Good story, thanks for sharing~!~
Heck, you're my age....
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I fully agree with both aspects of this discussion. I TAKE ISSUE with taking a whole group and pidgeonholing them into one negative stereotype. "Harley riders are fat neo nazi beer guzzlers", Democrats are liberal pacifist commies", Southerners are rednecks", Cops are revenue generators". It is shortsighted, oversimplistic and inaccurate to say that stuff THEREFORE subsequent discussion grows from a false premise.
As soon as one participant throws the name calling/mean spirited stuff out there, the nature and quality of the discussion is compromised.
And suzuki4life, "Wow somebody else gets it" is an example of, "I have all the answers and everyone else just doesn't get it". That's not the road to an intelligent conversation, that's a mindless insult. It seems you have difficulty seeing the world from another's perspective. Raydog
As soon as one participant throws the name calling/mean spirited stuff out there, the nature and quality of the discussion is compromised.
And suzuki4life, "Wow somebody else gets it" is an example of, "I have all the answers and everyone else just doesn't get it". That's not the road to an intelligent conversation, that's a mindless insult. It seems you have difficulty seeing the world from another's perspective. Raydog
I don't think LEOs are revenue generators. Particular Laws (like speed requlation) are designed to generate revenue. This applies to almost every law designed to regulate our behavior where there is no victim. The LEOs are just doing their job and should not be looked down upon for doing so. However one has to wonder if this officer was doing his job?
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Maybe the LEO thought he had better tools at his disposal than the iron club of a ticket and jail time. He sized up the situation and made a judgment. Hopefully, the right lesson was learned, but maybe some of you would have taken away a different lesson.
suzuki4life
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I guess the problem here is that I did not take focus on all cops...I focused on one that didn't do the job you claim he should have. He witnessed a substantial infraction and turned a blind eye which not only cost the government cash but also placed public safety at risk. Basically he chose to not do his job...I have a problem with that.
Traffic "enforcement" is nothing more than generating revenue or there would be real penalties...hence the issuers of the tickets are literally, revenue generators.
Just because someone does not like your prescribed and brain washed mind set that police are right and they call the shots does not make them mindless...it makes them people who use their minds, make their own opinions....they don't get issued them in an academy
now do we want to stop or should I start posting you tube videos showing jerk cops abusing their authority and showing their god complexes?
If you do, you can take a break from the oRg. We're all kind of sick of the cop-bashing, period. Shall I post up videos of generally overly opinionated people that don't know when to stop?
I think you've made your point. Time to take a back seat...suzuki4life
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I would have learned the cop was somewhat a good guy but a bad cop who chooses when he does his job and who's life he ruins....typical god complex
Perhaps, but who gives the LEO authority to decide which law he will enforce and which he will not? If laws are objective then why should enforcing them be subjective?
Not saying he was right or wrong to do what he did. I am glad your friend got out of a ticket. I am just asking the question.
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If you do, you can take a break from the oRg. We're all kind of sick of the cop-bashing, period. Shall I post up videos of generally overly opinionated people that don't know when to stop?
so we can't post truth because it might offend people now?
point taken.....and made.
suzuki4life
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I do believe we've covered how cop-bashing will be handled. You are so entitled to your opinion and I won't for one second try to change YOUR mind, but you don't need to use the oRg to prove your point to everyone over and over and over again. You want things changed, perhaps you should seek a spot with your local PD and make the difference you think needs to be made.
If this line of talk continues, the thread is locked. I'm sick of seeing an innocent enough thread turning in to a fight. It takes away from the initial intent of the thread.
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I was once trying to get out of New York City through the Holland Tunnel. Traffic in the tunnel was jammed up something awful. The light would cycle and maybe three or four cars could get into the tunnel. It had taken us maybe 90 minutes to go three blocks. We were getting close to the tunnel entrance and could see what was up. A police officer was keeping the traffic clear so cross-wise traffic not going into the tunnel could go through and relieve some of the congestion.
The light cycled again and we moved one car length forward, but someone at the front of the line had had enough and he went into the intersection on yellow and there was nowhere for him to go but to block the intersection. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
The cop walked up to him. I could hear them arguing, but not the words. The cop was pointing up the street, at right angles to the traffic. Finally the guy backed up a little, turns, and starts driving away from the tunnel.
Maybe some of you think the cop should have written a ticket to generate some revenue. But the cop used his judgement and sent him on a 3 hour journey around the block instead. Looked like justice to me.
Thanks to VaBusa and others for trying to calm the waters.
The light cycled again and we moved one car length forward, but someone at the front of the line had had enough and he went into the intersection on yellow and there was nowhere for him to go but to block the intersection. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
The cop walked up to him. I could hear them arguing, but not the words. The cop was pointing up the street, at right angles to the traffic. Finally the guy backed up a little, turns, and starts driving away from the tunnel.
Maybe some of you think the cop should have written a ticket to generate some revenue. But the cop used his judgement and sent him on a 3 hour journey around the block instead. Looked like justice to me.
Thanks to VaBusa and others for trying to calm the waters.
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Being a civilian and working with officers for several years, I can tell you I wouldn't want their job. They all have to answer to a superior all the way up the line. The days of the rogue cop are long gone. They are monitored thoroughly. The ability to drive as they please is hardly compensation for what they endure from both the public and their superiors. Granted, there are a few bad apples. Who doesn't have 'em? Next time you get pulled over for that probable well deserved and long overdue infraction, try to imagine what they've endured. Did they come from a shooting, where they or others narrowly escaped injury? A murder? As another poster said scooping up brain matter? Etc.. I for one would be ashamed to feel resentment toward them. And I work with one of the busiest forces in the nation, Miami-Dade. My hats off to all those who chose to serve and protect. Be safe and speed away!
But isn't this why the the law and enforcing the law should not be subjective. I understand LEOs are human and deal with a lot (my dad has been one for 30+ years), so doesn't it actually make it harded for them when the emotional stress factors into decisions about enforcing the law?
suzuki4life
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I removed many "tall" vehicles from Water Street in Manhattan because drivers would try to leave and their local cop would actually have them arrested when they tried to fit under the bridge (which they did fit and the route I would drive their vehicles out when I removed them)
problem was three female cops who didn't like hearing anything but yes ma'am. They would call for back up and off the driver would be toted...
Then their company would call us....
couldn't tow them, no clearance. I would drive right up to the cop who was screaming and jumping around like a lunatic waving her hands...lay on the air horn and drive under the bridge and out on the main road...never a scrape. I know I took over 40 trucks out under this situation....each time I saw one of the three cops...each time the same response. How long must you direct traffic on one intersection and see how many trucks before you realize a sign is wrong?
go to Brooklyn at 3am and watch the flinch stops at the red lights by the patrol cars. 20 red lights in a row...they are lucky if they even yield
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ajay, not that your story hasnt happened to me..and I am grateful for your "friend" getting lucky..but at the same time.. If you think respect for an officer is wearing your gear and having a legal machine..... that stuff is just a given. No one should get a gold star for being legal with inspection and registration...
What happened in this story, while cute, was favoritism. As you said, if you had a car toting trooper after you, things may have been different. So that is the officer picking and choosing who's revenue to generate that day. It really is a joke and hypocritical for them to say, "dont speed!" when:
1.) A lot of them do
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2.) If you dont speed, they dont eat.
Can you hear me now?
What happened in this story, while cute, was favoritism. As you said, if you had a car toting trooper after you, things may have been different. So that is the officer picking and choosing who's revenue to generate that day. It really is a joke and hypocritical for them to say, "dont speed!" when:
1.) A lot of them do
and
2.) If you dont speed, they dont eat.
Can you hear me now?
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