Gen3 - couldn't be more disappointed

[Bumblebee]

A good friend of mine who has been riding bikes for a long time and I were talking about the gen 3 Hayabusa last night and what he said makes sense....(for once).

He said how many vehicles came out into another generation yet the engine hasn't changed...GM and their 5.3, Ford and the 5.0, Ram and the 5.7 for instance. He said he is on his 3rd Ram with basically the same engine and it never bothered him one bit that the engine is the same.

That made sense to me and a light bulb clicked in my brain....is the Hayabusa engine or the bike for that matter completely different between the gen 1 and 2?

The gen 2 was improved on and now the gen 3 has been improved over the gen 2. We all wanted a street shredding monster but Suzuki probably saw very little market for such a bike as it would be expensive and hard to ride for the average rider.

They also know the aftermarket will be on fire and those who want more power can get it, the same as the other generation bikes.

 

[fallenarch]

Well, the Gen 2 engine is pretty different than the gen 1 engine - more displacement and more power. It's the same basic configuration but evolved. Looks like the Gen 3 has only evolved from a Euro 5 perspective so not sure about that. The smaller throttle bodies and Euro 5's more aggressive guards against disabling the emissions are scary - it remains to be seen if any shop can do the pipe and tune thing on it.

But it looks like Suzuki made the right call as reports are the bike is selling very well. I think we all assumed we were Suzuki's main audience but it looks like Suzuki was looking primarily at the new Busa buyer.

 

[Bumblebee]

Well, the Gen 2 engine is pretty different than the gen 1 engine - more displacement and more power. It's the same basic configuration but evolved. Looks like the Gen 3 has only evolved from a Euro 5 perspective so not sure about that. The smaller throttle bodies and Euro 5's more aggressive guards against disabling the emissions are scary - it remains to be seen if any shop can do the pipe and tune thing on it.

But it looks like Suzuki made the right call as reports are the bike is selling very well. I think we all assumed we were Suzuki's main audience but it looks like Suzuki was looking primarily at the new Busa buyer.

Very true although it seems there are quite a few on this very forum purchasing the latest rendition...

It will indeed be interesting to see what the tuners can do but I am confident they will get this thing dialed in.

Both the gen 1 and gen 2 were nothing spectacular in stock form. Even with the '99/'00 models being unrestricted they had lots of other issues to contend with.

 

[CBXRider]

...”Both the gen 1 and gen 2 were nothing spectacular in stock form. Even with the '99/'00 models being unrestricted they had lots of other issues to contend with.”

Wha? Such as?

 

[busabobh]

Reminds me of the 1970’s, and the death of the muscle cars.

 

[Jza]

Very true although it seems there are quite a few on this very forum purchasing the latest rendition...

It will indeed be interesting to see what the tuners can do but I am confident they will get this thing dialed in.

Both the gen 1 and gen 2 were nothing spectacular in stock form. Even with the '99/'00 models being unrestricted they had lots of other issues to contend with.

I swear you must work for Suzuki.... lol

 

[mark3evo]

I swear you must work for Suzuki.... lol

 

[Red05]

Suzuki went the alternate route with the new Busa. Away from performance and upgraded everything else. All they did was use tech from other bikes in their lineup and apply it. Surprised they didn't make it more of a touring bike with bags and taller windscreen..

If they had I’d probably be ordering one.

 

[Bumblebee]

...”Both the gen 1 and gen 2 were nothing spectacular in stock form. Even with the '99/'00 models being unrestricted they had lots of other issues to contend with.”

Wha? Such as?

Brakes, suspension, electrical gremlins, the early fuel pumps, etc...

 

[jellyrug]

Well, the Gen 2 engine is pretty different than the gen 1 engine - more displacement and more power. It's the same basic configuration but evolved. Looks like the Gen 3 has only evolved from a Euro 5 perspective so not sure about that. The smaller throttle bodies and Euro 5's more aggressive guards against disabling the emissions are scary - it remains to be seen if any shop can do the pipe and tune thing on it.

But it looks like Suzuki made the right call as reports are the bike is selling very well. I think we all assumed we were Suzuki's main audience but it looks like Suzuki was looking primarily at the new Busa buyer.

Interesting, looks as if the Gen3 has inspired a big rise in used Busa prices.

https://www.cycletrader.com/Suzuki-Hayabusa/motorcycles-for-sale?make=SUZUKI%7C2320128&model=HAYABUSA%7C764861145

 

[fallenarch]

Interesting, looks as if the Gen3 has inspired a big rise in used Busa prices.

https://www.cycletrader.com/Suzuki-Hayabusa/motorcycles-for-sale?make=SUZUKI%7C2320128&model=HAYABUSA%7C764861145

Wow, those prices are amazing!

 

[CBXRider]

Sure looks like the new one is being marketed as a 2022...released in February 2021.

So what happened to the 2021 model?

 

[Telboy2000]

I don't think it can be from what I've read.

All gadgets including ABS have been given an Off setting so the bike can be raw or 100% nanny mode.
I had similar toys on an Aprilia RSV4 APRC and they do come in handy... At least in the UK when 80% of the year there's a chance of the roads being wet or greasy.
Never thought I'd like linked brakes until I had a VFR hire bike... 2up emergency stop in the wet and for once the pillion wasn't breaking my back... Bike remainded fairly level and I never got any hint of handlebar shake from the tyre trying to wash out.
I do however like that it can be disabled.... Unlike a VFR

 

[prg]

Brakes, suspension, electrical gremlins, the early fuel pumps, etc...

Not forgetting the cam chain tensioner

 

[Bumblebee]

All gadgets including ABS have been given an Off setting so the bike can be raw or 100% nanny mode.
I had similar toys on an Aprilia RSV4 APRC and they do come in handy... At least in the UK when 80% of the year there's a chance of the roads being wet or greasy.
Never thought I'd like linked brakes until I had a VFR hire bike... 2up emergency stop in the wet and for once the pillion wasn't breaking my back... Bike remainded fairly level and I never got any hint of handlebar shake from the tyre trying to wash out.
I do however like that it can be disabled.... Unlike a VFR

I don't know if the linked brakes can be shut off though unless they are electrically linked...

Time will soon tell.

 

[Quiksilver]

I don't know if the linked brakes can be shut off though unless they are electrically linked...

Time will soon tell.

I've never ridden a bike with linked brakes but it sounds like a good idea., If it can be toggled.

 

[Bumblebee]

I've never ridden a bike with linked brakes but it sounds like a good idea., If it can be toggled.

I haven't either, I reckon they would be efficient for shorter stopping distances.

 

[hayabuser]

Sure looks like the new one is being marketed as a 2022...released in February 2021.

So what happened to the 2021 model?

Same thing that happened to the 2011 Hayabusa (in the USA, anyway)... and the 1983 Corvette... and the 1996 Jeep Wrangler.

Sometimes there just isn't one.

 

[Tetsuo1000]

I haven't either, I reckon they would be efficient for shorter stopping distances.

My old super black bird had linked brakes. Felt good for street riding, I liked it.
Now this is a new topic but Gen 3 has set the stage for Honda to come out with a killer new black bird product that blows team green away too, wouldn’t that be something.

 

[prg]

My old super black bird had linked brakes. Felt good for street riding, I liked it.
Now this is a new topic but Gen 3 has set the stage for Honda to come out with a killer new black bird product that blows team green away too, wouldn’t that be something.

They are.
An Africa Twin with a bigger fairing
That will be their Sports Tourer.
Now that's something you could be really disappointed about.