Looks like a war is looming in Israel

jellyrug said:
I think the key here is that Iran and their proxy Hamas have no empathy whatsoever for the Palestinians. They are using them as martyrs in an attempt to turn the world against Israel. Unfortunately they seem to be succeeding somewhat at that.
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Hi. No normal person likes to see innosent people being killed. But some of the worker that worked in Israel spyed for hamas. Some of the innosent palestinians held the people they took in there homes. Did they do because they were made to or yheh wanted to I do not know.
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Even this war on Hamas seems to be fading in the media as well.....at one point we almost had a blow by blow front seat now there are very few if any reports on what is going on....

Hamas isn't wiped out yet, the Houthis and Hezbollah are still rattling sabers and vowing to stand beside their Hamas brothers.....
 
Bumblebee said:
Even this war on Hamas seems to be fading in the media as well.....at one point we almost had a blow by blow front seat now there are very few if any reports on what is going on....

Hamas isn't wiped out yet, the Houthis and Hezbollah are still rattling sabers and vowing to stand beside their Hamas brothers.....
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I still see a lot of footage on AU TV news . Latest was footage of Israeli vehicle driving around with injured Palestinian combatant strapped to the bonnet .
 
ROADTOAD1340 said:
Yes , there is also a lot of talk of the war spilling over into Lebenon on AU tv .
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Again Iran, with its proxies creating turmoil in the region.

Should Trump get back in office, it will be interesting to see how he handles this. Apparently Iran was ready to make a deal close to the end of his term, as they were in dire straights as a result of tough sanctions, now no longer enforced by the new Administration.

Soleimani was taken out under Trump's term, today we have a way more emboldened Iran. It will take time to hurt them with sanctions now, perhaps they will be hurt a different way this time?
 
I was reading how supply airdrops conducted by the US were deemed offensive and degrading by outsiders looking in.

Nobody batted an eye when these were being done in West Berlin post WW2....those people certainly seemed grateful....
 
.....and to all these pro-Hamas protesters taking over campuses........the government needs to cut power to the area and set up cell jammers....these people would soon go home.....

.......and I'd identify each and every one of them and revoke any degree they had as well......or at least tell them this is the consequence of civil disobedience.
 
Bumblebee said:
.....and to all these pro-Hamas protesters taking over campuses........the government needs to cut power to the area and set up cell jammers....these people would soon go home.....

.......and I'd identify each and every one of them and revoke any degree they had as well......or at least tell them this is the consequence of civil disobedience.
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My previous house was just sold a second time, this time to the owner of a few dealerships around here. Guy contacted me, as I designed the home and had it built, so we went for dinner together.

They just made an offer to a new General Manager for one of their Ford dealerships, then went to his social media page and picked up some anti semitic materials. They withdrew the offer. He wants to know if I can help him find a new candidate, as I am doing some work on the side for a few dealers at the moment.
 
Bumblebee said:
.....and to all these pro-Hamas protesters taking over campuses........the government needs to cut power to the area and set up cell jammers....these people would soon go home.....

.......and I'd identify each and every one of them and revoke any degree they had as well......or at least tell them this is the consequence of civil disobedience.
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Being pro Hamas and anti human slaughtering is not the same thing. It’s a distinction that’s being ignored a lot lately.
 
Red05 said:
Being pro Hamas and anti human slaughtering is not the same thing. It’s a distinction that’s being ignored a lot lately.
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And being antisemite and pro-Hamas is a blurred distinction as well.

I have said what the Palestinian people need to do but they have yet to do it as many of them have been indoctrinated into the Hamas ideology....

You and I aren't there nor are we involved in operations planning, all we can do is rely on the reports of mostly Hamas as to what is really going on.......I have read civilian deaths are far lower than what is being reported.......and that report is based on both generating hate towards Israel and garnering support for Hamas.....


.............and it's working....
 
Red05 said:
Being pro Hamas and anti human slaughtering is not the same thing. It’s a distinction that’s being ignored a lot lately.
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Sadly that is what happens when the enemy has a strategy which makes it impossible to identify the difference between soldier and civilian.

Without huge civilian sacrifice in the Middle East, wars will continue forever and the resulting sacrifice will remain infinite.
 
I would add that fighting in these conditions is not an easy thing to do at all....especially when the enemy blends into the civilian population and uses civilian infrastructure to launch strikes and harbor fighters...

I've fought in a few similar environments where we've used surgical insertions and even still were faced with very hard decisions as to how we would engage the enemy as they were invisible within the civilian populace.....we had to finally engage almost blindly as the enemy was decimating troops on the ground who faced the same problem trying to identify targets....

And it doesn't help when the civilian populace supports and harbors the enemy.

Israel is doing well by not just wiping out everything they see....the sad part is they are losing troops as a result of their hesitation to do this.
 
Bumblebee said:
There are far more serious atrocities being carried out in other Arab nations.....hundreds of thousands of people are being ethnic cleansed and not a word is mentioned.....
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See the link below. It is not really in the mainstream news, because it does not fall within Iran's strategic propaganda effort towards turning the world against Israel.

news.sky.com

Sudan violence: The horrifying statistics behind the brutal conflict - and still the death toll is unknown

As the ticker of horrifying statistics from Sudan steadily updates, there is one measure of brutality that remains as elusive as the loss it quantifies - the death toll.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
 
jellyrug said:
See the link below. It is not really in the mainstream news, because it does not fall within Iran's strategic propaganda effort towards turning the world against Israel.

news.sky.com

Sudan violence: The horrifying statistics behind the brutal conflict - and still the death toll is unknown

As the ticker of horrifying statistics from Sudan steadily updates, there is one measure of brutality that remains as elusive as the loss it quantifies - the death toll.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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That's one of many such atrocities being carried out in the world going unnoticed
 
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