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Musk has great leadership skills. His immense achievements started from personal effort, but beyond that he has accomplished his successes through the people he surrounded himself with.

IMHO, no one with that level of leadership skills would vote for Kamala. It is a matter of there is really no other choice, but to vote for Trump.
I find Musk to be an eccentric similar to Howard Hughes in his way of thinking....

...or that of Henry Ford in his hey-day....very eccentric....remember "Fordlandia?"

I could see Musk doing something similar....
 

Finally we know.

Maybe we will stop getting offers for extended car warranties!
This the same NASA that bought a junk space craft from Boeing and had to leave 4 astronauts at the space station to fly it unmanned back to earth...

If so I'd take anything they have to say with a grain of salt...
 
This the same NASA that bought a junk space craft from Boeing and had to leave 4 astronauts at the space station to fly it unmanned back to earth...

If so I'd take anything they have to say with a grain of salt...
True. But Stephen Hawkings who predicted the date, is the 2nd smartest guy the world knows. The smartest guy in the world we are so fortunate to have as one of our own here.
 
Just watched a show called "The Nature of Things" and they had a scientist on there talking about the vibrations wind turbines in the ocean give off...it's causing whales to beach themselves and killing fish...

That's a cost of saving the planet I guess.....

...and there were other scientists and engineers speaking on the huge issue of trying to recycle these turbines and solar panels....right now there are stacks of broken or worn turbine blades and solar panels piling up with no way to recycle them...there are a few start up companies out there but nowhere near the amount required to do the job...
 
Just watched a show called "The Nature of Things" and they had a scientist on there talking about the vibrations wind turbines in the ocean give off...it's causing whales to beach themselves and killing fish...

That's a cost of saving the planet I guess.....

...and there were other scientis and engineers speaking on the huge issue of trying to recycle these turbines and solar panels....right now there are stacks of broken or worn turbine blades and solar panels piling up with no way to recycle them...there are a few start up companies out there but nowhere near the amount required to do the job...
Read up on what is happening with the Chinese Wind turbines. They are creating the largest in the world. And causing dire consequences to nature.

So yeah.....go green.
 
Read up on what is happening with the Chinese Wind turbines. They are creating the largest in the world. And causing dire consequences to nature.

So yeah.....go green.
I was still watching the program and they were talking about the toll to birds and how many get killed each day by these things....there is a company that goes around cleaning up the dead birds....
 
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We've just come back from visiting our son in another province....

He has a Hyundai Santa Fe plug in hybrid and it is a decent machine....if the battery had more range and the gas engine were able to charge it, it would be a great machine...he can go 60kms on strictly battery as long as he is very careful with the accelerator...if you are aggressive even a little, the gas engine kicks on in conjunction with the battery....

However, he is careful and can go a month without putting gas in it...

The air conditioner and heat only work with the gasoline engine running but he will push the envelope by not running the engine for heat....the last trip we went on it was below freezing and he eventually had to break down and run the engine as he was having a hard time seeing out the windows...

I don't believe they quite have the formula right for most hybrids yet.
 
Pretty impressive....

To show where the heart of America is....the F-150 is the highest selling vehicle in the US.....

And the best selling car in the US......the Toyota Camry of all things....

Best selling in Europe makes sense, a person can drive across it in a day or two unlike North Amercia
The size of Europe is pretty close, slightly bigger actually than the USA.

Have a Tundra 5.7L V8, which has been absolutely trouble free, at 140k miles, but getting a bit long in the tooth, starting to hear a wheel bearing hum. Looking at a F150 for the business to replace, rather than paying a chunk of that in taxes. The new Toyota Tundras seems to have a myriad of quality issues, including a recall for complete engine replacement.

 
The size of Europe is pretty close, slightly bigger actually than the USA.

Have a Tundra 5.7L V8, which has been absolutely trouble free, at 140k miles, but getting a bit long in the tooth, starting to hear a wheel bearing hum. Looking at a F150 for the business to replace, rather than paying a chunk of that in taxes. The new Toyota Tundras seems to have a myriad of quality issues, including a recall for complete engine replacement.

I know several people that have made the switch from Tundra to F-150 and were very happy they did....

A good friend of mine waited on a Tundra TRD Pro for months and finally gave up and got a Raptor...

I do like the look of the new Tundras though....
 
With the state of our economy......and the shortage of copper, I can't see EV becoming mainstream for quite some time....
Well Ding Ding Ding. Finally someone brings up the copper wall!

Good for you Bee!

I don't read every post in this thread. So perhaps it's been brought up. But I have yet to see all these pro EV fanboys address the fact that there is no way EVs can become the primary means of transport if you can't build them due to material shortages. Copper is finite. There isn't enough mined that can hope to build the number of EVs required to become a large segment.

Even when they work out the math and realize that, it takes about a decade to mine new copper.

And that's assuming they can discover enough new deposits.

I'm pretty sure Elon, Ford, etc know this. They just want to pick the consumers pockets and suck up any govt subsidies they can, until the wall is in sight. And then when everyone else sees it, ker pift, they have moved on to the next train robbery.

And then EVs become a waste product that has to be paid for by taxpayers.
 
Fear not, with the number of meth-heads we have in this country, they can steal enough copper in no time to jumpstart the industry...
 
Well Ding Ding Ding. Finally someone brings up the copper wall!

Good for you Bee!

I don't read every post in this thread. So perhaps it's been brought up. But I have yet to see all these pro EV fanboys address the fact that there is no way EVs can become the primary means of transport if you can't build them due to material shortages. Copper is finite. There isn't enough mined that can hope to build the number of EVs required to become a large segment.

Even when they work out the math and realize that, it takes about a decade to mine new copper.

And that's assuming they can discover enough new deposits.

I'm pretty sure Elon, Ford, etc know this. They just want to pick the consumers pockets and suck up any govt subsidies they can, until the wall is in sight. And then when everyone else sees it, ker pift, they have moved on to the next train robbery.

And then EVs become a waste product that has to be paid for by taxpayers.
I was speaking to a person who is an engineer with our hydro utility company and he was saying there would have to be significant upgrades to the delivery system in order to meet the demand EV would bring......he was saying the size of the current lines are too small to carry the load.

He mentioned the real issue would be upgrading lines in the major cities as there would have to be a lot of digging as many lines are buried....

He spoke on our own area and said there is enough power coming to the region due to closed factories but the distribution grid isn't robust enough...
 
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