, you don't get to pick your own punishment, even if the penalty is uncomfortable.
As for "ALL" of us parking illegaly on a regular basis, I can only speak for myself to say that I consider it an obligation to park legally and consider it smart to do so for the safety of myself and my vehicles in most cases. On the RARE occassion that I see a clear and pressing need to park otherwise in order to avoid an unfortunate real life scenario, I do so reluctantly and only if there are no other rational options.
Once again, parking illegaly to avoid hazards or theft is one thing. But it was not the issue in the case at hand. She CHOSE completely of her own free will, with no particular need, to park illegaly. She got busted. Now she wants to set the punishment to a level of her own choosing.
Does that make ANY sense?
MelodicMetalGod
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Emotion has nothing to do with it. In fact, the argumet against $835 probably is inspired by emotion more than anything else. Most of us have never seen a ticket even half that amount, that's likely where all the outrage is coming from.
If it was an old man in a buggy, it still wouldn't matter. He broke the law, he pays the fine.
No what would be worth considering is if the old man couldn't read. Then maybe you give him a warning.
Or if he's senile. Then you take his license as he's a danger on the road.
Or if he's cripple. Then you dismiss the ticket and work to accomadate his handicap through assistance or adding acessiblity features.
Ya see, it's not a witch hunt on this lady or folks that can afford big $$$ cars. It's about laws being made in the service of the public interest and some folks deciding their above those laws or that they can afford to pay for the privilege of breaking those laws while everyone else has to deal. If everyone was considerate and courteous, laws wouldn't be needed at all. As it stands, they are DEFINITELY needed and if ya want a law to be worth the paper it's written on, a truly stiff penalty makes perfect sense. Obviously, that town doesn't want ya parking on the grass and it looks like they'll have a lot less trouble in that department. Why? $835, that's why. If the number $20, nobody would care, least of all folks like the lady that got the ticket.
She does not get to choose how much she pays, nor do we if we park illegally, no matter what the excuse, I never said anything about doing this on a regular basis... Take the woman out of the equation. The fine should be the same for ALL people rich, poor ect... And this fine is TOO HIGH. If it was a cripple old man would you feel the same? In this case it was an airhead driving an Escalade... Cripple or an airhead...THE FINE WAS TOO HIGH for the offense...
MelodicMetalGod
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I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. So...
...IMHO "Cripple or airhead" is NOT the same thing. The cripple has real considerations and limitations to work around. The lady has no such issues as far as we know. Therefore, the infraction might be dismissed or the penalty lessened or removed for the cripple while the lady should be fined to the maximum of the law. Why? One has a choice, the other one, maybe, doesn't.
If the lady can make a case that she had a real and pressing need to do what she did, throw the case out. But if she simply chose to do as she pleased, well, she's EXACTLY why the fine is $835 and should be made to pay it.
The fine should be the same for both, equal justice under the law, Let the court decide on someone's competency. Back to my original point. This fine is too high for a non moving violation...In Iowa speeding fines go from $50 to $500. Per section 321.277 Iowa code...
It just seems ridiculous to have such a fine on a non moving violation...
It just seems ridiculous to have such a fine on a non moving violation...
Gpmo
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Here is some real numbers for parking violations in Iowa
Parking Violation Costs
Handicapped Parking Violation...$100
Fire Lane Violation...$25
Snow Route Violation...$35
All Other Violations...$15 (not inculding prompt pay discount)
Oh and driving on the side walk is a designated lanes ticket i believe... and the ticket cost in CO is roughly $45.00 and 1 point....not that i know from experience
So based on what that says then how is $835.00 a fair and just fine that goes with the standards of the state? By saying that she deserves that high of a fine is because you are angry because you think she felt privileged and can do what ever she likes. I think everyone agrees she deserved the ticket and everyone agrees that fines should be imposed. But using the standards of their state this is an unjust amount to pay.
Parking Violation Costs
Handicapped Parking Violation...$100
Fire Lane Violation...$25
Snow Route Violation...$35
All Other Violations...$15 (not inculding prompt pay discount)
Oh and driving on the side walk is a designated lanes ticket i believe... and the ticket cost in CO is roughly $45.00 and 1 point....not that i know from experience
So based on what that says then how is $835.00 a fair and just fine that goes with the standards of the state? By saying that she deserves that high of a fine is because you are angry because you think she felt privileged and can do what ever she likes. I think everyone agrees she deserved the ticket and everyone agrees that fines should be imposed. But using the standards of their state this is an unjust amount to pay.
Here is some real numbers for parking violations in Iowa
Parking Violation Costs
Handicapped Parking Violation...$100
Fire Lane Violation...$25
Snow Route Violation...$35
All Other Violations...$15 (not inculding prompt pay discount)
Oh and driving on the side walk is a designated lanes ticket i believe... and the ticket cost in CO is roughly $45.00 and 1 point....not that i know from experience
So based on what that says then how is $835.00 a fair and just fine that goes with the standards of the state? By saying that she deserves that high of a fine is because you are angry because you think she felt privileged and can do what ever she likes. I think everyone agrees she deserved the ticket and everyone agrees that fines should be imposed. But using the standards of their state this is an unjust amount to pay.
So she was better off parking in a handicap spot and saved some $.
Or on the fire lane (which i think is too low by the way) Something like that I would think should be higher.
I think they got to work on that, people will keep park there, nobody think they will get a huge fine just to park there. Like someone stated before, they need to get a fence.
Gpmo
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I am fairly sure it is much higher in colorado. i want to say a handicap violation is 250.00. But ya i agree with you very much they should be higher.
I bet if she was driving a Honda accord her train of thought would have been more respectful of the law and posted laws. I don't want to seem like I'm trying to argue with you either Smac. It's just that I as a commoner live amongst the rich and super rich in South Florida and folks like her do think different from I and most likely you. Doesn't matter what the crime is her lawyer will get her off hence the zero respect.
Short story a friend of mine for many years about ten years ago made the mistake of his life and 'trafficked cocaine'. Air force vet never even a speedig ticket in his life. I testified at his federal trial as did many on his behalf. After it was all said and done this is what the judge said to him,
'Mr 'Smith' I've reviewed your financial situation and since there is no possibility on your part to pay a fine I'm forced to remand you to the federal prison system for a term of not less than five years'
My friend was black and could not pay a huge fine a 'rich whitey' may have been able to pay so he went directly to jail. In no way am I being racial but that statement from the judge irked me to no end. I felt like jumping up and asking the judge if the guy could have afforded a penalty if he would have gone free!
Sad that in today's world folks think $ can buy anything or get them out of anything. And the saddest part of it all is that she the lady who got the ticket will pay it and most likely not learn anything from it other than that evil city cop gave her a ticket too high!
Way too high for a non moving violation imo
I think the ones on the fire lane should be a lil higher, not only $25
Laws and fines should be the same whether we drive a Honda or a Lambo. My opinion was the fine was to high for a parking offense. Sorry about your friend, that would have pissed me off too... I too am a commoner living in a "well to do area" and I know where you are coming from with the attitudes of some but we as a society should not have different laws for different people. No matter a non moving violation should not be two to three times that of a moving violation. Why is it so high?
Gpmo
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For sure. And the ticket for not yielding to the right away of emergency vehicles.
And these are things that we can talk to our representatives about to increase or decrease.
I will leave the talking to the representatives to that lady
Im not by any mean defending this lady, she does deserve a ticket, but the fine just seems to high for me just for a parking ticket. Specialy if moving violation are much lower. I tell you that I will try no to park in nobodys grass just in case they love it so much.
cqt1414
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There are countless people who have worked so very hard their entire lives for a company, or to make a company of their own grow. They want to live a comfortable and SAFE life. They want to put the young people they care about in a good college. These are the kind of people that contribute to the growth, job creation, and tax revenue that make this country strong. But increasingly these days, there is a disturbing trend. if they accomplish some of these things, it is becoming more common to label them as greedy, evil and undertaxed.
Race was not an issue in this discussion until you brought it in with your negative comment on white people. If you think people with money are all "rich whitey" as you just said, then you need to visit Texas. There are people from every corner of the globe with money, with every skin tone. I do not have sympathy for your drug dealing friend who got a relatively light sentence for contributing to the drug trade (which 'may' fund terrorist activity). I respect his time in the service, but that does not in any way clear him of his felonious behavior..
I would also point out there are huge numbers of people in jail who could not afford even the smallest fine. And many of them are white. So you can take your pity party elsewhere.
I love to joke around on here and pull a few chains,, and get poked back at also
... but my opinion is you are dead wrong to reach to the bottom of the deck, and deal the race card on this one. Respectfully
J'Man
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Come on Saiid, no need to go here....anyway back on topic.
This got me thinking, what if the person's car was only worth about $850? Should you just sign the title over to them and call it even?
J/KThe lady definitely deserved it for acting like a tool and parking there, but $850 is ridiculous. Besides, by the looks of things she didn't appear to be hurting for money. It would've been more of an inconvience if her nice Escalade would've been gone when she got out of the game. She would've had to hunt down the towing company and pay any related fines which would've definitely taught her a lesson.
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