Looks like a war is looming in Israel

[Red05]

You are an individual......I'm speaking of mass protests such as what is happening now....not what one individual is saying....



Wrong might be wrong but where is the outrage over other atrocities all over the world which are occurring and have been occurring for decades?

When did the entitled decide what conflict is worthy of protesting and which is to be ignored?

There was plenty of outrage about Iraq, plenty of debate as there is now about Gaza, at least here in the states. I never really consider whether I’m in the minority, what I feel and think just is.
The fact that there is so much outrage about Gaza in no way changes the fact that Hamas will not be eradicated; it’s a belief without borders, and in no way qualifies that destroying the lives of millions of Palestinians in a pursuit of a lost cause is justified or correct. I realize we don’t agree; I doubt that matters to someone run out of the only home they ever knew.

 

[Red05]

Hindsight sucks, Iraq was the biggest mistake the US ever made. I was a Democrat back then, but no more. Think you are sitting in the fence?

I actually think Obama did a pretty good job, but unfortunately his succession planning turned out to be a total disaster.

I thought Obama was pretty good too. I thought Cash for Clunkers was a clunker, and the racial divide in the U.S. sure didn’t improve, although on that aspect I don’t know what Obama could have done differently. I don’t think the president has as huge an impact on the economy as some but the American people started digging out of a hole in ‘08 and by ‘16 was in a much better place.

 

[Bumblebee]

There was plenty of outrage about Iraq, plenty of debate as there is now about Gaza, at least here in the states. I never really consider whether I’m in the minority, what I feel and think just is.
The fact that there is so much outrage about Gaza in no way changes the fact that Hamas will not be eradicated; it’s a belief without borders, and in no way qualifies that destroying the lives of millions of Palestinians in a pursuit of a lost cause is justified or correct. I realize we don’t agree; I doubt that matters to someone run out of the only home they ever knew.

I guess I'm more jaded as I've been in many countries strife with misery and death and when coming back home, not a word in any sort of media describing their plight whatsoever.....

I've seen little to no public outrage in the form of protests regarding other nations plights......I personally believe there has been and always will be an antisemitic ideology hiding and this conflict is an opportunity to unleash this sediment without actually appearing to be antisemitic. This core group can use this cause to draw in the ignorant in order to expand the protests to a desired level.

Like I've mentioned several times.....Sudan recently had a coup where tens of thousands of citizens were killed and over a million displaced.....where are the organized protests over that and the demand for western intervention? The list of similar actions conducted by varying countries is lengthy yet are all gone unnoticed by the world........

What are these protests accomplishing other than ruining the lives of the protesters and pissing off the populace? If these protesters are so adamite they want to do something, perhaps they should organize themselves and go to the Gaza to actually assist the people they are protesting on behalf of.

Israel didn't start this and although they will never defeat Hamas because as you pointed out Hamas like many other terror groups is an generational ideology and next to impossible to eradicate unless you get each and every one of them....which is impossible.

We see these protesters professing their hate towards Israel, what about all the neighboring countries which could have given the Palestinians safe harbor yet won't....

 

[Bumblebee]

C’mon Bee, you know better than that. Almost the entire Middle East, excluding Israel is a do as I say or die. Same goes for Russia.

Many countries are in this category......don't step out of line in China either....

Yet the west kisses their butts......

 

[jellyrug]

Israel didn't start this and although they will never defeat Hamas because as you pointed out Hamas like many other terror groups is an generational ideology and next to impossible to eradicate unless you get each and every one.

Practically, if Israel is not allowed to defeat Hamas, either by their surrender or elimination from the land, what happens next?

The war continues forever?

 

[michael parris heuberger]

Practically, if Israel is not allowed to defeat Hamas, either by their surrender or elimination from the land, what happens next?

The war continues forever?

Hi. 1948 started this and it will just keep going on and on. Just read the quran. I think no can live in peace with them as they can not live with yhem selfes.

 

[jellyrug]

Saiid is getting a lot of support for his views, just saying….

Iran celebrates pro-Palestinian protests spreading across US colleges

"The true face of Western civilization has become more and more clear to the people of the world," Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi said.

www.newsweek.com

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

I guess I'm more jaded as I've been in many countries strife with misery and death and when coming back home, not a word in any sort of media describing their plight whatsoever.....

I've seen little to no public outrage in the form of protests regarding other nations plights......I personally believe there has been and always will be an antisemitic ideology hiding and this conflict is an opportunity to unleash this sediment without actually appearing to be antisemitic. This core group can use this cause to draw in the ignorant in order to expand the protests to a desired level.

Like I've mentioned several times.....Sudan recently had a coup where tens of thousands of citizens were killed and over a million displaced.....where are the organized protests over that and the demand for western intervention? The list of similar actions conducted by varying countries is lengthy yet are all gone unnoticed by the world........

What are these protests accomplishing other than ruining the lives of the protesters and pissing off the populace? If these protesters are so adamite they want to do something, perhaps they should organize themselves and go to the Gaza to actually assist the people they are protesting on behalf of.

Israel didn't start this and although they will never defeat Hamas because as you pointed out Hamas like many other terror groups is an generational ideology and next to impossible to eradicate unless you get each and every one of them....which is impossible.

We see these protesters professing their hate towards Israel, what about all the neighboring countries which could have given the Palestinians safe harbor yet won't....

The Sudanese people aren’t white are they?

 

[Red05]

I guess I'm more jaded as I've been in many countries strife with misery and death and when coming back home, not a word in any sort of media describing their plight whatsoever.....

I've seen little to no public outrage in the form of protests regarding other nations plights......I personally believe there has been and always will be an antisemitic ideology hiding and this conflict is an opportunity to unleash this sediment without actually appearing to be antisemitic. This core group can use this cause to draw in the ignorant in order to expand the protests to a desired level.

Like I've mentioned several times.....Sudan recently had a coup where tens of thousands of citizens were killed and over a million displaced.....where are the organized protests over that and the demand for western intervention? The list of similar actions conducted by varying countries is lengthy yet are all gone unnoticed by the world........

What are these protests accomplishing other than ruining the lives of the protesters and pissing off the populace? If these protesters are so adamite they want to do something, perhaps they should organize themselves and go to the Gaza to actually assist the people they are protesting on behalf of.

Israel didn't start this and although they will never defeat Hamas because as you pointed out Hamas like many other terror groups is an generational ideology and next to impossible to eradicate unless you get each and every one of them....which is impossible.

We see these protesters professing their hate towards Israel, what about all the neighboring countries which could have given the Palestinians safe harbor yet won't....

You are absolutely right about the lack of outrage and protest in so many instances, even though in and of themselves each situation does not lessen another. I can see how the lack of empathy concerning Sudan makes you question how authentic the other protests are. Some, not all, of the people are just making noise.
Being there physically does not look like a good idea as aid is being restricted, leading to many dying of malnutrition. Not seeing that as a good thing is absolutely not antisemite, it's pro humanity.
I think giving financially is the best thing anyone from this continent can do given the present situation.

 

[Bumblebee]

You are absolutely right about the lack of outrage and protest in so many instances, even though in and of themselves each situation does not lessen another. I can see how the lack of empathy concerning Sudan makes you question how authentic the other protests are. Some, not all, of the people are just making noise.
Being there physically does not look like a good idea as aid is being restricted, leading to many dying of malnutrition. Not seeing that as a good thing is absolutely not antisemite, it's pro humanity.
I think giving financially is the best thing anyone from this continent can do given the present situation.

What I don't like to see is the antisemitic rhetoric coming out of all this....someone here in Canada shot at a Jewish school (which is a rare occurrence) and all kinds of hate graffiti is being sprayed on Jewish owned businesses and places of worship....

There are many Jewish people who have never been to Israel which are drawing the ire of these protesters and many of them are being targeted by antisemites using these protests as a cover.

If the tables were reversed and it was an Islamic sect which was being targeted here in the west, heads would be rolling and rolling fast....government agencies and police would leave no stone unturned to apprehend and prosecute the perpetrators......this can't be said during the recent attacks on Jewish people and property.....

I find it a big ball of hypocrisy.....

 

[jellyrug]

The Sudanese people aren’t white are they?

What does DNA have to do with this?

 

[Bumblebee]

The Sudanese people aren’t white are they?

I don't know if color has anything to do with this or is it religion or who has the loudest voice or the most to offer....??

I only used Sudan as one example, there are many, many more where outlandish atrocities have occurred with zero media coverage and no global outrage......even after we and other agencies have reported them, nothing is done.

 

[jellyrug]

I think giving financially is the best thing anyone from this continent can do given the present situation.

Solving or relieving problems created by people with money is a noble idea. Life is about the choices people make and as long as they make the wrong choices, money only extends the misery needing more money.

I support financial aid following national disasters, but I am sure that a large portion of the aid to Gaza is keeping Hamas afloat which just extends the misery of their “innocent” supporters.

 

[WuzzaCBXRider]

What does DNA have to do with this?

You’re kidding right? Since when have white people in this world give a shiite about black folks in third world countries?

 

[jellyrug]

You’re kidding right? Since when have white people in this world give a shiite about black folks in third world countries?

Nope, I am not kidding, when it comes to humans in the year 2024 I no longer define them by color. We are all humans, evolved from Homo Sapiens 300,000 years ago with origins in Africa, and geography, the UV of the sun, the circumstances we evolved under had an influence on how we look.

You can search all my posts going years back, I have never used color in describing a human, to me that is just wrong. Hopefully one day others will join me.

BTW, I am a pedigree full blooded African American, a US Citizen born and raised in Africa.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

You still can’t pull me down to your level Saiid, I just don’t fit there.

But isn’t that what war is? Win, surrender or die?

If someone starts a war, is there anything other than those three?

Still no links showing what arab nations or people are responsible for the mass expulsion.

Can’t pull someone down when they are already lower than you. You are the one who prays for more dead kids. Disappointed more weren’t killed in an indiscriminate air strike. You are no better than what Erdogan said about Netanyahu, a vampire and bloodthirsty.

Bee they’d never tell you the injuries apparent on the hostages showed they died in conflict….ie…..by their own. The IDF killed them when the blew EVERYTHING up. And now want to say Hamas did it. Ok sure.
I posted and showed protests IN Israel demanding it stop. Y’all ’probably because’
I tell you the families themselves are screaming enough is enough. Y’all ‘well it’s probably because’.
I show you people protesting against it. Y’all are ‘well they are antisemites being antisemitic’
Wait! Those are Jews? Rofl

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

The whole scale massacre of people will continue to be excused as long as our dear ally wants.
The vampires here don’t care. It’s obvious. I hope the rest of you are ok with their blood on your hands.

Israel Used U.S.-Made Bombs in Strike That Killed Dozens in Rafah

A Times visual analysis found that munition debris filmed at the scene was remnants of a GBU-39, a bomb designed and manufactured in the United States.

www.nytimes.com

 

[jellyrug]

Still no links showing what arab nations or people are responsible for the mass expulsion.

Second time, I posted a link in this thread a long time ago. If you did not get it the first time and you did not read the post back then, then I guess posting it again will make no difference.

Sadly you refuse to answer logical questions and enter into an intellectual debate, so there is no point. Your continuous insults really does not affect me, other than learning more about who you are.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

I guess I'm more jaded as I've been in many countries strife with misery and death and when coming back home, not a word in any sort of media describing their plight whatsoever.....

I've seen little to no public outrage in the form of protests regarding other nations plights......I personally believe there has been and always will be an antisemitic ideology hiding and this conflict is an opportunity to unleash this sediment without actually appearing to be antisemitic. This core group can use this cause to draw in the ignorant in order to expand the protests to a desired level.

Like I've mentioned several times.....Sudan recently had a coup where tens of thousands of citizens were killed and over a million displaced.....where are the organized protests over that and the demand for western intervention? The list of similar actions conducted by varying countries is lengthy yet are all gone unnoticed by the world........

What are these protests accomplishing other than ruining the lives of the protesters and pissing off the populace? If these protesters are so adamite they want to do something, perhaps they should organize themselves and go to the Gaza to actually assist the people they are protesting on behalf of.

Israel didn't start this and although they will never defeat Hamas because as you pointed out Hamas like many other terror groups is an generational ideology and next to impossible to eradicate unless you get each and every one of them....which is impossible.

We see these protesters professing their hate towards Israel, what about all the neighboring countries which could have given the Palestinians safe harbor yet won't....

why are you asking such silly questions? How many Sudanese folks own major conglomerate media corporations? How many own tv stations or news programs or news papers?
Well there’s your answer as to why one leads 24/7 and nobody ‘cares’ what happened in Khartoum. Can’t care about what you don’t HEAR about. That also has a lot to do with what you watch. Anything from this continent is ad driven and Sudan doesn’t generate viewers which won’t lead to revenue.
Had you wanted to see coverage from Sudan you should watch Sky News, BBC network and even Al Jazeera English can be pretty good at covering stories you’ll never see here.

 

[Blanca BusaLess]

Second time, I posted a link in this thread a long time ago. If you did not get it the first time and you did not read the post back then, then I guess posting it again will make no difference.

Sadly you refuse to answer logical questions and enter into an intellectual debate, so there is no point. Your continuous insults really does not affect me, other than learning more about who you are.

You posted it so it should be easy to find. Let’s see it. I think 800,000 people and their relatives would really enjoy hearing you blame anyone else other than Jewish militias. It’ll be a classic!
I am a puppy petting God fearing man who has a large family including a beautiful granddaughter he enjoys being with.
You are an blood thirsty heartless monster who prays for more dead kids. You’re right. We are nowhere near similar.