Looks like a war is looming in Israel

[Bumblebee]

Ignore the media source....what is said is the truth.....

Countless people are killed in mass genocide all over the world by varying countries and factions yet I've never seen anyone protesting these killings.....

Israel is low hanging fruit for the dissidents of the world to latch onto due to the widespread antisemite ideology which is ever present.

 

[jellyrug]

Ignore the media source....what is said is the truth.....

Countless people are killed in mass genocide all over the world by varying countries and factions yet I've never seen anyone protesting these killings.....

Israel is low hanging fruit for the dissidents of the world to latch onto due to the widespread antisemite ideology which is ever present.

What one of our friends who gets history wrong won't tell you.

When Arabs were removed from their homes way back in Israel, they were not removed by the Jewish people. Arabs were removed and instructed to move by surrounding Arab nations. Twenty percent of them today, come from those who refused to move, remained on their land. They are today Arabic Israeli citizens, Arabs living in harmony with the Jews.

 

[TallTom]

What this person says is interesting as many Muslim countries are similar....Afghanistan for instance is made up from different tribes ruled by war lords...all of them are also conflicted and were in-fighting long before NATO invaded....

There are still regions in Afghanistan where the Taliban don't go.

Yep. Many people are either unaware or are conditioned to what the media spins to them. All of these territories can be traced back to the ruling warlord families. They all harbor hostilities for one another. But they are least established borders. Iraq hated Iran. Iran hates the Saudi's etc.

Been going on for thousands of years.

There aren't elections. There are coups. Otherwise the family that took the land rules over the land.

But they all really against the infidels!

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Without Iran, October 7th, which incidentally is also Putin's birthday, would never have happened.

Iran planned, orchestrated, facilitated, sponsored and enabled Hamas to start this war, with only one objective. That is to discredit Israel and their allies the Western world.

Now we see folks protesting inside our country, chanting death to America, to a much larger scale chanting death to America in Iran at their President's funeral. We see this throughout Europe as well. We see a whole lot of turmoil in the Western world as a result.

This is exactly what Iran wanted, exactly what Russia wanted and you are doing exactly what they want Americans to do.

And at the end of the day, in this gruesome master plan, nobody who contributed to October 7th, really cares about the Palestinians. All they care about are the reactions you display, exactly what they want.

Okayyyyyyyy. None of what you said is in dispute.
Yet you’re using all that as a reason to continue to excuse the whole scale murder we are witnessing now.
The world knows it. The number of countries still supporting Israel is at an all time low. The number of countries condemning them is at an all time high.
But you’re free to keep your head in the dark up there where it is. This country is hog tied by a few when the many are against what Israel is NOW doing.
You’re free to label people condemning the deaths we are seeing as antisemites. Like I said before go tell it to tens of thousands of Jews in Israel screaming for it to stop.
‘Y’all are a bunch of antisemites!’. Easy to do because Omg ‘I could never….criticize Israel!’ is YOU.

Go ahead. Go tell em. I’ll wait. Make sure to take a video. I’d really love to see you call these folks who live there and are Jewish Anti-Semitic.

Wait? What? Didn’t see this on the nightly news? Of course not. They don’t want the world to see that not even Israelis support it anymore.
Netanyahu should already be in jail. That is the only reason HE is dragging this on. He knows when it stops the charges already against him will be brought forward along with many new ones. Delay delay delay his own demise he is at the hands of thousands of innocents.
But keep thinking ‘eradicating Hamas’ is a possibility. Lmao..

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

What one of our friends who gets history wrong won't tell you.

When Arabs were removed from their homes way back in Israel, they were not removed by the Jewish people. Arabs were removed and instructed to move by surrounding Arab nations. Twenty percent of them today, come from those who refused to move, remained on their land. They are today Arabic Israeli citizens, Arabs living in harmony with the Jews.

NO Arab nation or people took part in the Nakba.
Forced expulsion of over 800,000 people by Jewish militias and Christian collaborators.

Please post your links showing Muslims and Arabs took part in expelling their own people and helped create Israel.
It’s ok. I understand. You have no soul and pray for the deaths of more kids. And when that number is mentioned you gleefully posted you had hoped for more.
Bibi thanks you for your steadfast blindness.

 

[jellyrug]

NO Arab nation or people took part in the Nakba.
Forced expulsion of over 800,000 people by Jewish militias and Christian collaborators.

Please post your links showing Muslims and Arabs took part in expelling their own people and helped create Israel.
It’s ok. I understand. You have no soul and pray for the deaths of more kids. And when that number is mentioned you gleefully posted you had hoped for more.
Bibi thanks you for your steadfast blindness.

Already posted, number of post ago.

Not possible to enter into a decent intellectual debate with you, you refuse to answer questions you don’t like, and you can’t drag me down to your level.

 

[Bumblebee]

Israel is basically a western country and look at how many protests are being held in those over this issue...why should Israel be exempt?

I'm sure the families of the people who Hamas butchered and raped aren't there protesting against the eradication of Hamas....and I'm certain they wouldn't support these pro-Palestinian protesters..

Of whom the ones in western countries don't have a clue as to what they are protesting about but rather are more interested in joining some sort of self-righteous cause.

The idea that Israel will ever be able to eradicate Hamas is as far fetched as us eradicating Houthis, Taliban, ISIL or all the other terror organizations of the world.....a good thought but not realistic unfortunately...

 

[jellyrug]

Israel is basically a western country and look at how many protests are being held in those over this issue...why should Israel be exempt?

I'm sure the families of the people who Hamas butchered and raped aren't there protesting against the eradication of Hamas....and I'm certain they wouldn't support these pro-Palestinian protesters..

Of whom the ones in western countries don't have a clue as to what they are protesting about but rather are more interested in joining some sort of self-righteous cause.

The idea that Israel will ever be able to eradicate Hamas is as far fetched as us eradicating Houthis, Taliban, ISIL or all the other terror organizations of the world.....a good thought but not realistic unfortunately...

I believe this is very simple, one needs less than half a brain to figure this out. If the enemy identifies itself exactly the same as innocent civilians and positions itself within innocent civilians, the IDF has two choices.

1.) Surrender, evacuate Israel and give it to Hamas.


2.) Erase the enemy with massive civilian casualties as part of the course, otherwise it is absolutely impossible to erase the enemy and this will continue forever.

It blows my mind why that is so hard to understand, other than perhaps siding with Iran, their propaganda and agreeing with those who holler death to America.

This is one of those questions Saiid will refuse to answer, as he wants option 1, but is not man enough to admit it.

 

[Bumblebee]

I believe this is very simple, one needs less than half a brain to figure this out. If the enemy identifies itself exactly the same as innocent civilians and positions itself within innocent civilians, the IDF has two choices.

1.) Surrender, evacuate Israel and give it to Hamas.


2.) Erase the enemy with massive civilian casualties as part of the course, otherwise it is absolutely impossible to erase the enemy and this will continue forever.

It blows my mind why that is so hard to understand, other than perhaps siding with Iran, their propaganda and agreeing with those who holler death to America.

This is one of those questions Saiid will refuse to answer, as he wants option 1, but is not man enough to admit it.

Fighting an ideological enemy in these conditions isn't an easy thing for any military...

The US basically leveled Syria and Iraq, the streets were unrecognizable and using a map was almost impossible as many streets no longer existed.....ground movement sucked as a result....

Never heard a peep from anyone over those conflicts......nor most any other conflict but we are certainly hearing lots about this conflict......

Like the videos I posted eluded to...if any other nation was conducting this operation, not a word would be heard.....

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Notice no number given which recognizes them as human as deserving of their own homeland and to be in charge of their own destiny.
1:surrender
or
2:die

70+ years they’ve gotten neither one. They are just swarthy camel humpers anyway.

You don’t need a brain at all to stick your empty head up bibis backside and mindlessly follow and support them. Sorry but this American is tired of ‘never again’ being used as a constant excuse to excuse this BS. And Bee you’re wrong. The families of the hostages are the loudest ones screaming now for this to stop.

Difference between me and the other one is at no point in time here there or anywhere have I ever hoped for the death of Jewish folks or anyone. The other person was disappointed more kids didn’t die in an air strike.

 

[Bumblebee]

. And Bee you’re wrong. The families of the hostages are the loudest ones screaming now for this to stop.

Most likely only because the keep finding them dead because Hamas is killing them instead of returning them. The Hamas want an exchange where they get prisoners back from Israel-for hostages......terrorist for innocents.....sounds fair..........not.

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/06/1211077559/families-of-hamas-hostages-and-many-in-israel-say-they-support-a-prisoner-swap

 

[jellyrug]

Notice no number given which recognizes them as human as deserving of their own homeland and to be in charge of their own destiny.
1:surrender
or
2:die

70+ years they’ve gotten neither one. They are just swarthy camel humpers anyway.

You don’t need a brain at all to stick your empty head up bibis backside and mindlessly follow and support them. Sorry but this American is tired of ‘never again’ being used as a constant excuse to excuse this BS. And Bee you’re wrong. The families of the hostages are the loudest ones screaming now for this to stop.

Difference between me and the other one is at no point in time here there or anywhere have I ever hoped for the death of Jewish folks or anyone. The other person was disappointed more kids didn’t die in an air strike.

You still can’t pull me down to your level Saiid, I just don’t fit there.

But isn’t that what war is? Win, surrender or die?

If someone starts a war, is there anything other than those three?

 

[Red05]

Never heard a peep from anyone over those conflicts......nor most any other conflict but we are certainly hearing lots about this conflict......

Maybe you should have listened more carefully. I was called a traitor and much worse for not agreeing with invading and destroying Iraq, and I wasn’t alone.

Like the videos I posted eluded to...if any other nation was conducting this operation, not a word would be heard.....

0 for 2 Bee. Wrong is wrong regardless of who commits it.

 

[jellyrug]

Maybe you should have listened more carefully. I was called a traitor and much worse for not agreeing with invading and destroying Iraq, and I wasn’t alone.

0 for 2 Bee. Wrong is wrong regardless of who commits it.

Hindsight sucks, Iraq was the biggest mistake the US ever made. I was a Democrat back then, but no more. Think you are sitting in the fence?

I actually think Obama did a pretty good job, but unfortunately his succession planning turned out to be a total disaster.

 

[Bumblebee]

Maybe you should have listened more carefully. I was called a traitor and much worse for not agreeing with invading and destroying Iraq, and I wasn’t alone.

0 for 2 Bee. Wrong is wrong regardless of who commits it.

You are an individual......I'm speaking of mass protests such as what is happening now....not what one individual is saying....

Although I'm not 100% sold on the first invasion of Iraq, the second invasion was necessary once ISIL got their foothold established there...they had to be eliminated...that being said there were a lot of mass graves found from Hussein's time in power where he orchestrated genocide.

Wrong might be wrong but where is the outrage over other atrocities all over the world which are occurring and have been occurring for decades?

When did the entitled decide what conflict is worthy of protesting and which is to be ignored?

 

[jellyrug]

Although I'm not 100% sold on the first invasion of Iraq, the second invasion was necessary once ISIL got their foothold established there...they had to be eliminated...that being said there were a lot of mass graves found from Hussein's time in power where he orchestrated genocide.

We helped Sadam, to rise to who he became. He had Iran nicely in check, kept them on their toes. Worst thing we could do is remove him, based on incorrect intelligence.

As far as Genocide is concerned, isn’t that just the sports one tribe plays against another in the Middle East?

 

[Bumblebee]

We helped Sadam, to rise to who he became. He had Iran nicely in check, kept them on their toes. Worst thing we could do is remove him, based on incorrect intelligence.

As far as Genocide is concerned, isn’t that just the sports one tribe plays against another in the Middle East?

Genocide happens all over it seems...I saw a lot of it in Africa and the Balkans.....mass graves were all over the place....that smell stays with a person....

Hussein kept his people in check through brutality. He was the typical dictator-do as I say or die.

 

[jellyrug]

Genocide happens all over it seems...I saw a lot of it in Africa and the Balkans.....mass graves were all over the place....that smell stays with a person....

Hussein kept his people in check through brutality. He was the typical dictator-do as I say or die.

C’mon Bee, you know better than that. Almost the entire Middle East, excluding Israel is a do as I say or die. Same goes for Russia.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

There are sections of Bed Stuy and East L.A. that have similar ‘rules’. I’m sure Chicago and Baltimore have similar neighborhoods.

 

[jellyrug]

There are sections of Bed Stuy and East L.A. that have similar ‘rules’. I’m sure Chicago and Baltimore have similar neighborhoods.

From a crime point of view, I am sure that happens in every country around the globe. But from a political or government point of view, that will be hard to find in first world countries.

That said, the latest over here is to find any possible way to prosecute a major political opponent.