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Mr Brown
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I believe in creative evolution, i.e. God created but evolution occurs. My belief still can't be proven by me or anyone else. That's my point. You have to have faith, or it doesn't work.
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God is refered to in the male gender in the bible. I'm following along for the purposes of this discussion. I personally believe that God transcends gender, along with everything else by which we define our existence.Shouldn't God be an It not a Him. Why would it need to reproduce?
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Yeah, he specializes in the Psalms and the Minor prophets, Joel, Amos, etc.
He believes in creative evolution. An intelligent person can not deny the existence of evolution, proof of it is all around, but to prove that we evolved from slime requires facts that simply don't exist. He believes that God created evolution among his creatures to allow them to adapt as needed in order to flourish.
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God created us. If you believe, as the Bible says, that God made Adam from dust and spit, in His likeness, how else but evolution can you explain the diversity within the human race? Why do some of us have darker skin, lighter hair, are taller, etc. God created us with many abilities, I believe that the capability to evolve was one of them.
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I think the theory of creative evolution is dispelled by the laws of thermodynamics. beleiving in any form of evolution requires way more faith than beleiving God created the heavens, light, sun moon and starts and everthing that walks and grows on the earth. evolution cannot be proven so according to your Truth qualifications evolution can not be true. and according to this same application to Gods existence you claim it cannot be proven and therefore cannot be true. so maybe we don't actually exist. Hmmmmmmmm.
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genetic alterations through continuous procreation.
Mr Brown
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Yes. People now are taller, and live longer than in prior generations. We are able to use our resources more effectively, and make more areas inhabitable.
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Exactly. What do you think evolution is?
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Sure but they were retards compared to what we have become. They accomplished many things, but think about all that mankind has done since then.
The only reason we are so impressed by their accomplishments is because the technology became lost in the interim period. The things we can do with stones now make the pyramids look like little kids sandcastles now.
The Babel fish, is small, yellow, and leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the universe.
It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with.
It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them.
The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything that mindbogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God.
The argument goes something like this:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn´t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don´t. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn´t thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo´s kidneys, but that didn´t stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, Well That about Wraps It Up for God.
Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.
(Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Douglas Adams)
It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with.
It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them.
The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything that mindbogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God.
The argument goes something like this:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn´t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don´t. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn´t thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo´s kidneys, but that didn´t stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, Well That about Wraps It Up for God.
Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.
(Hitch Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy. Douglas Adams)
I found this definition for creative evolution- Is a non-standard cosmological view that everything in existence came into being by natural processes-the universe by the Big Bang, the human race by evolution, etc- but that these natural processes were guided by a higher intelligence, usually the Christian God. This view is common among theologically liberal Christians.
Is this an acurate definition?
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Mr Brown
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Evolution requires no belief, the proof of it is all around you. It can be empirically observed. Evolution exists, there is no doubt. I never said God doesn't exist, read more carefully next time. I said nobody can PROVE that God does or doesn't exist. Hence we BELIEVE what ever we choose.
Mr Brown
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Kinda, I don't believe the Big Bang Theory personally, but otherwise I would say that it is generally accurate. I can't speak for what others believe, but I believe that god created the Universe and life within it a long time ago and is watching as we evolve. I believe that God created all things and the proccesses that change us, and allows us to choose which path to take.
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