Its time to vent about my marriage...

Seems like you have gotten a lot of good advise so I'm not gonna add to it, I will however wish you luck in what ever you decide and know your org family is here for support.

Yes i have and also have a great friend in Jessie (sleepless_red) who called me and talked things over and said he would be there anytime.

I appreciate all the help and I hope the best for this for both of us...
You guys surpassed my expectations of the level of advice you all could give.
Im glad i found this place every day i log on :thumbsup:
 
If the Marine Corps wanted you to have a wife, they would have issued you one, lol

Seriously though, you are in a VERY tough situation. You dont have a job, being an active duty military member is all consuming. Your age really plays into it too. It sounds to me like she might be a bit immature, and it sounds like you are looking for someone to talk you out of quitting. I dont know what to tell you brother, but good luck
 
Wife and I celebrated 21st anniversary two weeks ago. Was it all lovey dovey mush mush? No, but like any relationship it takes some work and commitment to get through the rough spots.

- Be yourself.
- Don't apologize for something you have no control of.
- Don't allow her to verbally abuse you. There's no excuse for an abusive relationship.
- If she starts with the negative, change topic or talk to her later.
- If she's pissing you off, tell her and move on.
- Don't argue, agree to disagree and move on.
- Give her space and time to deal with school if that's the issue.
- If she "hates people" and hating on you, maybe some professional help is in order.

Remember, you're there to love, cherish and support. That doesn't mean you have to fix all her woes, nor does it mean you have to be her whipping post.

Best wishes and I hope that y'all can get things turned around.
 
I wish yall the best and hope everything gets worked out.
 
This is problem, you are talking to people on internet and not her!! You are being positive and supportive, she is verbally abusing you!! She is a woman, she is always right and nothing is her fault!!! As you pointed out, her family even agrees with you. Does she want to stay married? Are you sure there is not someone else? I have been with cheating girls that pulled same sh^& and feel better by putting you down and blaming to feel better about what they truly are doing. If she is not cheating, and has low self esteem, no friends and you are not around, you need to talk to her and tell her how you feel. Even if she screams. If you are close to ending it, let her know and see if that scares her straight. If you both want it to work and it is close to an end because of the long distance relationship, a break from school may be in order and have her move up with you to save your marriage. School is not more important than your relationship. The only people that can decide how much your hearts are in the relationship are you guys!!! Either way, you are young and have your whole lives ahead of you. If you can't make it work, figure it out now before you guys have kids.

Sorry about the frankness of this!!! Just coming from experience.

I hope she is not cheating, but women and men cheat for different reasons. Women do it out of feeling neglected, alone, and looking for companionship and relationships. The defense mechanism is to put all blame on the guy and it has to be his fault and you "drove" her to it..... Just think about it for a minute. I would say you need to check into this possiblity....
 
You're not married to her so you have the option of waiting until she's done with school to have a relationship with her since she obviously doesn't have the time or emotional stability right now. But dumping her will only give her dilution of you not giving her attention (or whatever) validity. So basically:

1. Stay and be resented.
2. Dump her and be resented.

You're basically screwed on this one bud.
 
Work it out. I have wanted to divorce my wife so many times when I get mad, but when I go to tell her, I look at her and realize how much I still love her. That woman drives me crazy all the time, but the good times we have always outweigh the bad. There is enough bad times to make it really tough, but worth it. That is something that exists in every marriage.
My advice to you would be to not take her crap. Tell her how it makes you feel and what it makes you think of doing. The ONLY way to get through a marriage is to be honest (brutally honest when times call for it).
Good luck to you and remember, your vows weren't just to your wife, they were to god as well.
 
to the gentleman who said "meet her halfway", that's not how marriage works. each partner needs to go 100% for the other one. you need to make 100% of the effort to see her, make her happy, let her know she's loved, and she needs to make a 100% effort to show you the same. send her flowers tomorrow for no reason at all, with a short note telling her how you feel. 50 bucks says she cries and it makes her day.
 
Only read post #1 ...seemed to be enough :whistle:


Married at 22 and it's a long distance relationship.................:whistle:


All I can do is pray for you both ...good luck :thumbsup: I think you both will need lots of it :laugh:
 
The long distance thing sucks. I spent a year in Korea and my wife was here in MD. She'd call me twice a day and then get upset with me when I had nothing to talk about (she called me before I went to sleep, and then when I got up, wtf was I supposed to talk about?). We're going on 15 years this May, I went to Korea at the 4-5 year mark. Wasnt as bad as your description.

Didnt read all the pages of responses but I dont know if I'd put up with it. This is just what I would do: Be very blunt and straight forward with her. Tell her you understand that school is stressing her, but you cant put up with the roller coaster emotional train. You have feelings and stress in your life also. Either we (you two) need to figure out how to be polite to each other and work this out like adults, or maybe this thing just wont work. I know it's harsh, but with what I read, maybe a wake up call is what she needs. If she is very quick to say "fine", then maybe it's a sign to bail before you've got too much invested (money/time/and god forbid children). Just my opinion.
 
to the gentleman who said "meet her halfway", that's not how marriage works. each partner needs to go 100% for the other one. you need to make 100% of the effort to see her, make her happy, let her know she's loved, and she needs to make a 100% effort to show you the same. send her flowers tomorrow for no reason at all, with a short note telling her how you feel. 50 bucks says she cries and it makes her day.

For the sake of conversation.... Think that sounds realistic in this case? Since he is government-owned and can't make the trip, and she's too wrapped up in school (4 classes, and her load is heavy?) and herself... Why would meeting in the middle be unreasonable? As it stands, it sounds like nothing but lamentations are happening. And spending money on gifts and whatnot sounds like a good idea to the hopeless romantic, but my gut tells me she'll put the flowers on the shelf to wilt with no net benefit. Sometimes you can't fix it with token gestures, and all you end up with is spent money. He already said he sends gifts, but he's still here talking to us. Why send more if it's not working?

I used to go 100% with my ex-wife. We lived 8 hours apart before we were married. I was travelling for work full-time. I ran myself ragged for the woman. I don't recall a time when she ever came to me. Divorcing her over a decade ago was the best thing I could have done, short of never having married her. I was about his age when I married her, and I see a lot of parallels.
 
Ok not to sound like an arse or anything but at first reading and continuing to page two I would say it sounds likes she wants to break up but wants you to do it.

Now this might not be the case and she just cant handle stress so she vents it on you cause it is an easy scapegoat. You arent there to get good points in and it is easy to tell you off whenever you try something cause she can always hang up the phone.

I was station in Seattle while in the first two years of the Corp and my current (lol and only) wife lived in michigan going to school. We had the same issues, school stress, other people, distance. We didnt make it past the engagement cause like the two of you we argued and I gave up after hearing the wrong information at the wrong time. It took me 3 more years to get the right story and to ask her for forgiveness and I had to get out of active duty just to get her back. Funny thing is is that after one year of engagement and getting back together, I deployed for 16 months while she was prego with our first.
She made a 400 mile trip to see me each weekend she could(4) while she was 6 months prego.

Your wife might be having school issues or having seconds thoughts cause you guys were a little young to get married. Lets face it the stats are against you. This isnt to say you cant make it. If she yells at you everytime you say something then stop talking. Ask her what it is that makes her sop upset when you talk and if she yells at you again then ask her again to say something that is making her upset and then tell her you love her and to have her call you back when she is ready to be a wife and have a conversation with her husband.

it might take her a day or two and if she calls right back dont answer it. She needs time to marinate and give you a factual answer. Now bare in mind it might not be the answer you want but at least it will be an answer.

I hope this helps. I know how much this sucks and how much long distance relationships suck, but they have worked and are still working till this day. So why not you.But it sounds like she needs to do some real expressing and not just leave it all one sided.
 
I feel for you Russell, not a good place to be. However, the bottom line is she simply doesn't like you. You can spoil her rotten and nothing is going to change except you becoming a wuss around the house!

You have choices to make that will determine your destiny in life!

Choose wisely!
 
Ok not to sound like an arse or anything but at first reading and continuing to page two I would say it sounds likes she wants to break up but wants you to do it.

Well.... yes, it does sort of sound like this may be the case.

You are indeed in a very rough spot, but if you are asking for advice, I assume you are prepared to hear some tough love comments, so... here you go:

Little Brother - you simply married too young. Given the hard statistics of young marriages, coupled with the fact you two are not even in the same geographical location... 'tis only a matter of time before The Inevitable happens. If you're reaching out to your bike forum brethren for advice/counsel, then I suspect you already know this.

There is some solace to be had here.... if you two had children together, the eventual Fork in the Road would be much, MUCH rougher than it's going to be as it is now.

Good fortune to you, young man..... when you find yourself bumming heavily about this situation, try to remember that this is simply another Stepping Stone in Life... one of many that you will encounter over time.
 
Lastly, DO NOT LET HER GET A CLUE ABOUT THIS THREAD. Her reading this would REALLY probably set her off...in fact, if she knows you come here, you might consider asking the mods to delete it.....
 
Sorry to hear about your troubles brother, I'm 26 and married at 21 to a woman 10 years older than me. I can't begin to tell you how difficult marriage was the first few years, and you have the multiplier of living 10 hours apart! I would never give you the advice to divorce your wife, that's not my place. I gotta admit though...it doesn't look good on her part if everything you said about her is the truth. I would almost have to agree that it's a real possibility she is trying to push you to be the jerk and do the breaking up. Maybe try and put ALL of the feelings you expressed to us into a letter or email and send it to her so she doesn;t have the chance to cut you off and lash back out at you right away. Tell her how much you want it to work and that you love her more than anything BUT that she is making it hard by...(insert complaints). Tell her what you miss about her and what it was that made you fall for her to begin with. Tell her what went through your mind the first time you saw her. Give it all to her, the good with the bad and like I said, put it in an email. If she blows that off and calls or writes back with nothing but negativity..then you can be fairly certain that she is either done, or looking for a considerable break from marriage. I write these letters to my wife every once in a while just to remind her why I will always be here. I too have been going to school FULL TIME and working nights for the postal service, the entire time I've been married, and now I'm quitting my job to attend law school full time in August. My wife and I have made it through all of this, but then again we live together. Being so far apart has got to make it that much harder, but I wouldn't buy the school load excuse entirely, cuz bro I've been doin it for years, and we have 3 kids. If all she's doin is goin to school and maybe workin part time...no excuse to not come see you on breaks or 3 day weekends.

I'll pray for you bro. May God grant you the serenity to accept the things you cannot change, the courage to change the things you can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Good Luck!
 
Condolences on the situation. Sounds like a difficult situation at best.

My thoughts, perhaps a bit blunt, but as objective as possible:

Disclaimer: There's a lot of advice in this thread. Some good, some maybe not so good. We all have a different perspective, but remember that we're all just like you in the sense that there is no "magic solution" to any relationship, none of us are experts on relationships and even if we were, the only experts on ANY given relationship are really the two people in that relationship. So absorb the advice, taking much of it with a grain of salt (some of it with an entire salt shaker ;) and let it make you think and see various perspectives, but ultimately make your decisions based on your own thinking. Just like a good movie, what the critics say is only relevant in terms of your thinking. They can help you consider all aspects, but only you can decide what is good for you.


1) Any relationship in which all the partners can't generally treat each other with respect is unhealthy for all involved. It is entirely normal to be upset with each other, justly or otherwise, from time to time, but it is NEVER acceptable for one to suffer the ill will of another without cause. If such a situation persists, then the one who lays down out of reflex will always be in that position and the one doin' the steam-rolling will likely feel no need to change their behavior.

2) A private, undistracted face to face on the matter is recommended. Clearly define the issues, both yours and hers and find some common ground from which to move forward. If this can't be done, there is real trouble.

3) Kids have been mentioned. When a couple has an unfortunate relationship, that's one thing. When they have children, it becomes tragic. The worst relationship that can occur is for unhappy couples to have children. The children "learn" how to be unhappy, angry, hurtful, etc..., all the poor behavior exhibited by the parents and the parents are even LESS likely to end their relationship "for the sake of the kids". I'm all for two people workin' things out if they BOTH really want to and are willing to make the effort, but the WORST possible outcome is to poison children by simply resolving to endure a painful/unhappy relationship. The children are ALWAYS the innocent losers.

PS: If you have a major difference in religion, it MUST be resolved in terms of any children BEFORE they are conceived. If not, the chance for a happy household is woefully reduced.

4) Unfortunately, like others have mentioned, there are signs in her behavior that indicate that she may be involved with someone else or she may be looking to breakup but want to "inspire" you to drop that bomb. That said, she also may simply be immature, unable to control her emotions, not understand your behavior and get frustrated/angry/sad/overwhelmed, or she may simply be growing in a different direction and feel that you and her are not growing together (and I believe this is very common among couples that meet/marry under 30).

Bottom line, you have to evaluate what you really want in a relationship (and what is simply unacceptable) and a partner and she must do the same. Then you both must be able to discuss these things together and agree on how to proceed from there. The net result could be a "happily ever after" or it could end in breakup/divorce. The most important thing is that your honest with yourself about what's happened and what you want to happen and what you believe is possible or likely.

Sincerest best wishes on the matter.

Life is short. Choose to be happy. :)
 
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