dudewizr
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got myself in some trouble, how bout some advice?
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I'm not going to expound on the fact and reiterate what everyone else has already said. You asked what can you do? Well, NOT MUCH!!! You tried to evade authorities (that's already a misdemeanor). And you'll definitely get reckless endangerment to not only you but for endangering your passenger's life. You could get legal representation but I HIGHLY DOUBT THE JUDGE WILL GO LIGHT. Expect to see your license taken away for good and some jail time. sorry but that's what you get when you ride irresponsibly especially with a passenger. I suggest you NEVER GET ON A MOTORCYCLE AGAIN. You need to grow up first.
Actually Mr. Brown I have used many of these actions that cops have taken to stop me and friends against them before and it works. So I'm not the ignorant one. Traffic violations are easy to get out of, serious crimes are not, because those are the things that can cause hell for others. I'll be the first to admit that it crime doesn't pay.
I don't really care what the rest of you think of me or BH402, for that is one of the reasons I own a Busa. If I gave a #### about what others thought about me I would be on a Gixxer1K. Almost everyone around here calls Busas pigs, so we're not the most popular riders. I also get sick of every R1 or ZX-10 that wants to race as they pass me on the interstate, but do I fall for it, NO! I'm sure most of you older guys have some sort of pride that would make you race, yet you think you're no more guilty than BH402.
As for me caring about the bike being in impound, hell yeah I care. The man paid $11,000 for a bike, it doesn't need to be mistreated by some envious lot boy. I'm materialistic, I admit it. If I wasn't I would be rolling around on a Ninja 250. So stop calling the man out for all Busa riders are guilty of something like this for that is the type of person who rides a Busa. If you say you don't then you're either lying or just a poser is just wants the right to say you own a Busa to impress others.
I've met some jokers like that. The ones that own older Busas with less than 2,000 miles who just bought a Busa for bragging rights but don't ride. I'm sure there are a few like that on this board. For the most part though there are alot of great people on this board, that's one reason I even bought a Busa. So I think that most have been pretty decent to BH402. For the people who think they are judges and want to lecture, they just have something to prove or wish to show their arrogance. Remember you may judge someone's actions but you may never judge someone for that is God's job.
Not judging. Stating fact.
If your friend would have came on here with a humble attitude and just say "I fugged up, and man did I make some bad decisions, especially with a passenger"
I don’t think I would have even said anything.
My point for jumping on this was to try and drive the point home. He doesn’t seem to be remorseful, which means he has the potential to do it again, which means he has the potential to kill himself and others.
You as his friend should be chewing his but. If it were my friend and someone I cared about, I would.
I don’t even know this guy and I took the time to kind of chew on him because I do care. No body wants to see anyone killed.
if you friend doesn’t change his attitude that might be his future.
But I guess that is just the way I am. I will kick a friends but to get his car keys from him if he is drunk. Almost had to do it once, but he finally backed off.
I would rather risk my friendship and possibly save my friends life that "not want to interfere in a bro's business"
and as far as accepting responsibility for your actions? that is the difference between boys and men.
A boy will try to blame everyone else. I man steps up to the plate, admits when he is wrong and takes what he has coming. That is "part" of what being a man is about. accepting responsibility for you actions not trying to weasel your way out of something you did.
If BH402 really is a friend of yours and someone you care about, you might want to think about his actions.
But heck, I am 43 years old. Maybe my idea of friendship is totally different than yours
And maybe the value I place on the life of someone I am responsible for (such as a passenger) is a little more than your friends.
So if you don’t have any regard for your friends and your friend has no regard for another’s life, then please forgive my ranting, I apparently live in a different world than you do and I don’t think we would ever see eye to eye on the subject
Keep the rubber side down..
I don't know where to start with this one.
My Favorite:
"Almost everyone around here calls Busas pigs, so we're not the most popular riders."
Dude, that big thing behind the trees is the forest. Maybe they don't like you because you ride like an asshat.
What pisses me off the most:
"Remember you may judge someone's actions but you may never judge someone for that is God's job."
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are pretty good it's not a bowl of cornflakes. Damn skippy I'll judge this asshat - the girl on the back could have been some one I know or love. Or the cop. Or the old lady he scared the sh!t out of railing by trying to outrun the cops. I don't see any extenuating circumstances. I don't see any fascist cops. All I see is an asshat crying about his punishment instead of his crime. Fact of the matter is, there are probably a whole new bunch of people who think _all_ bikers are all brain-dead, asocial asshats like you and your "bro" BH402. Including me, and that pisses me off.
Bottom line:
I got 10$ says Slithor is next - dead, down or busted. (or some combination).
Damn squids.
(Of course, I've only got 10k klicks worth of twisties in the last 9 months in a country where it rains, snows or freezes practically every other friggin day - yep, I'm just an arrogant poser with an agenda... and delusions of godhood)
What a tool.
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Man you are so full of sh!t!!!! I never bought my busa to do that kinda crap. Yes I race, but I do it at the track. You know a controled environment where I don't put other people's lives in danger. I also ride the bike to work about weekly, so don't give me this crap about that's why people buy these bikes. And the age thing doesn't come into play for me either as I am only 22 and hopefully have a lot of years left. I hate people like you that give sports bike riders a bad name. I hope you become "bubba's" little ##### in jail. I hope they take your bike and your license for life. You don't need to ever be on the road again. And hopefully you never have kids to pass on your dumb a$$ genes.
I agree...soap opera goin on here.....
It's like a train wreck...I'll take some, thank you...soap opera goin on here.....
I love the guys who lose their temper over reading my post. I mean seriously, if reading my typing effects you that much, I couldn't imagine what you would do if you caught your girlfriend or wife screwing the neighbor. Geez, let's calm down people. By the way, I know for a fact that you don't just speed at the track on the Busa. I'm sure you're taken it over a 100 a time or two on the streets. If you haven't then you must not really own one.
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You have completely missed the point. You can spin this any way you want. The fact is, he ran from the cops with an unwilling passenger. You cannot defend that.
si-lo
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Oh yeah, I have gone 100+ on the road. Specifically 109, according to the radar. Yes cop caught me. As soon as I saw him he hit his lights, there was too much traffic ahead to gun it so I pulled over and waited for him. I had my helmet off and was getting my paperwork out when he pulled up. He wrote me the ticket but only for 80 in a 65. He thanked me for not making him chase me, and while I did have to pay a fine I didn't get any jail time and I got to keep my bike and my life. When I went before the judge he told me if I didn't get another ticket for one year this would not go on my record. Please make note, I was going 44mph above the speed limit and because I pulled over he cut me a break. So from now on, I will just pull over. Of course I don't go that fast anymore. I think 10-15 over is about all I will do on the interstate. FYI this is the only ticket I recieved during the 5 years I have owned my Busa, I have been pulled over 3 other times and let off with a warning. I guess I grew up and decided to take responsibility for my actions.
Mr Brown
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WTF is your first sentence about? It makes no sense. How do you figure what your boy did is a traffic violation? If it were, he wouldn't have been arrested
Here's the deal, assclown: I've run from the Cops on many occasions, been caught once. I have never, nor will I ever run with a passenger on the back. Do I think that Cops are jerks for doing their job? Of course not. I've said it before on this board, If you're gonna run, you better be comitted. If the Cop wrecks do I bear some of the responsibility? Absolutely. I chose to run, he chose to pursue, we are both responsible for the consequences of our decisions. I will race on the track, or on the street, don't matter to me, however I will not knowingly put someone else's life in danger. This means that no, I will not run you when you pull up next to me in the middle of town, in traffic reving your engine. There are plenty of open straight roads where the only people in danger are me and you. I own an older Busa, with less than 10k on it, so now all of a sudden I bought it for bragging rights? You know nothing.
You bought the Busa cuz you're materialistic? Sounds like you are also stupid. The point is your boy's bike wouldn't have been in the f@#kin impound if he hadn't been riding like an a$$hole, get it?
I'm not judging anyone, just commenting on his actions and your response.
Mr Brown
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Who do you think lost their temper? Certainly not me, I hope. It takes way more than some moron I don't even know, typing ignorant responses to the description of his friend's stupid act to upset me.
BH402,
I would not give you any crap about what you did, if you hadn't written the post the way you did. Just from the post you wrote, everyone can see these problems;
That you ran with a passenger, you consider a screaming/terrified passenger a distraction to your evasion of the police, you think the police are endangering motorcyclists who flee, you think running from the cops is a Traffic Violation, and you think you should continue to ride a motorcycle tomorrow.
The cop let you off easy, you could have been charged with attempted manslaughter plus more.
Take Thrasherfox's advice, hopefully you can learn from this. Realize its not your right to ride a bike, or even drive a car. If you can't control your impulses, put off riding until you can.
I hope you realize that if you had pulled over, the cop may have left you alone and pursued your buddy. Cut you a break for pulling over immediately. The worse would have been a speeding ticket...
Sithor,
You seem to think its wrong for the police to pursue evading motorcycles. Why?? Because you want to do what you want when you want?...
Also, I doubt you could find one regular member here who runs from the cops with a passenger! You're comparaing apples to oranges when you compare my speeding on an empty highway to your buddy running from the cops with a terrified/screaming girl on the back!
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I would not give you any crap about what you did, if you hadn't written the post the way you did. Just from the post you wrote, everyone can see these problems;
That you ran with a passenger, you consider a screaming/terrified passenger a distraction to your evasion of the police, you think the police are endangering motorcyclists who flee, you think running from the cops is a Traffic Violation, and you think you should continue to ride a motorcycle tomorrow.
The cop let you off easy, you could have been charged with attempted manslaughter plus more.
Take Thrasherfox's advice, hopefully you can learn from this. Realize its not your right to ride a bike, or even drive a car. If you can't control your impulses, put off riding until you can.
I hope you realize that if you had pulled over, the cop may have left you alone and pursued your buddy. Cut you a break for pulling over immediately. The worse would have been a speeding ticket...
Sithor,
You seem to think its wrong for the police to pursue evading motorcycles. Why?? Because you want to do what you want when you want?...
Also, I doubt you could find one regular member here who runs from the cops with a passenger! You're comparaing apples to oranges when you compare my speeding on an empty highway to your buddy running from the cops with a terrified/screaming girl on the back!
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BusaHaya402: Not that I agree that what you did was right or wrong. But the bottom line is: You got caught. You tried to run, but you still got caught. Now, not saying that you shouldn't "pay since you played", but don't want you to be railed by the system when you don't have to.
Some of you may disagree with me, but let's face it, our American Justice system IS made up of who's got the better mouth-piece lawyer as representation in court.
Step 1: Get yourself a good, lawyer, but more importantly, a lawyer that will look out for you in your best interest while being realistic. If he/she gives you a scolding for more than that one meeting, DROP that lawyer and move to the next one. I don't care if it's Johnny Cochran, if he/she does that, then that lawyer will do you more harm than good because you've really just hired someone to prosecute you. And the state's already go someone to do that to you, he/she's called the prosecuter.
Step 2: That lawyer will tell you what you're really facing, and will let you know what he/she will TRY to do FOR YOU. He/She may go to the DA's office and your probation officer to ask for a break in exchange for any combination of the following: Community Service/Labor, extended probation, fine, 1 year suspended motorcycle license, 6 months provisional driving license (usually to and from work). If the DA is really tough, your lawyer may up the offer a bit: weekend jail, house arrest, or shorter jail time with combined community service, etc....
Step 3: Someone mention selling your bike to show that you're sorry. Not a bad idea. If you truely want to convince the DA, your probation officer, and maybe the judge, you would do this BEFORE your lawyer goes to the DA pleading for you to stay out of jail for 7 months. Better yet, if you can afford it, sell the bike and donate half of the money you get to some local charity, like a humane society or something. Keep the receipts for your lawyer to show to the DA and your probation officer, and maybe the judge. This is to show good faith in your part of them, and it may make you look like you're sorry (hoping you really are).
You might be saying:
I don't want to do community service on the weekends when I could be riding!
I hell of won't sell my bike either and giving half the money to charity is out of the question.
But you need to ask yourself:
What can I do with my weekends in jail for the next 7 months? Hmmm, maybe play domino with Bubba? Or worst yet, hide the sausage with Bubba?
I wonder if my bike will start 7 months from now after I'm out of jail? I wonder if my job will be waiting for me after I get out of jail in 7 months. How much do I still owe on that bike? How much money I lost on making because I was in jail for 7 months instead of earning it at my job?
Good luck, just seriously learn from it.
By the way, was that girl on the back your GF? If she was, is she still?
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Some of you may disagree with me, but let's face it, our American Justice system IS made up of who's got the better mouth-piece lawyer as representation in court.
Step 1: Get yourself a good, lawyer, but more importantly, a lawyer that will look out for you in your best interest while being realistic. If he/she gives you a scolding for more than that one meeting, DROP that lawyer and move to the next one. I don't care if it's Johnny Cochran, if he/she does that, then that lawyer will do you more harm than good because you've really just hired someone to prosecute you. And the state's already go someone to do that to you, he/she's called the prosecuter.
Step 2: That lawyer will tell you what you're really facing, and will let you know what he/she will TRY to do FOR YOU. He/She may go to the DA's office and your probation officer to ask for a break in exchange for any combination of the following: Community Service/Labor, extended probation, fine, 1 year suspended motorcycle license, 6 months provisional driving license (usually to and from work). If the DA is really tough, your lawyer may up the offer a bit: weekend jail, house arrest, or shorter jail time with combined community service, etc....
Step 3: Someone mention selling your bike to show that you're sorry. Not a bad idea. If you truely want to convince the DA, your probation officer, and maybe the judge, you would do this BEFORE your lawyer goes to the DA pleading for you to stay out of jail for 7 months. Better yet, if you can afford it, sell the bike and donate half of the money you get to some local charity, like a humane society or something. Keep the receipts for your lawyer to show to the DA and your probation officer, and maybe the judge. This is to show good faith in your part of them, and it may make you look like you're sorry (hoping you really are).
You might be saying:
I don't want to do community service on the weekends when I could be riding!
I hell of won't sell my bike either and giving half the money to charity is out of the question.
But you need to ask yourself:
What can I do with my weekends in jail for the next 7 months? Hmmm, maybe play domino with Bubba? Or worst yet, hide the sausage with Bubba?
I wonder if my bike will start 7 months from now after I'm out of jail? I wonder if my job will be waiting for me after I get out of jail in 7 months. How much do I still owe on that bike? How much money I lost on making because I was in jail for 7 months instead of earning it at my job?
Good luck, just seriously learn from it.
By the way, was that girl on the back your GF? If she was, is she still?
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