GUN CONTROL........ hahaha

[SuedePflow]

Require training and insurance for gun ownership.

I like the idea of encouraging training. But to make it a requirement, you'd also have to make it free of charge. Because you cannot cost a right out of reach of some citizens. And then if it's free (free to the trainee) training, the next question would be how to fund the program...

I don't get how your right to have a gun is more important than my right to not be hurt by your weapon.

Those two rights exist concurrently. I'm not aware of one trumping the other, and I also don't understand your fear of being hurt by legal gun ownership. Have you experienced an issue with it in the past?

 

[RedBull]

I did not
know that . . .

He needs
to tell them
to quit blocking
conservative videos .

 

[08BusaKY]

I don't watch anything from CNN...

 

[greg3852]

There are so many factors that come into play that the numbers listed here are nonsense. They are making it seem like cops pull up while people are standing there and jump out and shoot blacks more than whites. Every single shooting is different. No way can you lump them into a statistic.

 

[shade]

Of course all of these rationalizations are a smoke screen. I think people are arming themselves for the end of the world (figuratively speaking) and nothing is going to stop them.

Yeah so...as long as they arent hurting anyone why should anyone care

 

[RedBull]

Yeah so . . .

As long as
they are not
hurting anyone
why should
anyone care ?

 

[fallenarch]

Yeah so...as long as they arent hurting anyone why should anyone care

1. Las Vegas Shooting 58 killed
2. Orlando Nightclub 49 killed
3. VA Tech 39 Killed
4. Sandy Hook 29 killed
5. Sutherland Springs Church 26 Killed

 

[shade]

1. Las Vegas Shooting 58 killed
2. Orlando Nightclub 49 killed
3. VA Tech 39 Killed
4. Sandy Hook 29 killed
5. Sutherland Springs Church 26 Killed

Nope...as you stated earlier mentally ill and criminals will always get weapons no matter what...I'm talking about law abiding citizens.

 

[fallenarch]

Nope...as you stated earlier mentally ill and criminals will always get weapons no matter what...I'm talking about law abiding citizens.

I did not state that (or did not mean to). I think most criminals can be kept from guns so that a perp with a gun will be rare. Besides, what is a law abiding citizen?

 

[RedBull]

I did not state that
( or did not mean to ) .

I think most criminals
can be kept from guns
so that a perpetrator
with a gun will be rare .

Besides ,
what is a
law abiding
citizen ? ? ?

 

[shade]

I did not state that (or did not mean to). I think most criminals can be kept from guns so that a perp with a gun will be rare. Besides, what is a law abiding citizen?

The government also thought it could keep people away from drugs, hence the 40 year losing war and billions spent. Trying to keep guns away from people isn't going to be any better. There will always be a thriving black market.
I'm for more background checks on the mentally unstable and criminals to reduce guns being the wrong peoples hands.
Law abiding citizen is real simple. Someone with a clean record.
Why are you trying to make the issue more complicated than it should be?

 

[RedBull]

The government
also thought it could
keep people away from drugs ,
hence the 40 year losing war and billions spent .

Trying to keep guns away
from people is not going
to be any better . . .

There will always be a thriving black market .

I am for more background checks
on the mentally unstable and criminals
to reduce guns being the wrong peoples hands .

Law abiding citizen is real simple .

Someone with a clean record .

Why are you trying to make the issue
more complicated than it should be ?

 

[greg3852]

I did not state that (or did not mean to). I think most criminals can be kept from guns so that a perp with a gun will be rare. Besides, what is a law abiding citizen?

Never in a million years. Criminals by definition will do whatever it takes to get guns. Know how they get most of them now? Breaking into houses.

I’m a law abiding citizen. I follow the law. I enjoy shooting my guns. Why shouldn’t I have them?

 

[piratediverjefff]

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/06/kn...a-requirement-for-gun-grabbers/#axzz5ksezrauU

 

[piratediverjefff]

 

[ali123]

I have been following this thread, biting my tongue and keeping quiet.
But to say that guns do not need to be tightly regulated is hard to understand based on the current statistics.
Whilst I understand the rights of ownership and freedom, I also respect the rights of others to live and exist without the fear or threat of being shot by Mr or Mrs John Citizen. Law enforcement personnel is a totally different matter, (although even then is clouded by bad examples of the said personnel)

To say that regulation is not required and it's societies fault, (mental illness, bad attitude, or just bad people) without looking at the bigger picture is blind denial.

I am happy to admit I do not understand the gun culture in the USA.
I do not understand the rationale of Mr Citizen being able to walk down a public street with a handgun concealed on his person.
I do not understand the need for semi-assault style rifles being made available to Mr Citizen

And to add final, up until 2 years ago, I was a competitive shooter in 12 gauge with quite a few trophies.
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we have the right to bear arms... its to protect us from a tyrannical govt and our families.... in congested cities its nice to have a weapon

1. Las Vegas Shooting 58 killed
2. Orlando Nightclub 49 killed
3. VA Tech 39 Killed
4. Sandy Hook 29 killed
5. Sutherland Springs Church 26 Killed

ALLLLLL CRIMINALS... SICK CRIMINALS, if it wasn't a gun it would have been a grenade... and arch.... spend a couple months lving IN OR around low income/ housing projects... u would SEEEEE the need for a weapon.

 

[piratediverjefff]

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/04/ma..._6f6fac3eaa-0e65777c26-21572239#axzz5ksezrauU

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/04/gu..._6f6fac3eaa-0e65777c26-21572239#axzz5ksezrauU

 

[Mr Brown]

Never in a million years. Criminals by definition will do whatever it takes to get guns. Know how they get most of them now? Breaking into houses.

I’m a law abiding citizen. I follow the law. I enjoy shooting my guns. Why shouldn’t I have them?

The flaw in the logic of the first statement is that by that reasoning, if there weren't guns in most houses criminals wouldn't be able to get them.
To your second point, if it became illegal to have guns, would you then stop owning guns or stop being a law abiding citizen? Because if you're willing to do something illegal simply because you don't like the law, any law anyone doesn't like then becomes irrelevant. You can see the problems with that. Hell, you deal with the consequences of that every time you work!
I'm not saying this for any other reason than to point out the flawed logic, and such arguments are incredibly common on both sides of this particular discussion.

 

[faseljd]

If you outlawed guns and all citizens gave theirs up then they would just pour across our southern border at breakneck speeds and superfluous volumes to arm all the criminals that wanted them. Sorta like the unrestricted flow of drugs coming over now.

 

[Mr Brown]

If you outlawed guns and all citizens gave theirs up then they would just pour across our southern border at breakneck speeds and superfluous volumes to arm all the criminals that wanted them. Sorta like the unrestricted flow of drugs coming over now.

It's not just the southern border, but you already know that.
But yes, they would.