Looks like a war is looming in Israel

Have you ever been in the middle east?

It's a different world there, not all Muslims are extremists or terrorists......there are millions upon millions of them who are just like us, trying to live life and feed their families.......

Many of them can't read or write nor do they speak Arabic of which the Koran is written. This makes it easier for extremist Imams to sway the masses into the ideology they are seeking....

.....and lots of these people are poor and are offered the world on a platter by these extremist groups either that or are coerced and/or threatened so they comply....

It's a complicated place and not all cut and dry as it appears on the outside....
It's complicated for the same kind of reasons we have for other religious groups. It separates people based on what they believe whether that specific religions are true in its teachings or not. Religions around the world are dying a slow death because people have woken up the fact that they don't need a middleman to connect with God ( as it is called ) and or the Holy Spirit.

Of course all Muslims are not extremist... the radicals are ruining a peaceful life for the majority.
 
So, you go ahead, it is a free country, as long as you don’t expect me to join the derangement club.
I struggle quite a bit as I agree the office of President should come with respect from all of us. It is that very reverence I have for the office that implores me to hope he never fills it again. I watched his inauguration as I do all of them, and had high hopes he would surprise me and be respectful with some amount of humility. He underwhelmed me in that regard, to put it kindly. I was very quiet during those 4 years, and now I’ll yell from the rooftops, let’s not do that again.
 
“The only defamation of character by Trump is Trump himself as humor”. Yes absolutely I believe he is his own worst enemy, but I don’t find it humorous in the least. I don’t believe that anyone watching the Trump shitshow, and commenting on it, somehow adds to it by being disgusted. I could write a book on him but it feels like it would be time of my life wasted.
I knew you didn’t mean it like I knew Zerks didn’t think I molest kids.
You never know who the sexual predators are until they reveal themselves by getting caught or reported. I prefer child rapist be punished with death before they are released and able to get the opportunity to hurt an innocent child again. Why do you think that group ranks at the lowest status level a prisoner can be inside a prison?
 
You never know who the sexual predators are until they reveal themselves by getting caught or reported. I prefer child rapist be punished with death before they are released and able to get the opportunity to hurt an innocent child again. Why do you think that group ranks at the lowest status level a prisoner can be inside a prison?
I agree 100% with your assessment of child molesters and agree they can hide in society. Maybe you were drunk or angry, but you once asked me if I belonged to a group of them. Think that didn't leave a memory for me? Regardless, you had absolutely no reason to ask, which, whether you meant it or not, was a BS implication.
 
It's complicated for the same kind of reasons we have for other religious groups. It separates people based on what they believe whether that specific religions are true in its teachings or not. Religions around the world are dying a slow death because people have woken up the fact that they don't need a middleman to connect with God ( as it is called ) and or the Holy Spirit.

Of course all Muslims are not extremist... the radicals are ruining a peaceful life for the majority.
It goes beyond religion.....it delves into culture and tradition of which many groups are rigid in following them....

People of the Islamic faith follow their faith in many different ways...some are very (very) devout and are what is referred to as extremists whereas others are pretty much like the average Christian....kid of sort of follows their religious teachings but aren't devout....

I've been in probably more Islamic based countries than Christian based it seems and I have witnessed a lot of what I say first hand....

We had very in depth cultural awareness lectures before each and every deployment...we even had former Taliban members brief us so we could understand them better.....

I found Theology to be interesting...
 
I struggle quite a bit as I agree the office of President should come with respect from all of us. It is that very reverence I have for the office that implores me to hope he never fills it again. I watched his inauguration as I do all of them, and had high hopes he would surprise me and be respectful with some amount of humility. He underwhelmed me in that regard, to put it kindly. I was very quiet during those 4 years, and now I’ll yell from the rooftops, let’s not do that again.
I would prefer many other candidates in that position. We have to accept though, that a great number of our fellow citizens voted him into being the nominee. They obviously think differently to what we do. We could do what Hillary does and call all Trump supporters “deplorable”. Unfortunately then it becomes back to diminishing the characters of a great number of Americans.
 
I would prefer many other candidates in that position. We have to accept though, that a great number of our fellow citizens voted him into being the nominee. They obviously think differently to what we do. We could do what Hillary does and call all Trump supporters “deplorable”. Unfortunately then it becomes back to diminishing the characters of a great number of Americans.
I have no qualms with any of that. One of my best friends is a Trump supporter and on the character horizon, I find her on the opposite end of deplorable.
 
Last edited:
It goes beyond religion.....it delves into culture and tradition of which many groups are rigid in following them.
Well see, here is the problem....................

Looking across the world both in the east and the west, it would seem that middle eastern Islamic followers are the issue here.

Wiether they are in the middle east, in the UK, other parts of Europe, Canada, or the US. This specific type of Islam cannot get along with or accept western values, culture or tradition. Their Islamic brothers in the east won't even take them as refugees, knowing exactly what they are like.

So they are forced over to the western world. Instead of assimilating into western culture, they choose to resist, isolate and demand those around them appease them and their beliefs without question.

As soon as ANYONE dares to question these demands, they get aggressive, violent and the once region of peace returns to its barbaric roots.

We see the violent Islamic uprising across the western world, as they demand their special treatment here, whereas such treatment is NOT given to westerners in their home country.

These Islamic followers seem to dismiss western laws, want to impose their own and see violence as they way to get what they want. They disregard the host country in all aspects, except those monthly support cheques that keep coming in.

As said before, I don't believe that all Islamic followers are bad, but sadly the good ones refuse the expose the bad ones and choose to remain silent.........thus they are painted with the same brush. The same brush they paint all westerners with, but cry fowl when used against them.

Clearly Islam and the west CANNOT live together, thus must remain seperate.............it's time Islam and the next Ottoman empire is returned to the east once and for all and kept there at all cost.

Listening and watching what has happened to western countries over the last 50 years, trust me.

Either you put the Islamic genie back in its bottle and ship it back east now to be kept there at all cost...............or you better start practicing your daily prayers " All hail Allah, and death to the infidels", if you want to continue breathing.

Trust me, they will show you no mercy when they come for you.

Cameron
 
These Islamic followers seem to dismiss western laws, want to impose their own and see violence as they way to get what they want. They disregard the host country in all aspects, except those monthly support cheques that keep coming in.

As said before, I don't believe that all Islamic followers are bad, but sadly the good ones refuse the expose the bad ones and choose to remain silent.........thus they are painted with the same brush. The same brush they paint all westerners with, but cry fowl when used against them.

Clearly Islam and the west CANNOT live together, thus must remain seperate.............it's time Islam and the next Ottoman empire is returned to the east once and for all and kept there at all cost.

Listening and watching what has happened to western countries over the last 50 years, trust me.

Either you put the Islamic genie back in its bottle and ship it back east now to be kept there at all cost...............or you better start practicing your daily prayers " All hail Allah, and death to the infidels", if you want to continue breathing.

Trust me, they will show you no mercy when they come for you.
You lost me with Islamic followers not abiding by western laws. Where do you live? That is not the case at all. Islamic people are like everyone else, good and bad.
If you really believe what you wrote, you need counseling.
 
Well see, here is the problem....................

Looking across the world both in the east and the west, it would seem that middle eastern Islamic followers are the issue here.

Wiether they are in the middle east, in the UK, other parts of Europe, Canada, or the US. This specific type of Islam cannot get along with or accept western values, culture or tradition. Their Islamic brothers in the east won't even take them as refugees, knowing exactly what they are like.

So they are forced over to the western world. Instead of assimilating into western culture, they choose to resist, isolate and demand those around them appease them and their beliefs without question.

As soon as ANYONE dares to question these demands, they get aggressive, violent and the once region of peace returns to its barbaric roots.

We see the violent Islamic uprising across the western world, as they demand their special treatment here, whereas such treatment is NOT given to westerners in their home country.

These Islamic followers seem to dismiss western laws, want to impose their own and see violence as they way to get what they want. They disregard the host country in all aspects, except those monthly support cheques that keep coming in.

As said before, I don't believe that all Islamic followers are bad, but sadly the good ones refuse the expose the bad ones and choose to remain silent.........thus they are painted with the same brush. The same brush they paint all westerners with, but cry fowl when used against them.

Clearly Islam and the west CANNOT live together, thus must remain seperate.............it's time Islam and the next Ottoman empire is returned to the east once and for all and kept there at all cost.

Listening and watching what has happened to western countries over the last 50 years, trust me.

Either you put the Islamic genie back in its bottle and ship it back east now to be kept there at all cost...............or you better start practicing your daily prayers " All hail Allah, and death to the infidels", if you want to continue breathing.

Trust me, they will show you no mercy when they come for you.

Cameron
This sets true for many different groups of people regardless of religion......you live near Toronto so see how different cultural groups isolate themselves.....it's not based on religion.

I've spent quite a bit of time amongst Islamic folk, I've fought extremists and have spoke to ones we have taken captive.....many of which were very misguided, some were steadfast in their extremist ideology and therefore not bending at all.

I disagree and feel Christians and Muslims can and have lived together in peace....the days of the Holy wars are long past...if you visit the United Emirates or Dubai or Saudi, or other such places, they treat westerners very well...

Even if you go to Iraq, Syria and even Afghanistan when the Taliban were ousted, the general populace were very kind and treated westerners with respect....

However as you have eluded to, there are bad apples in the barrel the same as there are bad apples in the Christian faith....as well as Christian extremists.
 
Well see, here is the problem....................

Looking across the world both in the east and the west, it would seem that middle eastern Islamic followers are the issue here.

Wiether they are in the middle east, in the UK, other parts of Europe, Canada, or the US. This specific type of Islam cannot get along with or accept western values, culture or tradition. Their Islamic brothers in the east won't even take them as refugees, knowing exactly what they are like.

So they are forced over to the western world. Instead of assimilating into western culture, they choose to resist, isolate and demand those around them appease them and their beliefs without question.

As soon as ANYONE dares to question these demands, they get aggressive, violent and the once region of peace returns to its barbaric roots.

We see the violent Islamic uprising across the western world, as they demand their special treatment here, whereas such treatment is NOT given to westerners in their home country.

These Islamic followers seem to dismiss western laws, want to impose their own and see violence as they way to get what they want. They disregard the host country in all aspects, except those monthly support cheques that keep coming in.

As said before, I don't believe that all Islamic followers are bad, but sadly the good ones refuse the expose the bad ones and choose to remain silent.........thus they are painted with the same brush. The same brush they paint all westerners with, but cry fowl when used against them.

Clearly Islam and the west CANNOT live together, thus must remain seperate.............it's time Islam and the next Ottoman empire is returned to the east once and for all and kept there at all cost.

Listening and watching what has happened to western countries over the last 50 years, trust me.

Either you put the Islamic genie back in its bottle and ship it back east now to be kept there at all cost...............or you better start practicing your daily prayers " All hail Allah, and death to the infidels", if you want to continue breathing.

Trust me, they will show you no mercy when they come for you.

Cameron
Like all religions, Islam in many cases is used to manipulate people. With Islam unfortunately into Jihad.

You get this everywhere, in many cases Christian religions are manipulated for acquiring wealth. Or a cult of some sort.

You appear to discriminate against everyone though who follow Islam?
 
Wow, the amount of sympathizers here is astounding.

Here in Canada we see Islamic followers side stepping laws as soon as they pull out the race card. The PC police immediately back down and basically walk away for fear of being labeled "racist" or god forbid someone files a human right complaint regardless if its false or not. It wouldn't look good in the public eye.

We have Palestinian protests calling for the genocide of Jews right inside Jewish Neighborhoods and right in front of a Jewish seniors house. Police stand around watching and arresting ANYONE who tries to even question what their doing. If anyone dares reverse the roles and dares to call for genocide of Islam they are immediately arrested and charged with a hate crime.

We have had dozens of Christian churches and synagogues vandalized and burnt to the ground this year alone and our PM calls it "understandable"..........but when ONE mosque is vandalized it's national news and the PM calls for an end to Islamophobia.

Then you have the city of Brampton who's violent crime rates and antisemitic hate crime stats aren't even published as they are off the charts compared to the national stats, and of course the PC police don't publish it for fear of it enforcing Islamophobia feelings in Canada.

In Canada we live in a 2 tier Justice system.........as soon as the race card comes out it's a get out of jail free card. Meanwhile only white people are charged with hate crimes for even questioning what Islam is doing to Canada.

Many in Canada don't see this, but if your in Southern Ontario your right in the epicenter of it. To the point that even hardened liberals are reaching their limits on patience.

If anyone thinks this is OK or even remotely acceptable, I suggest come on down and witness it yourself. I know people who have moved out east not 8 years ago who refuse to come back to the poop hole they call Southern Ontario.

Cameron
 
Last edited:
Tough neighborhood. You ever read outside of X? There are Islamic people all over the world. Search and sure you’ll find haters. Name me one segment of society that doesn’t have those. You can also search and much more readily find kind, caring people. In all walks. Feels like you’re one of the haters right now.
 
Tough neighborhood. You ever read outside of X? There are Islamic people all over the world. Search and sure you’ll find haters. Name me one segment of society that doesn’t have those. You can also search and much more readily find kind, caring people. In all walks.
I'm reading all sorts of news, sadly mainstream Canadian media is all but crickets on this stuff as it's long baught by the liberal party and this doesn't go with their current "islam good" "Christian bad" agenda. X was simply thr easiest to link from at the time.

Well see, this is where the problem is.

I know not all Islamic followers are bad, but the good ones don't expose the bad ones........instead the remain silent and this only enables and emboldened the radicals.

Christians and other religions have been under a microscope in Canada for decades. We have learned to open our doors and expose the bad ones for who they are as to not taint the good ones with the same brush.

What is so wrong about asking questions or daring to criticize Islam when the pray daily for the death of the infidels..........or force women to dress like the 6th century and cover all but their eyes in a modern world. Covering your face in the western culture is a huge security issue, and needing to know or identify someone quickly visually is necessary in certain situations.

Believe me, I am trying hard not to be a hater here, but when you see this 2 tier Justice system continue and you watch your countries natural passive, relaxed, polite and overall trustworthiness of others be exploited and used against us daily to force their demands down our throats it gets very tiring very quickly.

I know even left-wing voters in Ontario are on their last nerves these days and have had enough. This is NOT the Canada we had 10 years ago..........and this new look is NOT an improvement on the old either.

My fear is that one incident will swing the country violently to the hard right.............And Ontario at least will be in open revolt. Good luck putting that fire out.

Canadians tend to have a long fuse..........but once it's lit, good luck to you if you stand in their way.

Just my 2 cents from the ground level.
Cameron
 
I'm reading all sorts of news, sadly mainstream Canadian media is all but crickets on this stuff as it's long baught by the liberal party and this doesn't go with their current "islam good" "Christian bad" agenda. X was simply thr easiest to link from at the time.

Well see, this is where the problem is.

I know not all Islamic followers are bad, but the good ones don't expose the bad ones........instead the remain silent and this only enables and emboldened the radicals.

Christians and other religions have been under a microscope in Canada for decades. We have learned to open our doors and expose the bad ones for who they are as to not taint the good ones with the same brush.

What is so wrong about asking questions or daring to criticize Islam when the pray daily for the death of the infidels..........or force women to dress like the 6th century and cover all but their eyes in a modern world. Covering your face in the western culture is a huge security issue, and needing to know or identify someone quickly visually is necessary in certain situations.

Believe me, I am trying hard not to be a hater here, but when you see this 2 tier Justice system continue and you watch your countries natural passive, relaxed, polite and overall trustworthiness of others be exploited and used against us daily to force their demands down our throats it gets very tiring very quickly.

I know even left-wing voters in Ontario are on their last nerves these days and have had enough. This is NOT the Canada we had 10 years ago..........and this new look is NOT an improvement on the old either.

My fear is that one incident will swing the country violently to the hard right.............And Ontario at least will be in open revolt. Good luck putting that fire out.

Canadians tend to have a long fuse..........but once it's lit, good luck to you if you stand in their way.

Just my 2 cents from the ground level.
Cameron
Change is coming that's for sure.......

Trudeau (through his immigration policy) has overwhelmed almost everything in Canada from health care to housing both of which are on the verge of collapsing as a result.

The train has left the station and is gathering speed....as we know a speeding train isn't easy to stop or even to slow down....the effects of his open immigration policy will be felt for generations. And people of the Muslim faith are only one of many varying immigrants who are brought to Canada by the plane load with more to come....there will be a huge influx of Lebanese people brought here shortly.

However, this is prevalent in all western countries.......

I've been to mosques in Canada and was treated very well...I respected their customs and they immediately noticed this....I attended the festival of Eid and had a great time.....this festival was open to all faiths although there were few Christians and other faiths there but they were welcomed. For the most part the Muslim faith is peaceful...it's the extremists who give it a black eye....

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I do hear you....if one were to go to Istanbul and decide to open up a Catholic church, you'd be sent packing in record time.

Most Islamic based countries see the west as weak and easily manipulated and as such human nature such as it is will monopolize on this fact.

While deployed into one such Islamic country one of my team mates mentioned that he was happy none of the extremists were hitting soft targets in Canada....we said they won't hit any there because most of their families live there generating money to send back here.
 
Again, the extremists may give Islam a black eye...........but it is the good ones that remain silent and enable and embolden the extremists to do what they do.

In the end, even the good ones are getting what they want and clearly they don't care HOW they get it.

This is the issue...........it is time Islamic followers take responsibility for their own extremists and either stop them or report them to police so they themselves don't get painted with the same brush.

Until this happens, they will all be lumped together...........and justifiably so.

I am tired of Islamic followers demanding tolerance for their intolerance in Canada. You either assimilate into western culture or your on the first plane back home where your intolerance can be tolerated

I've been to mosques in Canada and was treated very well...I respected their customs and they immediately noticed this
Exactly, you bent the knee to their intolerance and inability to acceptance all as they arrive. They noticed this, and noticed your easily controllable.

I see these same Islamic followers blocking streets in Toronto as they have prayer demonstrations on the public road way as a show of force and telling police and citizens that "your laws don't apply to us" and your police can do nothing.

In yet when Canadians blocked road ways during the freedom convoy, they were arrested, charged and bank accounts frozen within hours.

Do you see the disconnect here........those with a race card do as they please in Ontario, While old stock Canadians are treated with hostility from the start.

Cameron
 
Last edited:
Again, the extremists may give Islam a black eye...........but it is the good ones that remain silent and enable and embolden the extremists to do what they do.

In the end, even the good ones are getting what they want and clearly they don't care HOW they get it.

This is the issue...........it is time Islamic followers take responsibility for their own extremists and either stop them or report them to police so they themselves don't get painted with the same brush.

Until this happens, they will all be lumped together...........and justifiably so.

I am tired of Islamic followers demanding tolerance for their intolerance in Canada. You either assimilate into western culture or your on the first plane back home where your intolerance can be tolerated


Exactly, you bent the knee to their intolerance and inability to acceptance all as they arrive. They noticed this, and noticed your easily controllable.

I see these same Islamic followers blocking streets in Toronto as they have prayer demonstrations on the public road way as a show of force and telling police and citizens that "your laws don't apply to us" and your police can do nothing.

In yet when Canadians blocked road ways during the freedom convoy, they were arrested, charged and bank accounts frozen within hours.

Do you see the disconnect here........those with a race card do as they please in Ontario, While old stock Canadians are treated with hostility from the start.

Cameron
It's good that you are entitled to your opinion and better that you are allowed to express it.

I for one agree in part and disagree in part.......

I don't know your background or where you've been or what you've done...

If anyone has a good reason to despise people of Islam, I think I would qualify as I've fought extremists and have lost friends and colleagues in the war against terror......

But I have found tolerance and have worked hard to put those demons behind me....

The person in this video is not wrong....so that's the part where you and I agree...

 
Back
Top