May GOD bless and protect them sir.
And, a sincere thankyou to them for their service and sacrifice.
Afghanistan....
- Thread starter Bumblebee
- Start date
And, a sincere thankyou to them for their service and sacrifice.
Taliban fighters would often blend into normal everyday civilian activities and even engage in simple conversation with our interpreters like every other farmer or person...
As soon as we would move on, they would often attempt to ambush us or conduct surveillance. What they didn't realize we would have layback patrols set up covertly to oversee the area with the assistance of drone and satellites...they would catch them ghosting us.
Even with all the tech we had at our availability, the Taliban fighters were still able to elude many conventional forces and set up IED ambush sites...very effectively I might add.
You are correct, we had no time to consider politics or other rhetoric, we were very aware of the big picture and how our activities fit into that but we had very concise and focused missions to conduct.
You do acknowledge Trump left the Afghans out of the process and negotiated the surrender with the Taliban right? Even invited them to Camp David, elevating terrorists to the level of the greatest statesman of our time. Or are you a member of the antifact crew?
I believe the intentions of the deal was good, there was also a stern warning about what would happen should the Taliban misbehave.
More about that in the linky below:
Afghan conflict: US and Taliban sign deal to end 18-year war
President Trump says it is "time after all these years to bring our people back home".
www.bbc.com
JeffSyh
Registered
If american people are still trapped it's not a rock or a hard place you fight for your country men end of story.... biden f'd up the withdrawal he damn well better have the balls to stand up and make sure not a single innocent american or nato civilian gets behead by those barbarians.... I can guarantee every military person would have no problems saving their own.
It's very obvious you have read nothing I have written in any posts on this subject.
Bee, when you were over there, were you ever fully briefed about the big picture, the small picture, meaning the vision, the mission and the final objectives which needs accomplishment towards reaching those?
I'm not antifact.
I said Trump would have handled it differently, he did, and he was.
I'm sure Trump would've just woke up and said, "ok, today's the day, everybody out, and uh oh, we need to ask permission to go back and get U.S. citizens...
Whatever.
We don't agree, and after your little "cave" comment the other day, I could really give a F about your opinion.
No, it's not thin skin, it's just not taking bs from disrespectful people anymore.
I can post my opinion, you can post yours, we can participate in the same threads...we just don't need to speak directly.
I was but I'm not at liberty to say much about the missions we undertook....I wasn't in conventional forces.
Wow, does that mean you gave a F before I posted that? Lol. OK, I like that - no direct communication. See there we ended in agreement! Wheelie on buddy!
So does that mean you knew the Afghan forces were simply pawns of NATO and the US when you served there and that they would defect, desert and hand over to the Taliban the moment you looked the other way?
mark3evo
Registered
The Taliban have released a propaganda video in which its fighters appear to be dressed in stolen US military uniforms and carrying US-made assault rifles.
The video, with a musical soundtrack, was aired on propaganda channels affiliated with the insurgent group. It said the group had deployed an elite unit called "Badri 313" to guard locations in Kabul.
The uniforms and weapons brandished by the men appear to be taken from stockpiles that US special forces had provided to the Afghan army.
The insurgents can be seen wielding M4 and M-16 assault rifles, wearing bulletproof vests and helmets with night vision goggles, The Sun reported.
www.thesun.co.uk
The video, with a musical soundtrack, was aired on propaganda channels affiliated with the insurgent group. It said the group had deployed an elite unit called "Badri 313" to guard locations in Kabul.
The uniforms and weapons brandished by the men appear to be taken from stockpiles that US special forces had provided to the Afghan army.
The insurgents can be seen wielding M4 and M-16 assault rifles, wearing bulletproof vests and helmets with night vision goggles, The Sun reported.
Taliban mocks West with video showing fanatics in ‘US military gear’
TALIBAN propaganda channels are showing brazen fanatics tooled up in the streets of Kabul in what appears to be stolen US-made military gear. The ISIS-style video shows troops armed to the te…
www.thesun.co.uk
Well, we are looking at Trump's efforts through a different filter but I will say that getting out of Afghanistan was a necessary evil and it would have taken at least the first Biden administration to do it if Trump had not signed the treaty.I believe the intentions of the deal was good, there was also a stern warning about what would happen should the Taliban misbehave.
More about that in the linky below:
Afghan conflict: US and Taliban sign deal to end 18-year war
President Trump says it is "time after all these years to bring our people back home".
The guys I talked to about this all said the same thing: We keep asking what side these guys are on but they don't think like that. They are on whichever side benefits them on a particular day. They never latched onto the concept of a country or allegiance. That is the fundamental problem with trying to make Afghanistan a country or using afghanis to do it. They just don't think "country".
Nobody could know this, I trained special forces, they were at least dedicated and motivated..
As for the conventional forces, I had some faith in them but not a whole lot....did I or anyone I know think they would run away and desert in the face of the Taliban...no we didn't and couldn't....
All during the conflict the Taliban embedded their soldiers into the ANA and these soldiers killed from within...not a new tactic...it got so bad, there were sentries posted behind the training cadre just in case.The Taliban have released a propaganda video in which its fighters appear to be dressed in stolen US military uniforms and carrying US-made assault rifles.
The video, with a musical soundtrack, was aired on propaganda channels affiliated with the insurgent group. It said the group had deployed an elite unit called "Badri 313" to guard locations in Kabul.
The uniforms and weapons brandished by the men appear to be taken from stockpiles that US special forces had provided to the Afghan army.
The insurgents can be seen wielding M4 and M-16 assault rifles, wearing bulletproof vests and helmets with night vision goggles, The Sun reported.
Taliban mocks West with video showing fanatics in ‘US military gear’
TALIBAN propaganda channels are showing brazen fanatics tooled up in the streets of Kabul in what appears to be stolen US-made military gear. The ISIS-style video shows troops armed to the te…
Some of the headlines coming out of the news are just (to quote Tristan) "dumb." I saw one this morning that read " Impossible to ensure safety of Afghans once Canada, US leave Kabul: experts" I sure don't know what "expert" quoted this but they are pretty thick to think anything else...
....and there are many "dumb" headlines like that....
There is absolutely no way the coalition can airlift that many people out in this short time frame...I imagine half of the people of Afghanistan want to leave....doing this is like trying to airlift everyone out of Chicago in 2 weeks while under threat of attack.
The deadline is looming and unless the US and others want to go back in to fight another 20 yrs, they need to get their rear ends out of there...the Taliban just don't care that there are people still in Afghanistan who want to leave...if we don't get out when they say, I can see commercial airliners being blown up on the tarmac and many coalition soldiers lives' in peril...
....and there are many "dumb" headlines like that....
There is absolutely no way the coalition can airlift that many people out in this short time frame...I imagine half of the people of Afghanistan want to leave....doing this is like trying to airlift everyone out of Chicago in 2 weeks while under threat of attack.
The deadline is looming and unless the US and others want to go back in to fight another 20 yrs, they need to get their rear ends out of there...the Taliban just don't care that there are people still in Afghanistan who want to leave...if we don't get out when they say, I can see commercial airliners being blown up on the tarmac and many coalition soldiers lives' in peril...
Similar threads
