Afghanistan....

Bumblebee said:
One thing which was great about my former job was I never worried or concerned myself with the politics of why I was doing what I was doing. We were aware of the nuances but couldn't let those influence what we had to do.

We were given mission orders and ROEs then off we went to get it done...such a simple life. It wasn't until I retired that I started to (sort of) delve into why we were needed to do what we did.....in reality, it is a scary world out there, people are living and dying at the whim of a political leader.

Although I was aware of the points you brought forward...to see them all accumulated in one spot is sobering.
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Yep. I was a contractor for our State Dept. I was young, full of energy, patriotic, and always problem solved with success.

We had interest in so many things it added to the excitement.

Sun 2AM phone rings. Going to Turkey tomorrow.

Not sure exactly what I was going for. But we did a lot of "Need to Know" mentality. If I'm going, they have a reason. You get briefed enroute and start working the job in your head already.

I got to see and do a lot.

Then you get away from it. See what the media does and doesn't say. What the politicians do and don't say.

We have our tentacles everywhere. Good and bad. There is a lot of things that need to stay in place for our greater good.

I can look back on some of it and go. If people knew this chyt, there would be chaos all over.
 
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Just got a call my niece is heading to Afghanistan to secure a embassy. Knowing what her qualifications are, I’m surprised she is going. She’s in a mp unit however she’s eod and a dog trainer. Does the general public honestly believe we can pull out of somewhere and not return?

sorry, a bit frustrating. I’m proud of her and she will do her job flawlessly, she just don’t need to be there. They knew what would happen if we cut bait.
 
Usually it is spec ops who go back in to secure and evacuate embassies....I trained lots of times under austere conditions but never had to actually do one...

Seems odd the US is randomly choosing people to go do this knowing they may have to fight their way out.
 
yep 600 UK forces are going back to allow the Embassy to move out. Interpreters would be the first to be murdered !

About 600 UK troops are to be sent to Afghanistan to assist British nationals to leave, the government has announced.
It comes as the Taliban seized the country's second-largest city, Kandahar, as well as the cities of Ghazni and Herat.
Military personnel will provide protection and help relocate UK nationals, Afghan staff and interpreters.
Last week the Foreign Office advised all British nationals to leave.
It is estimated that about 4,000 British citizens were still in the country.
 
The Taliban ruled Afghanistan before the NATO invasion and it looks like they will again....there is talk of a civil war but that will be quickly quelled.

I can only imagine what the future holds for Afghanistan but it definitely won't be pleasant...

The ANA folded up like a cheap suit....just like I predicted years ago.
 
I think the speed with which the Afghan forces crumbled was a shock, we thought we would have time to get everyone out safely. I think these troops are going back in to get the civilians out. State Department issued an order to get out now, don't worry about papers and passports just get to the embassies. That sounds like panic. As F'd up as all this looks, if the Afghans would have fought a little for their country Biden would be a genius for cutting the umbilical cord and making them stand on their own two feet.

This is going to be a mess. I just don't want anyone getting hurt for nothing. What a stupid thing to have to put your life on the line for. But getting those civilians out is a worthy mission I suppose. That's why I really mean it when I thank soldiers for their service. Special people.
 
Political BS
Thanks to whomever is propping up uncle Joe.
Sad for the Afghan people...more sad for the soldiers(and their families) who have to go back and start this over.

and just an fyi to all while I'm at it.
Let there never be a question, I love the United states, I love our military, and have the Highest respect for all who have and do serve, and I thank GOD that I am blessed to live here.
I count myelf better than no one, and could care less what color you are, or where you came from.
I AM however sick and tired of libtard, crybaby, antifa, poor pitiful me you deserve it bs.
I have no problem with myself or anyone helping anyone(as that's what we are supposed to do)but we have become the land of retards with their hands out.
Covid lockdowns for citizens, but flying and bussing untested illegal imagrants nationwide...the same illegals that are line jumping their own people who have been trying to come here legally.
Illegals literally getting away with murder, and right back on the street.
Gee, wonder what all the people trying to get here Legally think of that, or better yet, what would happen if I tried that.
It's only one of two things;
Our gov't officials Are that incompetant(at least the visible ones)
Or...this IS all a plan...
Rant over
 
sixpack577 said:
Political BS
Thanks to whomever is propping up uncle Joe.
Sad for the Afghan people...more sad for the soldiers(and their families) who have to go back and start this over.

and just an fyi to all while I'm at it.
Let there never be a question, I love the United states, I love our military, and have the Highest respect for all who have and do serve, and I thank GOD that I am blessed to live here.
I count myelf better than no one, and could care less what color you are, or where you came from.
I AM however sick and tired of libtard, crybaby, antifa, poor pitiful me you deserve it bs.
I have no problem with myself or anyone helping anyone(as that's what we are supposed to do)but we have become the land of retards with their hands out.
Covid lockdowns for citizens, but flying and bussing untested illegal imagrants nationwide...the same illegals that are line jumping their own people who have been trying to come here legally.
Illegals literally getting away with murder, and right back on the street.
Gee, wonder what all the people trying to get here Legally think of that, or better yet, what would happen if I tried that.
It's only one of two things;
Our gov't officials Are that incompetant(at least the visible ones)
Or...this IS all a plan...
Rant over
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There's nothing political about what is happening in Afghanistan other than the fact the ANA who were equipped and trained by all NATO forces crumbled before the advance of the Taliban....everyone hoped they'd fair better than they did...

International troops aren't going in to start all over, this is a smash and grab to get embassy people out...with luck there will be very little to no contact while they are doing this...

There is quite a bit of balking at how the government is running things and how unhappy that makes people....I'd love to take these people and dump them into Somalia or one of the other "lovely" tourist hot-spots for a while....these people would come back and kiss the very ground they stand on. I spent time in many of them mostly covertly and even so I felt guilty eating the meagre food we had while knowing these people were so bad off...Those failed states are a nasty place to have to live....there are 2 classes of people-super rich and super poor...

....and the US is not the only country on planet earth which has an illegal immigrant issue, other countries are flooded daily with refugees by the hundreds and thousands crossing their borders and little they can do short of rounding them all up in camps....of which there are thousands...
 
Illegal migrants are a world wide issue, migrants think London is paved with Gold, gang-masters steal boats in France and pile migrants in to cross the English channel , they pay thousands of dollars to the criminals to cross

A further 475 migrants crossed the English Channel in 15 small boats on Thursday, following a record 482 arrivals on Wednesday.
The Ministry of Defence earlier said an exercise on its firing range at Hythe had to be stopped on Wednesday when people landed on the beach there.
According to Home Office figures, there have now been 10,711 arrivals in more than 440 boats so far in 2021.

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sixpack577 said:
If they are bringing them to the U.S. the majority must be terrorists and taliban.
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They are coming here to Canada and are supposed to be cooks, interpreters', woman's rights activists and teachers...

We'll see who shows up.

As for terrorists and Taliban, they are already in our countries (or their families are) and many other countries keeping below the radar and working jobs to send money back in support of operations...
 
Bumblebee said:
They are coming here to Canada and are supposed to be cooks, interpreters', woman's rights activists and teachers...

We'll see who shows up.

As for terrorists and Taliban, they are already in our countries (or their families are) and many other countries keeping below the radar and working jobs to send money back in support of operations...
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in the recent UK bombings and mass stabbings 50% of terrorists were born here, they were radicalized by some Islam mosques
 
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