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I wonder what the tipping point towards an open revolt will be?

It seems that governments are not in touch with their populace....not even a little....

EVs are building up on lots around here so much that dealers are parking them in the back to make room for vehicles that are selling.....

They don't know what to do with them as the companies don't want them back....
I was just talking to the son who traveled with his mom on a medical transport. New to the area. He had quite a spread they lived on. You could tell it was a fairly recent build/remodel.

They moved here from Mass. I asked him why the move here. Quite a big difference.

It came down to a few things. One of which was property taxes. They are 90% less here than there.

And nobody is getting into everyone's business here was another.
 
I wonder what the tipping point towards an open revolt will be?

It seems that governments are not in touch with their populace....not even a little....

EVs are building up on lots around here so much that dealers are parking them in the back to make room for vehicles that are selling.....

They don't know what to do with them as the companies don't want them back....
Hi. Well AOC and Mïth are the smartest people in the world. Thank goodness they are all green. They will save the world from Busa bikes too.
 
I just saw a recycling piece done. It was not on Lithium. It was about recycling of precious metals. Pretty staggering.

The first staggering part. A ton of discarded phones has more gold in it than a ton of ore mined from the gold mines.

And sends tons of pollutants into the air and water.

The next staggering part was the mountains and mountains of the discarded consumer items.

Here are the criticisms they had. Which I agree with. We can use the phone as an example. You can't just pop in a new battery now. When they lose their lives, it's usually 2ish years. You can pay about $200 to have it replaced. Or you can trade it in for a new device for nothing out of pocket.

So now we have mountains of them to deal with. For a failed battery.

Same thing with TVs. They are throw away items now. Mountains of them.
 
With a waiting list approaching 5 years, will be interesting to see if the enthusiasm lasts.

Yes agreed. But it seems silly to get on a 5 year wait for something that will surely be out of date well before that. Is there a technology evolution guarantee in the waiting list fine print?
 
I guess when someone has that much wealth, they can afford to have no filter.
Haha, We'll see. The US has allowed Elon to be a big part of our defense system, specifically in space. You would have to think anything Elon knows at least some of our enemies will have access to. Interesting dilemma. As tensions grow with authoritarian nations, they will have to cut Elon off. But we'll see whether Elon is a strategic genius or a broken clock that was right with the Tesla. Given his latest anti-democratic leanings, we better hope it is the latter.
 
I have great espect for Bee, and I will say this, he has a very assertive way of expressing himself, possibly because of his career. My career consisted of 45 years, 50 hours of week in the automotive repair industry including a lot of training and keeping up to date with periodicals in a very fast changing field. The extent of electronics involved in operating an internal combustion engine and transmission, even the differential, is astonishing. The carbon footprint of producing an EV has been talked about quite a bit, but is minute compared to the volume of pollutants that come out of an ICE tailpipe over thousands and thousands of miles. It's not even minutely close. We as motorcyclists are quite aware of the oily streak in the middle of roads; multiply that by millions of miles and tell me what that does to the environment. An insurance industry ( and they difinitely have interest) study shows that and ICE vehicle is almost 10 times as likely to catch fire as an EV. The only argument against is infrastructure and price, and both are being addressed. Bee, I'm sure you'll have a retort in mind but unless I try to teach you about the military, I wish you wouldn't :laugh:
 
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I have great espect for Bee, and I will say this, he has a very assertive way of expressing himself, possibly because of his career. My career consisted of 45 years, 50 hours of week in the automotive repair industry including a lot of training and keeping up to date with periodicals in a very fast changing field. The extent of electronics involved in operating an internal combustion engine and transmission, even the differential, is astonishing. The carbon footprint of producing an EV has been talked about quite a bit, but is minute compared to the volume of pollutants that come out of an ICE tailpipe over thousands and thousands of miles. It's not even minutely close. We as motorcyclists are quite aware of the oily streak in the middle of roads; multiply that by millions of miles and tell me what that does to the environment. An insurance industry ( and they difinitely have interest) study shows that and ICE vehicle is almost 10 times as likely to catch fire as an EV. The only argument against is infrastructure and price, and both are being addressed. Bee, I'm sure you'll have a retort in mind but unless I try to teach you about the military, I wish you wouldn't :laugh:
Nope, I'll just sit back and watch.....my former profession taught me patience.
 
I have great espect for Bee, and I will say this, he has a very assertive way of expressing himself, possibly because of his career. My career consisted of 45 years, 50 hours of week in the automotive repair industry including a lot of training and keeping up to date with periodicals in a very fast changing field. The extent of electronics involved in operating an internal combustion engine and transmission, even the differential, is astonishing. The carbon footprint of producing an EV has been talked about quite a bit, but is minute compared to the volume of pollutants that come out of an ICE tailpipe over thousands and thousands of miles. It's not even minutely close. We as motorcyclists are quite aware of the oily streak in the middle of roads; multiply that by millions of miles and tell me what that does to the environment. An insurance industry ( and they difinitely have interest) study shows that and ICE vehicle is almost 10 times as likely to catch fire as an EV. The only argument against is infrastructure and price, and both are being addressed. Bee, I'm sure you'll have a retort in mind but unless I try to teach you about the military, I wish you wouldn't :laugh:
Interesting.
When I was 16, I was fixing the whole neighborhoods motorcycles. So naturally after school I did an apprenticeship with Mercedes Benz. Later, they put me through college and I ended up doing a lot of stuff after graduating. From tech training, to design, to testing, and developing local country suppliers outside of Germany. It didn’t last though, money talks, I left and jumped into heavy industry, got my PE.

I retired 2016 from running five plants US, one Canada, one Mexico, one in Germany and one in Australia.

Running a plant doing $11,000 in sales value per minute of output was fun, but make a small mistake and $250,000 goes down the drain in a few minutes.

I missed the automotive world though, best job I ever had.
 
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I missed the automotive world though, best job I ever had.
I worked in GM dealerships most of my life but as the drivetrain went corporate rather than specific between the divisions I fell out of love with the product. At least the Corvette still stands out as fairly unique. I originally started with a Pontiac dealer in the 70’s. Mercedes has always been my passion. The amount of engineering makes them tough to work on but when they’re right the combination of luxury and performance is hard to beat. I expect they will give Tesla a run in the EV sector as things evolve.
 
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Sometimes it's hard for me to sit down and shut up when I read things like this:

If it wasn't written from information from Consumer Reports I wouldn't put much faith in it.

EDITORIAL: Electric vehicles? Let the buyer beware​



 
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Doesn't change the effect of driving a gas powered polluter. Interest rates make people count pennies when spending. Regardless, lobbying to continue to exhaust a finite, non renewable energy source that even though we won't in our lives see depleted is basically not caring about how future generations will cope with transportation. Bio diesel is an option that will in my opinion go the way of steam power when compared to other means of powering vevicles. This is a crucial time in our existence that we can use to forward, through trial and error through consumption, better, long lasting energy sources. Be it electic or hydrogen, it's inevitable. I have no grandkids and therefore no great grandkids on the horizon, but I choose to care.
 
Doesn't change the effect of driving a gas powered polluter. Interest rates make people count pennies when spending. Regardless, lobbying to continue to exhaust a finite, non renewable energy source that even though we won't in our lives see depleted is basically not caring about how future generations will cope with transportation. Bio diesel is an option that will in my opinion go the way of steam power when compared to other means of powering vevicles. This is a crucial time in our existence that we can use to forward, through trial and error through consumption, better, long lasting energy sources. Be it electic or hydrogen, it's inevitable. I have no grandkids and therefore no great grandkids on the horizon, but I choose to care.
Even though we have danced this dance before.....

EVs are polluters as well as they still need both fuels, materials and non-renewable resources to both fabricate and power them...

There isn't a whole lot of difference between them other than the generated hype that EV are the end-all of end-alls....

Every power source to charge EV has it's draw-back because wind and solar both need energy storage which is normally some sort of battery, nuclear is clean until you have to try and store nuclear waste somewhere....

What is the answer? Do we completely change the way we live and move more people into a tighter urban environment and eliminate rural living?

Urban sprawl in itself has created a huge monster...if there weren't countless people commuting back and forth to their work places, there'd be a lot fewer vehicles on the road....the pandemic taught us that at least......look at how airborne pollution dropped.
 
LOL, you can’t make this stuff up.

Dude, that's classic! Some marketing guy just became a legend and probably got a huge raise and went out and bought that 911 he always wanted. The funny thing is the Cyber Truck probably ran out of juice and had to be towed back to the pits and someone drove the 911 home. Haha!
 
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